The last 14 seasons, the AFC Championship game included one of either Brady, Manning, or Roethlisberger.

Only one time in the past 14 seasons did the Super Bowl not include one of those quaterbacks. Joe Flacco in 2012.
- rmiethaner

I don't know of a single person that doesn't think that you absolutely need a QB to win in the NFL, so I'm not entirely sure where you're going with that.

The Browns did it right IMO

They did the tear down, but were patient not to draft any QB (Like Wentz, who I think is very mediocre)

They stockpiled cap space and picks, and when they draft or find their QB, he will walk in to a bevy of weapons, and cap space to get weapons.
- sbroads24

It's ok, they'll just draft Tim Couch again.

I don't know of a single person that doesn't think that you absolutely need a QB to win in the NFL, so I'm not entirely sure where you're going with that.
- Wetbandit1

Just something I found interesting.

I don't think that the Bills will tank, and it is not 100% guaranteed that the USC QB will be leaving school after this season.

BECAUSE WHEN IT MATTERED,
The Offense didn't come through... did it?
Nope

But hang on a sec...
I'll get back to you on this absolutely ridiculous notion that "we were good enough to make the playoffs" dumba$$ statement
- jdfitz77

So when an offense literally is playing from behind every game because the defense couldn't stop the run or couldn't stop a pass or couldn't even get the ball back this is the offense's fault?

10th in the league in scoring

2004...the last time the Bills were in the top 10 in the league in scoring the only 2 times during the playoff drought they were that high

But please tell me how it was the offense's fault they didn't make the playoffs

HERE YA GO STRIPES...


Last year...


8-8 Baltimore lost to NYJ & Cinci
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Tennessee lost to JAX, HOU & SD
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

8-8 Indianapolis lost to JAC & HOU twice
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Denver lost to SD
If only they won that ONE game, they could've made the playoffs

8-7-1 Washington lost to DET, ARZ, CAR & tied CIN
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-9 Philadelphia lost to CIN & DETLast year...
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

8-8 Minnesota lost to CHI & DET twice
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Tampa lost to ARZ, NO, CAR & STL
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-9 New Orleans lost to CAR & DET
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-8-1 Arizona lost to BUF, STL, NO & CAR
If only they won two of those games, they could've made the playoffs


SEE HOW EASY IT IT TO PRETEND WE COULDVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS
LOTS OF TEAM DO EVERY FREAKING YEAR

The Bills would've had to beat the Jets twice, and Miami once...
maybe twice depending on the tiebreaker


We were NOT good enough to make the playoffs
We were a mediocre 7-9 for a reason

So when an offense literally is playing from behind every game because the defense couldn't stop the run or couldn't stop a pass or couldn't even get the ball back this is the offense's fault?

10th in the league in scoring

2004...the last time the Bills were in the top 10 in the league in scoring the only 2 times during the playoff drought they were that high

But please tell me how it was the offense's fault they didn't make the playoffs
- Stripes77

I never even said it was the offenses fault
But again...
the OFFENSE had chances...
LOTS OF THEM
late in games to drive down & score a TD and they
DID NOT DO IT

so was the loss the "fault" of the offense?
Idk... that's semantics

The point is that they weren't good enough to actually WIN the game

Correct, or not?
In every single one of those 6 losses by 7 or less the offense had at least 1 shot to drive down & score a TD and they did not do it
That's the bottom line

And yes...
if we had our "Luck" then we'd have had a better chance to do so

So when an offense literally is playing from behind every game because the defense couldn't stop the run or couldn't stop a pass or couldn't even get the ball back this is the offense's fault?

10th in the league in scoring

2004...the last time the Bills were in the top 10 in the league in scoring the only 2 times during the playoff drought they were that high

But please tell me how it was the offense's fault they didn't make the playoffs
- Stripes77

Without Wide Recievers too

HERE YA GO STRIPES...


Last year...


8-8 Baltimore lost to NYJ & Cinci
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Tennessee lost to JAX, HOU & SD
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

8-8 Indianapolis lost to JAC & HOU twice
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Denver lost to SD
If only they won that ONE game, they could've made the playoffs

8-7-1 Washington lost to DET, ARZ, CAR & tied CIN
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-9 Philadelphia lost to CIN & DETLast year...
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

8-8 Minnesota lost to CHI & DET twice
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

9-7 Tampa lost to ARZ, NO, CAR & STL
If only they won ONE of those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-9 New Orleans lost to CAR & DET
If only they won those games, they could've made the playoffs

7-8-1 Arizona lost to BUF, STL, NO & CAR
If only they won two of those games, they could've made the playoffs


SEE HOW EASY IT IT TO PRETEND WE COULDVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS
LOTS OF TEAM DO EVERY FREAKING YEAR

The Bills would've had to beat the Jets twice, and Miami once...
maybe twice depending on the tiebreaker


We were NOT good enough to make the playoffs
We were a mediocre 7-9 for a reason
- jdfitz77

The only team that scored more points that the Bills last year of those names above is Arizona which the Bills beat last year

Again the reason they didn't make the playoffs last year was the defense was AWFUL

This is from spongebob, you know, that fictional cartoon show?
- chilliard77

Kelp is a real thing lol .. I'm sure they make shakes just never had it

I never even said it was the offenses fault
But again...
the OFFENSE had chances...
LOTS OF THEM
late in games to drive down & score a TD and they
DID NOT DO IT

so was the loss the "fault" of the offense?
Idk... that's semantics

The point is that they weren't good enough to actually WIN the game

Correct, or not?
In every single one of those 6 losses by 7 or less the offense had at least 1 shot to drive down & score a TD and they did not do it
That's the bottom line

And yes...
if we had our "Luck" then we'd have had a better chance to do so
- jdfitz77

It is not semantics.

It's fact.

The offense was good enough to make the playoffs last year

My original post if you want to go back and read was the reason the Bills didn't make the playoffs was because the defense was HOT GARBAGE.

The offense (which last I checked included the QB) was good enough last year to make the playoffs.

So because the offense couldn't score in the last drive of the game it's their fault? How about the other 55 minutes or so where the defense was awful?

Without Wide Recievers too
- sbroads24

Exactly.

The offense this year should be better than last years.

If the defense can pick up the 4-3 which they should have been anyway I don't see this team being worse than last year.

Kelp is a real thing lol .. I'm sure they make shakes just never had it
- GERBE!!!75PTS

No way, I had no idea

Exactly.

The offense this year should be better than last years.

If the defense can pick up the 4-3 which they should have been anyway I don't see this team being worse than last year.
- Stripes77

I hope, I'm hesitant to say yes with the new coaching staff.

Not that Ryan was good, but it might take time to adjust

I hope, I'm hesitant to say yes with the new coaching staff.

Not that Ryan was good, but it might take time to adjust
- sbroads24

Even if it's not better and it's the same would you not take 10th in the league in scoring?

Believe me I understand the need and importance of having a franchise QB and I am not sitting here saying Tyrod is that can't miss franchise guy, but I do believe he is good enough to get this team in the playoffs and maybe even win a round or two.

The Jets blogger has a 3rd pairing of Myers and Kulikov. At $10 million in combined salary.

No way, I had no idea
- chilliard77

I'm crying

It is not semantics.

It's fact.

The offense was good enough to make the playoffs last year

My original post if you want to go back and read was the reason the Bills didn't make the playoffs was because the defense was HOT GARBAGE.

The offense (which last I checked included the QB) was good enough last year to make the playoffs.

So because the offense couldn't score in the last drive of the game it's their fault? How about the other 55 minutes or so where the defense was awful?
- Stripes77

Once again for the reading impared...

I NEVER SAID OT WAS THE OFFENSE'S FAULT

However,
It's completely FACTUAL (not opinion) that when the offense had chances to drive down & score a TD in the 6 games we lost by 7 or less...
THEY DID NOT DO IT

Don't u think getting a Franchise QB in this coming draft would help that?

Of course it would
So just stop

YOUR EXACT WORDS
"We were good enough to make the playoffs last year"

No, no we were not
I shattered that point with how 10 other teams could've said that too


Would it help if the defense was better?
Of course
Is it their "fault" we didn't win games last year?
Ok, fine... it was

But our TEAM was NOT good enough to make the playoffs

And EVERYONE (except you apparently) knows that the best way to consistently have a good team is to get a Franchise QB

Would we have work to do once we get him?
Of course

But without a Franchose QB...
we are a hell of a lot less likely to become a team like Pats, Steelers, etc etc

So the MOST IMPORTANT thing we can/should do...
is try to get that QB

Even if it's not better and it's the same would you not take 10th in the league in scoring?

Believe me I understand the need and importance of having a franchise QB and I am not sitting here saying Tyrod is that can't miss franchise guy, but I do believe he is good enough to get this team in the playoffs and maybe even win a round or two.
- Stripes77

If that's the "goal" then I think u are missing the point

We want a legit chance to build a SUPER BOWL TEAM
Not just a "playoff team"

Trying to build a playoff team hasn't worked so well since Kelley, has it?

The Jets blogger has a 3rd pairing of Myers and Kulikov. At $10 million in combined salary.


- SabreWest

Way more than u wanna pay of course
But if they could stay healthy & play to potential,
it could be the best 3rd pair in hockey
Could even rival a good 2nd pair

I'm crying
- GERBE!!!75PTS

That was sarcasm.

Way more than u wanna pay of course
But if they could stay healthy & play to potential,
it could be the best 3rd pair in hockey
Could even rival a good 2nd pair
- jdfitz77

If I were Maurice, I'd steer clear of a Myers/Kulikov pairing.

That combined Hockey IQ is less than there jersey numbers

That was sarcasm.
- chilliard77

I'm still crying ..

Looks like pasta for dinner tonight I just bought some

It was as so good no joke
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Congratulations, Idk how you did it, but you ruined pizza.

If I were Maurice, I'd steer clear of a Myers/Kulikov pairing.

That combined Hockey IQ is less than there jersey numbers
- sbroads24

Um...
I thought u liked Myers?

Being serious

If I were Maurice, I'd steer clear of a Myers/Kulikov pairing.

That combined Hockey IQ is less than there jersey numbers
- sbroads24

Btw...
I agree with your take on the Browns

But even though we aren't "set up" like them...
I still feel the most important thing we can do is get that Franchise QB in the draft next spring