We could use a guy like him.
- VanHockeyGuy

He's a special teams player, not a big fan, his skating sucks. Draisaitl is the real deal.

Who are you talking about? I see two pretty talented guys and a bunch of second tier players, good ones, but still second tier. Playoffs, sure, maybe. You need those top tier guys to win a Cup and I don't see a lot of them around.
- LeftCoaster

I was talking about Bo, Gran, Sven, Stetcher, Hutton, and I agree that I don't think they're good enough to win a cup. But even though i don't think they are, doesn't mean they won't. I don't think you NEED a Sid, Malkin, McD, Leon, type team to win anymore. HOWEVER, its been that way for the past couple years so obviously the argument is in your favor. But I see things changing, Ottawa, Anaheim, Nash, could've easily won this past year and that would've been different. For example, the Sens were a bounce away from the SCF, with Turris and Hoffman as their "Elite" C's, why is it impossible to think Bo, Petterson won't be capable of doing the same? In the Sens example, the difference is we lack a Karlson, but the Pens just proved you can win without an Elite Dman. There's so many variables and its getting harder to predict what type of team with what type of players you need to win a cup.

He's a special teams player, not a big fan, his skating sucks. Draisaitl is the real deal.
- LeftCoaster

79GP 17G 30A 47PTS

He's 21, didn't have a bad season. You also might be able to trade for him,

Draisaitl...not so much.

79GP 17G 30A 47PTS

He's 21, didn't have a bad season. You also might be able to trade for him,

Draisaitl...not so much.
- VanHockeyGuy

40% of his points were scored on the PP. If I remember correctly.

45% of his points were scored on the PP. If I remember correctly.
- LeftCoaster

Josh Bailey as UFA, another stop gap.

Josh Bailey as UFA, another stop gap.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yup sure, but why would be sign in Vancouver?

Yup sure, but why would be sign in Vancouver?
- LeftCoaster

CA on Canuck prospects at the summer showcase.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...owcase-canucks-prospects/

I was talking about Bo, Gran, Sven, Stetcher, Hutton, and I agree that I don't think they're good enough to win a cup. But even though i don't think they are, doesn't mean they won't. I don't think you NEED a Sid, Malkin, McD, Leon, type team to win anymore. HOWEVER, its been that way for the past couple years so obviously the argument is in your favor. But I see things changing, Ottawa, Anaheim, Nash, could've easily won this past year and that would've been different. For example, the Sens were a bounce away from the SCF, with Turris and Hoffman as their "Elite" C's, why is it impossible to think Bo, Petterson won't be capable of doing the same? In the Sens example, the difference is we lack a Karlson, but the Pens just proved you can win without an Elite Dman. There's so many variables and its getting harder to predict what type of team with what type of players you need to win a cup.
- Brooks_Light

Yes there certainly is, I'm still of the opinion you need highend players to even have a chance.

Yes there certainly is, I'm still of the opinion you need highend players to even have a chance.
- LeftCoaster

Yes there certainly is, I'm still of the opinion you need highend players to even have a chance.
- LeftCoaster

The Rangers will be putting your theory to the test once again this season. Some real good players throughout the lineup with McDonaugh being the closest they have to elite now than Lundqvist's play has declined

Yes there certainly is, I'm still of the opinion you need highend players to even have a chance.
- LeftCoaster

How does that explain Ottawa? Other than Karlson of course?

What about Anaheim? Are Getzclaf and Perry considered High end?

How does that explain Ottawa? Other than Karlson of course?

What about Anaheim? Are Getzclaf and Perry considered High end?
- Brooks_Light

Getzlaf = Yes
Perry = No

Josh Bailey as UFA, another stop gap.
- VanHockeyGuy

A 40 point career player is a little more then a stop gap. Probably a good 3rd line pick up if have the cap space and no one better. Would provide experience.

Yup sure, but why would be sign in Vancouver?
- LeftCoaster

Because he really likes Fin.

Projecting when the Canucks will make the playoffs is like determining a lotto win in the draft. Brooks said it right there are so many variables. Lefty is being conservative based on accumulation of talent by draft.

The variables like player development, trades and UFA signings are unknown factors that tip these turnarounds. Not to mention pillars like coaching, goaltending and the it factor of team chemistry. That said a couple lotto wins and things get real.

#DialingItIn4Dahlin And #StickingIt4Svetchnikov

A 40 point career player is a little more then a stop gap. Probably a good 3rd line pick up if have the cap space and no one better. Would provide experience.
- manvanfan

Sounds like a little more productive Sutter.

How does that explain Ottawa? Other than Karlson of course?

What about Anaheim? Are Getzclaf and Perry considered High end?
- Brooks_Light

Karlsson is arguably the best dman in the league

Getzlaf is a high end #1 C. Lindholm is a legit #1 dman.

A 40 point career player is a little more then a stop gap. Probably a good 3rd line pick up if have the cap space and no one better. Would provide experience.
- manvanfan

Right and Isles fans would prefer having Sutter over Bailey.

If Turris is available he would be better and could tip retiring the Sedins.

Then EP and Guadette could be brought in for sheltered minutes on bottom lines and learn the NHL basics before moving up the scoring/impact food chain core.

Because he really likes Fin.
- Marwood

Right and Isles fans would prefer having Sutter over Bailey.

If Turris is available he would be better and could tip retiring the Sedins.

Then EP and Guadette could be brought in for sheltered minutes on bottom lines and learn the NHL basics before moving up the scoring/impact food chain core.
- Nuck4U

No thanks to Turris, I dont see where he fits with the money/term he would be asking as a UFA. His stats vs Western Conference doesnt have me impressed or sold that he would live up to a contract larger than Bo's

Yup sure, but why would be sign in Vancouver?
- LeftCoaster

Maybe he's a big fan of 8 months of straight rain and clouds?

Karlsson is arguably the best dman in the league

Getzlaf is a high end #1 C. Lindholm is a legit #1 dman.
- Nucker101

There is little to no doubt on this. Sometimes his defence is a bit suspect but his offence covers that in spades.

There is little to no doubt on this. Sometimes his defence is a bit suspect but his offence covers that in spades.
- LordHumungous

that arguement was put to rest by and large in the playoffs...