That's a good idea in theory
We don't know how quick Tyrod will pick it up
Or if he'll be successful in it

For example:
If he's not that accurate standing still,
Can he be accurate on the run?
I'm not saying for sure one way or the other,
but we don't know how it'll play out
- jdfitz77

A team that was 1 game below .500 in the last 2 years with pretty much the same players fired a coach because he sucked and his system sucked which held them back

They hired a coach who is better suited for the players how are they going to get worse?

This sounds pretty similar to what the Sabres did...

Do we expect the Sabres to be worse too?

I'm not catering every response to just one person in a conversation

You said they would be closer to 3 wins than 11 though
- Stripes77

I did
6 wins is closer to 3 than 11

6 is our over under
Usually that means +/- 2 wins...
unless something goes horribly wrong,
or everything goes amazingly well

****Cuts****

***prepares to paste****
- Der Kaiser

Who are all these "great" starters?

Sammie is always hurt, and if we aren't bringing him back after next season we should trade him now

Darius plays hard when he feels like it

McCoy is "great"

No one else is better than good...
and few are even good
- jdfitz77

We gonna do this? Don't really feel like justifying each player and their talents. But we have good players and you don't (frank)ing tank with a good roster.

A team that was 1 game below .500 in the last 2 years with pretty much the same players fired a coach because he sucked and his system sucked which held them back

They hired a coach who is better suited for the players how are they going to get worse?

This sounds pretty similar to what the Sabres did...

Do we expect the Sabres to be worse too?
- Stripes77

Breaking down how the Bills will be is MUCH more complex than you're making it
Again, for example...
can Tyrod complete passes on the run while he's doing all these roll outs?
And can the line pass block for him?
And can our WRs get open & male plays?

All legit questions that u are seemingly taking for granted just bc we have a (presumably) better coach

Dude, enough with the wrestling gifs.

I did
6 wins is closer to 3 than 11

6 is our over under
Usually that means +/- 2 wins...
unless something goes horribly wrong,
or everything goes amazingly well
- jdfitz77

7-9 or 8-8 as is

Unless something goes horribly wrong or amazingly well

I can be talked into 7 wins I can be talked into 11 wins

I don't see them finishing with less than 6 wins

We gonna do this? Don't really feel like justifying each player and their talents. But we have good players and you don't (frank)ing tank with a good roster.
- TheSabresTaco

I'll wait for our list of "great" players sir


McCoy
Sammie of healthy
Darius if he tries

That's it for "great"

Breaking down how the Bills will be is MUCH more complex than you're making it
Again, for example...
can Tyrod complete passes on the run while he's doing all these roll outs?
And can the line pass block for him?
And can our WRs get open & male plays?

All legit questions that u are seemingly taking for granted just bc we have a (presumably) better coach
- jdfitz77

Statistically speaking there was a breakdown for this and yes he was better when not in the pocket

I'll wait for our list of "great" players sir


McCoy
Sammie of healthy
Darius if he tries

That's it for "great"
- jdfitz77

Williams if he played for any other team he would be talked about as a Hall of Famer
Hughes

7-9 or 8-8 as is

Unless something goes horribly wrong or amazingly well

I can be talked into 7 wins I can be talked into 11 wins

I don't see them finishing with less than 6 wins
- Stripes77

That's bc u see everything going right it seems
There's just as much a possibility that we crash & burn

That's bc u see everything going right it seems
There's just as much a possibility that we crash & burn
- jdfitz77

Assuming Watkins gets hurt they are still at 6 wins

Now if McCoy goes down then all bets are off

Dude, enough with the wrestling gifs.
- TheSabresTaco

Theyre fruity IMO

Dudes in tight shorts all oiled up and flexing.

Williams if he played for any other team he would be talked about as a Hall of Famer
Hughes
- Stripes77

Hughes hasn't been great for a couple years now
8 sacks last year?
That's not "great"
Gotta be double digits to be a great pass rusher

Williams is getting old & breaking down
He's not what he once was
Decent still? For sure
Even good sometimes
But not "great"
Not anymore

Assuming Watkins gets hurt they are still at 6 wins

Now if McCoy goes down then all bets are off
- Stripes77

Hey...
I hope u guys are right

But we just have SO MANY questions
and are thin in A LOT of spots

That usually doesn't equal success

I'll wait for our list of "great" players sir


McCoy
Sammie of healthy
Darius if he tries

That's it for "great"
- jdfitz77

Christ. Fine.

Dareus has the talent to be one of the best DTs in the league. He's a beast, and progress reports on him are favoring. Hughes and Shaq are dominating. Tre White is looking like a total steal at 27. Alexander had 12 sacks last season. Kyle Williams is still a solid player. Glenn, Incognito very good at their position, one could even argue "great". McCoy and Watkins are "great". Dawkins and Jones are looking to be great players in the next couple seasons. Sorry for using the (frank)ing buzz word, Debbie.

Statistically speaking there was a breakdown for this and yes he was better when not in the pocket
- Stripes77

We will see
Too small of a sample size to assume it'll hold up
His accuracy needs to get better... A LOT better

Christ. Fine.

Dareus has the talent to be one of the best DTs in the league. He's a beast, and progress reports on him are favoring. Hughes and Shaq are dominating. Tre White is looking like a total steal at 27. Alexander had 12 sacks last season. Kyle Williams is still a solid player. Glenn, Incognito very good at their position, one could even argue "great". McCoy and Watkins are "great". Dawkins and Jones are looking to be great players in the next couple seasons. Sorry for using the (frank)ing buzz word, Debbie.
- TheSabresTaco

MUCH more accurate than "great"
That's what I'm saying

Hughes & Shaq are dominating what exactly?
The first week of practice?
And you're naming off guys you're hoping will perform well,
but we don't know yet bc we haven't seen them do it yet!!!
Come on dude

How great is Watkins when he is hurt?
Will Alexander continue the kind of play he's shown only once in his whole career?

I'm not saying these guys all suck...
but u can make a list like this for almost all the teams
And a better list for most of them

Theyre fruity IMO

Dudes in tight shorts all oiled up and flexing.
- Der Kaiser

Dude, enough with the wrestling gifs.
- TheSabresTaco

Cam hasn't been right since the NFC championship game 2 years ago

He is being extremely limited in training camp and hasn't been able to throw much if at all (so yeah he isn't himself)

The Bills beat Luck last year
- Stripes77

Was having a horrible camp
Ok just let me get this straight if Taylor was having a very bad Camp all you Taylor lovers will be like oh it's just practice it's not a real game situation

Now that it's not a Bills player you guys change your tune

- Larsson_fan

http://www.slate.com/arti...narrow_streets_video.html

Was having a horrible camp
Ok just let me get this straight if Taylor was having a very bad Camp all you Taylor lovers will be like oh it's just practice it's not a real game situation

Now that it's not a Bills player you guys change your tune
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Tyrod has been having a typical Tyrod season in training camp...good some days some days not so good

But you're just going to throw out all of Cam's struggles last year? Not to mention he went a full week of not throwing and is still not cleared to fully throw but you know that means nothing to a QB?

Tyrod has been having a typical Tyrod season in training camp...good some days some days not so good

But you're just going to throw out all of Cam's struggles last year? Not to mention he went a full week of not throwing and is still not cleared to fully throw but you know that means nothing to a QB?
- Stripes77

I'm not gonna read too much into week 1 of practices
Do we need to decide how good Cam will be this season NOW?

24-26? That's not when top 2 picks "breakout".

Reinhart is a fine player, but it's obvious we aren't waiting on some star in the making to break out of his shell
- sbroads24

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/sedinhe01.html 25
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/sedinda01.html 25
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/stefapa01.html lol
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/staaljo01.html 23
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/v/vanrija01.html 24
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/h/hedmavi01.html 23
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/n/nugenry01.html ?
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/y/yakupna01.html ?
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/m/murrary01.html ?
https://www.hockey-refere...m/players/r/ryanbo01.html 23 and hasn't come close since

Sorry, there's 1 #3 in there.

It's obvious huh?

Sam isn't even 22 yet.

Jesus Christ

I'm not saying he definitely will, hell, or even probably, but saying it's obvious he won't is asinine.

edit: A few more since I added the Sedins I might as well add the interim years.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/h/heatlda01.html 22
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/spezzja01.html 22
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/b/bouwmja01.html 22

So it happens way more than you'd like to admit.