CanuckDon
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Fun game. Now do the the prospects we could have had if we had kept all our drafts picks the last 4-5 years - Nucker101
(frank) prospects it's all about accumulating as many old and slow Swedes as possible |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Great read on contracts.
The benchmark for this metric is about $100K/point, as GM’s expect those big-time forwards and offensive defenseman who they award with $6MM, $7MM, and $8MM per year contracts to be putting up 60, 70, or 80 points respectively. For the second year in a row, St. Louis Blues superstar Vladimir Tarasenko was the poster boy for this standard, coming in at exactly $100K/point with 75 points on a $7.5MM deal. Winnipeg’s Bryan Little and New Jersey’s Adam Henrique are two other notable names that hit the mark exactly, while phenoms like Sidney Crosby and Duncan Keith landing close to the $100K/point mark show that it is an accurate expectation.
However, the exception to the rule is obviously entry-level contracts
last summer, eventually settling on a $650K “show me” deal with Columbus. Right away people tagged that contract, for a six-time 40+ point scorer, as an absolute bargain, even if Gagner simply bounced back to normal production. He did one better, posting a career-high 50 points for the Jackets and coming in at $13K/point, good enough for sixth in the NHL. Gagner has since moved on to the Vancouver Canucks, signing a three-year, $9.45MM contract on July 1st. However, if he is able to continue to produce at 40-50 point levels over that deal, his $3.15MM cap hit will remain a great bargain deal.
Usually that's how I start with my contracts. Factoring in length of contract. The "intangibles".
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Great read on contracts.
The benchmark for this metric is about $100K/point, as GM’s expect those big-time forwards and offensive defenseman who they award with $6MM, $7MM, and $8MM per year contracts to be putting up 60, 70, or 80 points respectively. For the second year in a row, St. Louis Blues superstar Vladimir Tarasenko was the poster boy for this standard, coming in at exactly $100K/point with 75 points on a $7.5MM deal. Winnipeg’s Bryan Little and New Jersey’s Adam Henrique are two other notable names that hit the mark exactly, while phenoms like Sidney Crosby and Duncan Keith landing close to the $100K/point mark show that it is an accurate expectation.
However, the exception to the rule is obviously entry-level contracts
last summer, eventually settling on a $650K “show me” deal with Columbus. Right away people tagged that contract, for a six-time 40+ point scorer, as an absolute bargain, even if Gagner simply bounced back to normal production. He did one better, posting a career-high 50 points for the Jackets and coming in at $13K/point, good enough for sixth in the NHL. Gagner has since moved on to the Vancouver Canucks, signing a three-year, $9.45MM contract on July 1st. However, if he is able to continue to produce at 40-50 point levels over that deal, his $3.15MM cap hit will remain a great bargain deal.
Usually that's how I start with my contracts. Factoring in length of contract. The "intangibles". - manvanfan
So Bo should come in around at around 6m for 6 years? |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Fun game. Now do the the prospects we could have had if we had kept all our drafts picks the last 4-5 years - Nucker101
Can you list the ones that got away for who Canucks are saddled with...? |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Can you list the ones that got away for who Canucks are saddled with...? - Nuck4U
I'll do it randomly one day when you least expect it. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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So Bo should come in around at around 6m for 6 years? - dbot
I would say more lile 5.5 |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Great read on contracts.
The benchmark for this metric is about $100K/point, as GM’s expect those big-time forwards and offensive defenseman who they award with $6MM, $7MM, and $8MM per year contracts to be putting up 60, 70, or 80 points respectively. For the second year in a row, St. Louis Blues superstar Vladimir Tarasenko was the poster boy for this standard, coming in at exactly $100K/point with 75 points on a $7.5MM deal. Winnipeg’s Bryan Little and New Jersey’s Adam Henrique are two other notable names that hit the mark exactly, while phenoms like Sidney Crosby and Duncan Keith landing close to the $100K/point mark show that it is an accurate expectation.
However, the exception to the rule is obviously entry-level contracts
last summer, eventually settling on a $650K “show me” deal with Columbus. Right away people tagged that contract, for a six-time 40+ point scorer, as an absolute bargain, even if Gagner simply bounced back to normal production. He did one better, posting a career-high 50 points for the Jackets and coming in at $13K/point, good enough for sixth in the NHL. Gagner has since moved on to the Vancouver Canucks, signing a three-year, $9.45MM contract on July 1st. However, if he is able to continue to produce at 40-50 point levels over that deal, his $3.15MM cap hit will remain a great bargain deal.
Usually that's how I start with my contracts. Factoring in length of contract. The "intangibles". - manvanfan
so essentially 5M for horvat then |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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I would say more lile 5.5 - manvanfan
So you go on last season, or forecasting for the future 5-6 years, expecting those totals to rise a bit??
5.5 suggests that Bo has reached his ceiling then no? |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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So you go on last season, or forecasting for the future 5-6 years, expecting those totals to rise a bit??
5.5 suggests that Bo has reached his ceiling then no? - dbot
I'd be ecstatic if we can lock Bo up long term for $5.5MM per |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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wow its nice being able to just talk canucks without all the trolling nonsense and hatred. It's like a vacation!
Hope next piece of good news is horvat 4.5 x 8
dreaming yes but so far this weekend miracles have occurred |
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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the new one has already aired today? - SMBDragon
it was hacked/leaked... saw it on the interwebz a couple nights ago.
beyond the air quality, nice day to be out and about.
an early happy BC day to all. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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it was hacked/leaked... saw it on the interwebz a couple nights ago. - hillbillydeluxe
tell me about that, Im not a user of it thus far |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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tell me about that, Im not a user of it thus far - SMBDragon
get an android- kodi box. they are not illegal.
I actually have a pc hooked up to my home theatre and use the Kodi app along with regular internet streaming sites. |
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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it was reminiscent of the Hobbit... that big crossbow.
okay, i'll stop now. - hillbillydeluxe
True. But way better done imo.
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Which Dman will be traded this Summer ? What is the return?
Tanev
Edler
Stecher
Hutton
MDZ
Biega
Gudbrandson
OJ
Subban
Pedan
Weircoch
Holm - VANTEL
I wouldn't be surprised if any of the bolded are traded. and Weircoch at tdl.
I think there is just as much chance Granlund, Baertschi, Rodin, Burmistrov, Boucher or maybe even JV are traded.
more picks or prospects please. |
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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get an android- kodi box. they are not illegal.
I actually have a pc hooked up to my home theatre and use the Kodi app along with regular internet streaming sites. - hillbillydeluxe
i have 2 actually |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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i have 2 actually - SMBDragon
luv it.
I used to download with a vpn from europe, but it is just as easy to watch a free stream. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I wouldn't be surprised if any of the bolded are traded. and Weircoch at tdl.
I think there is just as much chance Granlund, Baertschi, Rodin, Burmistrov, Boucher or maybe even JV are traded.
more picks or prospects please. - hillbillydeluxe
Stecher isn't going anywhere but I agree on the rest. I suspect they have already tried to move Hutton |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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So you go on last season, or forecasting for the future 5-6 years, expecting those totals to rise a bit??
5.5 suggests that Bo has reached his ceiling then no? - dbot
Mark Scheifele got 6.125 after a 61 points season.
Monahan got 6.325 after a 63 point season.
Drouin got 5.5 after a 53 point season.
So Bo will probably get paid a little extra since that's what JB does. 52 point season. 5.5 sounds about right for 6 years.
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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Stecher isn't going anywhere but I agree on the rest. I suspect they have already tried to move Hutton - CanuckDon
I was just thinking who doesn't have any movement restrictions and might have some value.
who I wouldn't want to see traded, future core: Horvat, OJ, Pettersson, BB, Demko and Gaunce. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I was just thinking who doesn't have any movement restrictions and might have some value.
who I wouldn't want to see traded, future core: Horvat, OJ, Pettersson, BB, Demko and Gaunce. - hillbillydeluxe
Gaunce |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Brady Ferguson
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=190324
Dylan Sikura
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=146580
Tyler Sheehy
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=118549
All apart of the 50 point plus club from NCAA last season. Will be Free Agents at the end of next season. - manvanfan
True though there is this to consider:
Ferguson would be the first RMU alumni if he made the NHL. He went to Penguins development camp. He's undrafted but is keen on maximizing options with contending team that has shallow prospect pool and winger needs.
Sikura says he will sign with Hawks who drafted him. They need him and have winger needs.
Sheehy is younger of three and could have sought a contract this summer. But chose to go back for junior year and be captain. So maybe he'll do a Molino and look for a team to sign and burn a year come 2018 Spring.
Canucks greatest needs are top line players, Center depth and top pairing D. So far they have 3 prospects who might fill those needs plus Guadette for center depth. |
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