My two boys are in their teens 42teen and 38 teen my daughter is 36 teen
- VANTEL

Respect

Girl 6. A WPG jets fan.
- manvanfan

Her mom I guess

Respect
- 21peter

The little brats eventually turn out to be good

You are over the hump now . You can coast a little more now. .First 5 years are the worst and the best.

The little brats eventually turn out to be good

You are over the hump now . You can coast a little more now. .First 5 years are the worst and the best.
- VANTEL

Tell me bout it. They are 13 and 19. Both are bad seeds - jk

In their last major conflict, Russia got their asses handed to them by a bunch of peasants who lived in caves. Bombing Syrians doesn't count.

China has money and troop numbers but when was the last time they were in a major conflict, Korea? Americans, Russians, English, and to some extent the French have been studying the art and management of war for a very, very long time. And at time they still lose. China is totally unproven and when it comes down to managing a long, sustained conflict my bet is that China collapses like a house of cards.
- bloatedmosquito

The same people kicking America's ass in their longest war ever... the worlds only super power. So I guess that is neither here nor there...

When was the last time America won a war anyways? Being the only super power,,, you think that would mean something?

well after making it through the last 17 pages my opinion hasn't changed , the CFL got it right getting rid of a challeng a game per team , the Canucks are going to surprise and compete for the wildcard, Trump sucks and Putin is the richest man in the world. Virtanen is gonna rock it this year !!! and Sutter for RNH in a heartbeat

well after making it through the last 17 pages my opinion hasn't changed , the CFL got it right getting rid of a challeng a game per team , the Canucks are going to surprise and compete for the wildcard, Trump sucks and Putin is the richest man in the world. Virtanen is gonna rock it this year !!! and Sutter for RNH in a heartbeat
- onesmallleap

Slightly early for hope but I like your spirit.

The little brats eventually turn out to be good

You are over the hump now . You can coast a little more now. .First 5 years are the worst and the best.
- VANTEL

That's correct best and worst.


LMAO 10-2 bottom of the 4th for the Astros.

That's correct best and worst.


LMAO 10-2 bottom of the 4th for the Astros.
- manvanfan

I don't watch them at all

well after making it through the last 17 pages my opinion hasn't changed , the CFL got it right getting rid of a challeng a game per team , the Canucks are going to surprise and compete for the wildcard, Trump sucks and Putin is the richest man in the world. Virtanen is gonna rock it this year !!! and Sutter for RNH in a heartbeat
- onesmallleap

Unless this team adapts a new style RNH wouldn't matter

Slightly early for hope but I like your spirit.
- manvanfan

On that theme let's turn to 2018 draft. Wherever Canucks pick we can reasonably say it's going to be high. Don't want to get into the BPA debate because it's so subjective among top picks.

Now stock piling talent is great for the rebuild but dragging it out could lead to redoing it. Thus filling holes on positions to balance out your top picks is key. Plus development of the players to let you know what you need next.

For example OJ as LD is he top pairing or top 4? Do you take another top LD or hold out for a RD next pick? If top RD not available then is a scoring forward better? Plus top 1C we have Bo coming on but is high skilled EP it or better as a top versatile forward?

Considering above who is the early choice on value as best 1st round pick for Canucks in 2018?

With this current list of players I would like

Granlund Bo Gagner
Daniel Hank Loui
Sven Sutter Boeser
Jv Burmistrov Dorsett

Boucher Rodin

Edler Tanev
Hutton Stecher
MDZ Gudbrandson

Weircoch

With this current list of players I would like

Granlund Bo Gagner
Daniel Hank Loui
Sven Sutter Boeser
Jv Burmistrov Dorsett

Boucher Rodin

Edler Tanev
Hutton Stecher
MDZ Gudbrandson

Weircoch
- VANTEL

With the amount of experimenting TG is bound to do this look would probably be seen. Though I'd say OJ likely earns a 9 game look.

With this current list of players I would like

Granlund Bo Gagner
Daniel Hank Loui
Sven Sutter Boeser
Jv Burmistrov Dorsett

Boucher Rodin

Edler Tanev
Hutton Stecher
MDZ Gudbrandson

Weircoch
- VANTEL

Why have Sven and Boeser play with Van's shutdown center? You will be limiting their offence.

I don't watch them at all
- VANTEL

It's 15-7 for houston now.

On that theme let's turn to 2018 draft. Wherever Canucks pick we can reasonably say it's going to be high. Don't want to get into the BPA debate because it's so subjective among top picks.

Now stock piling talent is great for the rebuild but dragging it out could lead to redoing it. Thus filling holes on positions to balance out your top picks is key. Plus development of the players to let you know what you need next.

For example OJ as LD is he top pairing or top 4? Do you take another top LD or hold out for a RD next pick? If top RD not available then is a scoring forward better? Plus top 1C we have Bo coming on but is high skilled EP it or better as a top versatile forward?

Considering above who is the early choice on value as best pick for Canucks in 2018?
- Nuck4U

I had a bit of trouble trying to figure out what you were trying to convey.

Van isn't stacked with enough young NHL talent that would allow them not to draft the BPA.

Drafting never ever ends. The theme may change from year to year. As JB said "speed and skill" for this year.

Balance out holes by making trades.

I don't know where Van will be drafting next year. Van could use any of the top projected picks for next season.

I had a bit of trouble trying to figure out what you were trying to convey.

Van isn't stacked with enough young NHL talent that would allow them not to draft the BPA.

Drafting never ever ends. The theme may change from year to year. As JB said "speed and skill" for this year.

Balance out holes by making trades.

I don't know where Van will be drafting next year. Van could use any of the top projected picks for next season.
- manvanfan

Yeah I was going against convention and trying to stray out of the BPA thinking. While Canucks can use anyone with talent I was just trying to ponder a hypothetical. Like who would you pick for Canucks, not rating in general, as having the best value impact given who is in the system/roster now.

For example I could go with Svechnikov given scoring is top need and Canucks have more depth at LD. Though if Dahlin was a RD I would take him. That kind of speculation.

I had a bit of trouble trying to figure out what you were trying to convey.

Van isn't stacked with enough young NHL talent that would allow them not to draft the BPA.

Drafting never ever ends. The theme may change from year to year. As JB said "speed and skill" for this year.

Balance out holes by making trades.

I don't know where Van will be drafting next year. Van could use any of the top projected picks for next season.
- manvanfan

Personally, I'd keep picking BPA natural centers 1st round and D later. You can always convert a C to a winger or trade them for other parts. I'd horde any and all D and only part with one reluctantly. You need 10 NHL D if you want to win a Cup and the idea should always be "Next Man Up". I love Horvat, but if we can get a C that's as skilled as, or better than EP, then I'd be open to trading Horvat and try and get as much as possible for him, because as people keep trying to say, he'd never accept being a 3rd line center on a championship team.

Yeah I was going against convention and trying to stray out of the BPA thinking. While Canucks can use anyone with talent I was just trying to ponder a hypothetical. Like who would you pick for Canucks, not rating in general, as having the best value impact given who is in the system/roster now.

For example I could go with Svechnikov given scoring is top need and Canucks have more depth at LD. Though if Dahlin was a RD I would take him. That kind of speculation.
- Nuck4U

In that case, A stud D. Second a net front presence guy. I don't like plain jane scorers.

Personally, I'd keep picking BPA natural centers 1st round and D later. You can always convert a C to a winger or trade them for other parts. I'd horde any and all D and only part with one reluctantly. You need 10 NHL D if you want to win a Cup and the idea should always be "Next Man Up". I love Horvat, but if we can get a C that's as skilled as, or better than EP, then I'd be open to trading Horvat and try and get as much as possible for him, because as people keep trying to say, he'd never accept being a 3rd line center on a championship team.
- DariusKnight

You can trade anyone at anytime. LW for D. C for a D.

I think keeping Horvat even to play 3rd line. What's the difference between a 1st and 3rd line Center now a days? 2 shifts per game? 1:30? Plus if a center goes down then they have cover.

You can trade anyone at anytime. LW for D. C for a D.

I think keeping Horvat even to play 3rd line. What's the difference between a 1st and 3rd line Center now a days? 2 shifts per game? 1:30? Plus if a center goes down then they have cover.
- manvanfan

This is true, you need 4 good centers nowadays because the playoffs just destroy your players. And I think you're right, Pittsburg pretty much rotated Crosby, Malkin and Bonino pretty evenly with Crosby getting a little more TOI

This is true, you need 4 good centers nowadays because the playoffs just destroy your players. And I think you're right, Pittsburg pretty much rotated Crosby, Malkin and Bonino pretty evenly with Crosby getting a little more TOI
- DariusKnight

Looking at Pitts time on ice for their centers. All about 1:30 apart. Yet shifts were 24-22-23 per game.

Bo is probably more of a second line center in the end. You won't give up a Matthews, Crosby, Getzlaf type just because you have EP and Horvat though.

With the NHL now, you see the large jumps in points from season to season. Could get an elite player and all of a sudden take off.

In that case, A stud D. Second a net front presence guy.
- manvanfan

Okay. Besides early favorite best players Dahlin and Svechnikov here are my early top 1st rounders to follow for Canuck needs:

C: Valeno, Mcleod, Kotkaniemi. RD: Wilde, Bouchard, Merkley.

Who do you like and why?

Why have Sven and Boeser play with Van's shutdown center? You will be limiting their offence.
- manvanfan

Unfortunately 3 of top 6 roster spots get taken up by old Swedes. They need to wait till they are gone before they can play with players with an upside offensively

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