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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Aug 7 @ 6:35 PM ET
I made the news


- GERBE!!!75PTS


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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 7 @ 6:37 PM ET
I think Sam ends up being a 58-63 point guy the rest of his career

Some seasons he might get the 65-68 points other years 52-55 points

But with how low scoring is these days I would be happy with that.

- Stripes77



What you're describing is solid first line players. Star caliber gets you a PPG, but plenty of first line guys fall in that range
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:38 PM ET
Do we still stink ?


- 22sabresQ


We don't if we're not obsessed with Murray's moves like I am
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 7 @ 6:38 PM ET
Do we still stink ?


- 22sabresQ


I vote WWE gifs after this lol
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:38 PM ET
What you're describing is solid first line players. Star caliber gets you a PPG, but plenty of first line guys fall in that range
- jcragcrumple


Careful, optimism is frowned upon here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
Here's a fresh take. Victor Antipin scores 35 points in his rookie season.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
Why do all you (frank)s keep replying to that nasty ass gif and bringing it back to my screen?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
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- Wetbandit1


In his post lol

... When I get home I'm sending out invs
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 6:41 PM ET
Sam Reinhart will never "blow up".

He is who he is. He will more than likely produce some more. But he aint turning into a top 5 scorer like the Sedin's were.

He's been given the ice time, linemates and PP time. He has the brains, he knows where to be.

He's not getting faster, and he's not turning into a dangler or sniper over night.

He's going to be that consistent 45-55 point guy (unless scoring goes up) who's solid at both ends.

If anything, it's the defense that will come along


(This is all my opinion, of course)

- sbroads24


My position isn't that he will. My position is that saying he never will, especially coming from a "stats" guy makes no sense whatsoever when a not insignificant amount of players in his position have indeed gone from decent, solid if unspectacular first few seasons to being superstars. And even some of the best of them didn't start at 18, the Sedins were 20 in their rookie season, JVR was 20 in his, Hedman was 19, Murray was 20, Bobby Ryan was 20, Heatley was 21, and Spezza was 19 and even started that year in the AHL(ahh the years where you could send a 19 year old CHL player to the AHL).




GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Aug 7 @ 6:42 PM ET
Why do all you (frank)s keep replying to that nasty ass gif and bringing it back to my screen?
- chilliard77


Looks like a zit or ass juice
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:45 PM ET
Looks like a zit or ass juice
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Word round these parts is you're into that kinda thing.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
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Aug 7 @ 6:45 PM ET
What you're describing is solid first line players. Superstar caliber gets you a PPG, but plenty of first line guys fall in that range
- jcragcrumple


FIFY

Almost no one gets PPG anymore. Only a few guys a year do it. It's like scoring 50 goals, it used to happen pretty frequently, now other than Ovechkin it rarely happens.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
Look at what all the "having a hockey take" means in August....just re-read every blog since April to get your fill of inane takes, endless rehashing of old nonsense, and adults acting like 15 year-olds.

I come here this time of year for the snappy put-downs, culinary adventures, the occasional boob pics, fashion advice and Gerbe's constant self-incrimination.


Wake me up in October.

- LandlordTom


I fully admit to being a semi-troll, hence why I chose one of the greatest lines ever uttered by the legendary Buffalo Hard Hat as my user name.

But holy hell, over the past few years there have been some very childish middle-aged men on here.

And Der Kaiser, if you're reading this, you regressed from a humorous curmudgeon into a straight sot with nothing to add to any conversation and constant attacks on people who you act no different from.

Dude posts wrestling gifs and he hasn't shut up about it in months but a Hitler gif of him screaming Nahtzee in the style of Yahtzee is wonderful to him and even though I made a big stink of it, I'm not on here every day pissing an moaning about it or his habitual abuse, telling people to kill themselves or to die.

Thank god Maximum Signal hasn't been here this summer, I really might have punched myself in the face until I died if I had to read his childish ramblings, name dropping and bragging.

Most of us can twat out, but we keep it clean and fun, for the most part and sometimes we argue too much about stupid stuff (and are polarized on politics big time) but that's fine, no one's ever going to agree on anything past loving the Sabres. But some people come here just to be miserable and it is just plain sad.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Aug 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
Looks like a zit or ass juice
- GERBE!!!75PTS



It's a skunk. Right when the GIF starts you can see the white fur on the back.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
Here's a fresh take. Victor Antipin scores 35 points in his rookie season.
- TheSabresTaco


That's about what I'm expecting from him, given all the hype.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
My position isn't that he will. My position is that saying he never will, especially coming from a "stats" guy makes no sense whatsoever when a not insignificant amount of players in his position have indeed gone from decent, solid if unspectacular first few seasons to being superstars. And even some of the best of them didn't start at 18, the Sedins were 20 in their rookie season, JVR was 20 in his, Hedman was 19, Murray was 20, Bobby Ryan was 20, Heatley was 21, and Spezza was 19 and even started that year in the AHL(ahh the years where you could send a 19 year old CHL player to the AHL).
- Wetbandit1

Odds say he won't "blow up".

Guys of his draft status are who they are very early.

Most guys that take a few years when they start out on line 3 or 4, got benched a few times, and didnt get PP time until year 3 or 4.

Reinhart was given the opportunities right away. For 2 straight years, with Eichel.

What will be the difference in year 3 that would be the catalyst for blowing up?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 7 @ 6:48 PM ET
Odds say he won't "blow up".

Guys of his draft status are who they are very early.

Most guys that take a few years when they start out on line 3 or 4, got benched a few times, and didnt get PP time until year 3 or 4.

Reinhart was given the opportunities right away. For 2 straight years, with Eichel.

What will be the difference in year 3 that would be the catalyst for blowing up?

- sbroads24


[Insert bad coaching comment here]
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 7 @ 6:48 PM ET
Careful, optimism is frowned upon here.
- TheSabresTaco



He's on a development curve to get 50-55 points this year. I don't think he'll ever score under 50 a year again unless he misses time for injury. He's sneaky good and basically scored 20 goals in both of his seasons. He's never gonna wow you with his razzle dazzle, but he can do everything well
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 7 @ 6:49 PM ET
Word round these parts is you're into that kinda thing.


- TheSabresTaco


I'm not really into asses tbh lol
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
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Aug 7 @ 6:55 PM ET
That's about what I'm expecting from him, given all the hype.
- BeadyEyedDouche


I think that's a stretch. Where is he going to get them? He's not going to take Risto's spot on the PP.

Anything over 25 is gravy. Risto is the only Sabres D to score over 20 points last year. McCabe had exactly 20. But in 76 games. Franson would've but he had 19 points in 68 games.

He'll likely be on the 3rd pair to start the season, so probably 15 or so games where he's only going to get like 13 minutes of ice time, maybe a minute or 2 on the 2nd PP. So maybe 15 total minutes is going to be hard to really get anything going for a solid chunk of the season.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Aug 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
He's on a development curve to get 50-55 points this year. I don't think he'll ever score under 50 a year again unless he misses time for injury. He's sneaky good and basically scored 20 goals in both of his seasons. He's never gonna wow you with his razzle dazzle, but he can do everything well
- jcragcrumple


I think most people including myself are just mad that Sam is not even close to the best player in his draft class and he's just a good player and not core impact players like the rest

I mean we could be (frank)ed right now
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
I'm not really into asses tbh lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

You wouldn't eat ass?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
He's on a development curve to get 50-55 points this year. I don't think he'll ever score under 50 a year again unless he misses time for injury. He's sneaky good and basically scored 20 goals in both of his seasons. He's never gonna wow you with his razzle dazzle, but he can do everything well
- jcragcrumple


No reason he can't be Bergeron.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Aug 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
You wouldn't eat ass?
- chilliard77


Lol that's one thing I won't do lol ..

Anal sure lol
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Aug 7 @ 7:01 PM ET
No reason he can't be Bergeron.
- TheSabresTaco


He will never be close to that
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