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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 6:21 PM ET
some of the goalies hockey reference compares him to


burke
vokoun
nabokov
kolzig
joseph

and for you old timers
vachon

- homiedclown


That sounds about right. Not sure I agree with Sean Burke though he only had like 2 good seasons.

What separates Miller is that he was "good" for a very long time in a league where goalies, like Burke and Bryzgalov, come out of nowhere, are good, maybe even great for a year or 2 and then drop off the face of the Earth. Miller has been Steady Eddie for the last 12 years including those great years.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:23 PM ET
Lol just getting some lunch with my buddy and this old dude cut us and he said That's what you get for talking lol wtf

I should give him 30$ for making my day lol
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 6:33 PM ET
Lol just getting some lunch with my buddy and this old dude cut us and he said That's what you get for talking lol wtf

I should give him 30$ for making my day lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Who gets "lunch" at 3:30?
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Aug 2 @ 6:36 PM ET
Ahhhh i see what you mean..and yes i agree...if House lets jack do his thing there are going to be alot of canadian pundits suddenly rememebering to mention him along with the golden boys mcdaivd and matthews
- feetontheair22


I always mention him before those two
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 6:44 PM ET
Who gets "lunch" at 3:30?
- Wetbandit1

old people and they call it dinner..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:53 PM ET
Who gets "lunch" at 3:30?
- Wetbandit1


Me lol .. maybe you can call it lunner
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
old people and they call it dinner..
- IndianaSabresFan

Lol that's true my grandma eats dinner at 4:30 everyday lol
Then stays up to watch Judge Judy and then bed lol

22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Aug 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
Me lol .. maybe you can call it lunner
- gerbe75pts


It's Lupper Lunch/Supper
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
How is Marcus foligno a loss ? Are people being serious
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 6:56 PM ET
It's Lupper Lunch/Supper
- 22sabresQ


It could be both ..

I don't think I've heard supper in like the longest time lol
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
How is Marcus foligno a loss ? Are people being serious
- gerbe75pts

Overpaid 4th liner
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 2 @ 7:15 PM ET
Overpaid 4th liner
- chilliard77


He was better than that. I know he didn't deserve top6 minutes, but think he's a competent 3rd line player. I don't buy him being a big loss, but he does toss the body around a lot, could drop the gloves and could pop in a few each year. Am I worried he'll be missed, no. Do I think he is a decent player, yes.

AKA he's replaceable, but isn't dime a dozen if that's fair.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:24 PM ET
Lol just getting some lunch with my buddy and this old dude cut us and he said That's what you get for talking lol wtf

I should give him 30$ for making my day lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 2 @ 7:29 PM ET

- Der Kaiser


I tried giving him a bro hug he called us Surfer Fruit Loops
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 7:30 PM ET
so I posted this before the previous thread broke


what is the odds, that okposo or reinhart get flipped to lw


this puts a vet, pommer on the second line


okposo-eichel-reinhart
kane-ror-pommer


or
kane-eichel-okposo
reinhart-ror-pommer


if a kid shines in rochester they can grab the 3rd line spot, otherwise bottom 6


pouliot-larsson-girgens
moulson-e-rod/josefson-e-rod/josefson
deslauriers

- homiedclown


Depends on Phil the Thrill's coaching philosophy. If he doesn't want players on their off-wing, I would say slim to none. If he doesn't care I would still probably say pretty low.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
"sauve 13-9 record as a sabre
edwards 13-18 record as a sabre
barrasso 3-8 record as a sabre
hasek 37-30 record as a sabre

I honestly did not expect sauve to have the best winning % from this list before I looked it up
"

-homie



Again...
it's bc winning % is a TEAM stat
Not an individual on

Come on man
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 7:35 PM ET
that pre lockout team was brutal

nothing like hearing robie on the post game crying about goaltending when the team lost 4-1 night after night and biron makes 40 plus saves a game


I really lost a lot of respect for Mike during that season

- homiedclown



He was brutal for a few years there. Even on Hockey Hotline and his ever changing hair piece. I don't know if Harry Neale's eternal optimism did something to him, but he turned it around there at the end.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:36 PM ET
Depends on Phil the Thrill's coaching philosophy. If he doesn't want players on their off-wing, I would say slim to none. If he doesn't care I would still probably say pretty low.
- Wetbandit1




Okposo has played LW with the Islanders
I'd guess it wouldn't be a big deal for him to switch,
unless he's uncomfortable on that side
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:36 PM ET
He was brutal for a few years there. Even on Hockey Hotline and his ever changing hair piece. I don't know if Harry Neale's eternal optimism did something to him, but he turned it around there at the end.
- Wetbandit1


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
Pre-Lockout when no one scored goals? Someone needs to get a hold of Sakic, Iginla, Jagr, Lemeuix, Kovalchuk, Bure, Hejduk, Nash, Heatley, Brett Hull, Glen Murray, Todd Betuzzi, Marion Hossa and the literally dozens of other guys who regularly scored 40+ goals before the lockout.

FFS, Marcus Naslund was pushing 50 goals before the first lockout of the 2000's.

- BeadyEyedDouche


It went from 2.57 GPG in 03-04 to 3.08 GPG in 05-06. That's a massive difference.

And we're back down to 2.77 now. Which is actually up over the past few years at 2.71 and 2.73. But is still a far cry from the early 90's when those guys played at 3.6 ish it wasn't until 97 where it went into nosedive clutch and grab.

The first time Biron played more than 6 games in a season was 99-00 when the average GPG was lower than last year at 2.75 and fell off a cliff down to 2.57 in 03-04. So yeah, he played in an era where no one could score.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
Okposo has played LW with the Islanders
I'd guess it wouldn't be a big deal for him to switch,
unless he's uncomfortable on that side

- jdfitz77


That's fine, but he did that on the Islanders. With a different coach. Not every coach is the same. Adam Oates tried to ruin Ovechkin by making him play RW because he didn't want anyone playing their off-wing.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:51 PM ET
Girgs will be gone in the next 18 imo. There's no spot for him going forward as a center if either Erod or Middlestadt make the team full time next year. Larsson is the superior FO and PK guy for that 3rd line role. Maybe they'll try to pump girgs value this year, but I don't expect anything out of him. If he hit 30 points, that would surprise me
- jcragcrumple




"We will absolutely not trade Girgensons"
"He's part of our core for sure"
"Potential Captain"

Just some of the quotes I got blasted with after we drafted Girgs & I suggested we should use him as a trade piece bc he'll never be a 20goal scorer in the NHL


All that said...
he's a decent bottom 6 player
At least until he gets passed by some of the youngsters coming up

My guess is he gets something like 1.35mil per season for 2 years


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
That's fine, but he did that on the Islanders. With a different coach. Not every coach is the same. Adam Oates tried to ruin Ovechkin by making him play RW because he didn't want anyone playing their off-wing.
- Wetbandit1



True...
OV wasn't comfortable at RW
And I'm not sure how comfortable or not Okposo would be switching
I'm just assuming it could be a possibility

Besides all that... is it even necessary?
Does Pominville need to be in the top6 over Pouliot or one a youngster?
Idk how much of a dropoff there'd be
And even if there was, Pommer on the 3rd line would just give us more potential scoring depth
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 2 @ 8:16 PM ET
"We will absolutely not trade Girgensons"
"He's part of our core for sure"
"Potential Captain"

Just some of the quotes I got blasted with after we drafted Girgs & I suggested we should use him as a trade piece bc he'll never be a 20goal scorer in the NHL


All that said...
he's a decent bottom 6 player
At least until he gets passed by some of the youngsters coming up

My guess is he gets something like 1.35mil per season for 2 years

- jdfitz77



Lotta samolians for a guy who skates like this:

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 2 @ 8:28 PM ET
Lotta samolians for a guy who skates like this:


- Der Kaiser




Hahaha
It's a slight raise over what he's making & a little less than Larsson
Pretty sure Girgs will get something in the 1.35per neighborhood
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