Miller sucked and Miller was great
He was ok and not ok
He was spectacular and unspectacular
He was sharp and he was soft
He had above average and below average seasons

Robin Lehner is better and worse than Miller

enaK enaK enaK

Ryan Miller, in memorandum.

No f#cking sh!t homie!
Miller was on 2 very good Sabres teams, 2 decent ones, & some poor ones
Niemi was on the Hawks & the Sharks,
who were really good EVERY year

How many other better goalies did Niemi have better stats than?

Go check out the stats for all the Anaheim goalies the last 10-12 years
None of them were great, but they all have really good winning% too

Winning% is a team stat
U should know better
- jdfitz77

flip side to the coin

if Miller didn't allow 3 or more goals in over half his starts, the sabres would have been playing more games in the post season during the post briere-drury days


aside from the vezina year, he was just another random goalie in the 8-15 range year after year that got a lot of starts

flip side to the coin

if Miller didn't allow 3 or more goals in over half his starts, the sabres would have been playing more games in the post season during the post briere-drury days


aside from the vezina year, he was just another random goalie in the 8-15 range year after year that got a lot of starts
- homiedclown

Was Miller traded in 2014?

And the sole reason for it being decent was Miller's Vezina year.

.
- sbroads24

serious question


why can a goalie be so focused that year, and literally at an insane level, and so middle of the pack every other year

Was Miller traded in 2014?
- TheSabresTaco

yes

serious question


why can a goalie be so focused that year, and literally at an insane level, and so middle of the pack every other year
- homiedclown

His lazy eye stopped focusing?

yes
- homiedclown

poop that's like 3 years ago

His lazy eye stopped focusing?
- jochfr

some of the goalies hockey reference compares him to


burke
vokoun
nabokov
kolzig
joseph

and for you old timers
vachon

poop that's like 3 years ago
- TheSabresTaco

people saying we need Miller right now, are a half step behind those that suggest signing OJ to back up Shady in October

Gerbe saying he needs penis right now, are a half step behind those that suggest signing OJ to back up Shady in October
- homiedclown

Filling in for Indy, fixed.

Anyone who thinks this team is any different with Miller is high on (frank)ing kale. There's no analytics that can prove this team is better or worse without him if he was Lehner's age, today. And this team is worse with him at miller's actual age (frank) I got roped into this bullpoop discussion.

some of the goalies hockey reference compares him to


burke
vokoun
nabokov
kolzig
joseph

and for you old timers
vachon
- homiedclown

great another player that refuses to kill penalties
- homiedclown

Vanek hater ..
Another player that the Sabres wasted away never found him a true number one Center

Filling in for Indy, fixed.

Anyone who thinks this team is any different with Miller is high on (frank)ing kale. There's no analytics that can prove this team is better or worse without him if he was Lehner's age, today. And this team is worse with him at miller's actual age (frank) I got roped into this bullpoop discussion.
- TheSabresTaco

Stop being pretentious! Get off your high horse!

Vanek hater ..
Another player that the Sabres wasted away never found him a true number one Center
- gerbe75pts

Filling in for Indy, fixed.

Anyone who thinks this team is any different with Miller is high on (frank)ing kale. There's no analytics that can prove this team is better or worse without him if he was Lehner's age, today. And this team is worse with him at miller's actual age (frank) I got roped into this bullpoop discussion.
- TheSabresTaco

You fool!

Vanek hater ..
Another player that the Sabres wasted away never found him a true number one Center
- gerbe75pts

This argument is truly pointless.

Why are we bringing up players that were failures here?

Wasted or not, the last time this team had a relevant season was 2010.

Can we focus on the present and future, instead of dwelling on the past?

Vanek hater ..
Another player that the Sabres wasted away never found him a true unlimited supply of vodka
- gerbe75pts

Isles and De Haan settle for 1 year.

$3.3

This argument is truly pointless.

Why are we bringing up players that were failures here?

Wasted or not, the last time this team had a relevant season was 2010.

Can we focus on the present and future, instead of dwelling on the past?
- thatsapickle

lolno

lolno
- TheSabresTaco

It's all dumb.

And I laugh at the people that said he should kill penalties his job is to score lol

Let's keep our best player tired that's a smart idea

Vanek hater ..
Another player that the Sabres wasted away never found him a true number one Center
- gerbe75pts

2012-13 vanek on the sabres w/o a center
38 games 41 points


2013-14 vanek with tavares
47 games 44 points

(must be the system)
your move

And I laugh at the people that said he should kill penalties his job is to score lol

Let's keep our best player tired that's a smart idea
- gerbe75pts

short handed goals don't matter

2012-13 vanek on the sabres w/o a center
38 games 41 points


2013-14 vanek with tavares
47 games 44 points

(must be the system)
your move
- homiedclown

Roy and Connolly were two of the top 20 centers in the league.