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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 12:46 PM ET
Flyers/Stars fan here who thinks Canucks will be much better than people give them credit for.

Sedin-Sedin-Gagner
Baerstchi-Horvat-Erikksson
Granlund-Sutter-Goldobin
Burmistrov-Chaput-Megna
-Dorsett, Boucher

MDZ-Tanev
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Gudbranson
-Wiercioch

How'd I do Canuck bros?

edit: Before anyone rips my head off, that's the best way to balance out your D. MDZ is a solid dman, but I wouldn't stick him with anyone else on your roster other than Gudbranson or Tanev.

- mochoson


Pretty good and agree the Nucks won't be as bad as predicted. I have them around 24th no higher.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 12:47 PM ET
that list is straight garbage. No idea what the "stars" fan is on about
- CanuckDon

There really isn't much there. Seabrook and Keith are 32 and 34, even if they are exception players. There play will start to decline soon.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:57 PM ET
Pretty good and agree the Nucks won't be as bad as predicted. I have them around 24th no higher.
- LordHumungous


yep, but the teams ahead of us in the Pacific keep getting better.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
It would take 10 years, if there wasn't trades and free agents.
TML rookies have been seasoning for a while now.
Connor Brown 23
Nikita Zaitsev 25
Zach Hyman 25
Nikita Soshnikov 23


MAtthews 19
Marner 20
Nylander 21

Nylander year and a half in the AHL
Marner back to junior for a year.
Matthews an elite NHL ready player (rare these days)

- manvanfan


I get what you are saying. I original suggested players like Goldobin who has brewed in minors with cup of coffee in nhl and Virtanen to go along with Boeser. Both have spent time in AHL and briefly in nhl.

#in with the new
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
PROJECTED 2018 TEAM CANADA WORLD JUNIOR HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP ROSTER
G LD RD
Michael DiPietro
Carter Hart<

Jake Bean< Cale Makar
Samuel Girard Dante Fabbro<
Kale Clague< Cal Foote
Josh Mahura


LW C RW
Pierre-Luc Dubois< Sam Steel Jordan Kyrou
Dillon Dube< Brett Howden Taylor Raddysh<
Michael Rasmussen Michael McLeod< Gabe Vilardi
Givani Smith Cody Glass Robert Thomas
Nick Suzuki
< - denotes returning player

Roster Lacks a number 1 D man
Any Physicality from the back end.
Elite scoring from the forwards
Lots of two way forwards.
Scoring from the defence, shouldn't be a problem.

Doesn't scream a gold Medal team to me though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 7 @ 1:04 PM ET
PROJECTED 2018 TEAM CANADA WORLD JUNIOR HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP ROSTER
G LD RD
Michael DiPietro
Carter Hart<

Jake Bean< Cale Makar
Samuel Girard Dante Fabbro<
Kale Clague< Cal Foote
Josh Mahura


LW C RW
Pierre-Luc Dubois< Sam Steel Jordan Kyrou
Dillon Dube< Brett Howden Taylor Raddysh<
Michael Rasmussen Michael McLeod< Gabe Vilardi
Givani Smith Cody Glass Robert Thomas
Nick Suzuki
< - denotes returning player

Roster Lacks a number 1 D man
Any Physicality from the back end.
Elite scoring from the forwards
Lots of two way forwards.
Scoring from the defence, shouldn't be a problem.

Doesn't scream a gold Medal team to me though.

- manvanfan


That roster stinks
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
yep, but the teams ahead of us in the Pacific keep getting better.
- hillbillydeluxe

True (some teams) but also equal amounts getting worse. LA, SJ, CHI, ANA and even STL are most likely taking a big collective step back.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
That roster stinks
- VANTEL

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
I get what you are saying. I original suggested players like Goldobin who has brewed in minors with cup of coffee in nhl and Virtanen to go along with Boeser. Both have spent time in AHL and briefly in nhl.

#in with the new

- Reubenkincade

A rookie to me is a rookie. At any age.

Virtanen a year in the AHL and showed strides and maturity. Having him in the AHL playing top minutes and rounding out his game.

Goldy has had 2 years and it scoring at a PPG in the AHL. It may come down to numbers games and one way contracts.

I doubt there will be many meaningful games in the NHL for Canucks prospects. I would rather have them play in the AHL play to win every night, make the playoffs and take a run at the Calder cup.

I don't want to see players ruined to please fans. Long term success over short term gains.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 7 @ 1:09 PM ET
Doing the same as Van fans used to do list every prospect in the system.

Chicago lost 5 of their top 15 scorers.

Tomas Jurco had 1 goal in 31 games last season.

Brendan Gaunce at the same rate as Dauphin last year. You probably have a fringe 4th liner on your hands.

Schmaltz, Hartman, Hayden are probably the only 3 players on the list, I would consider decent prospects anymore

- manvanfan


1. I absolutely did not list every prospect in the system. I listed guys who are very young and are already making contributions at the NHL level. Which part of that statement is incorrect?

2. Their 15th scorer was TVR with 16 points. The fact that you had to stretch this to 15 to be able to say they lost 5 scorers is the definition of reaching. How many teams every year have even 10 noteworthy scorers? The list is small. Nick Schmaltz was 10 on the Blackhawks with 28 points, and you're talking about one of the best teams in the league.

3. Jurco managed 16 games before coming to the Hawks. Switching organizations and getting used to your 3rd coach in such a short amount of time would be hard on any young player. He looked better and better the more he got ice-time.

4. If you think those are the only guys worth mentioning, you didn't watch the Hawks enough this past year.

The point of listing all these young players is that every year, at least a few of them are going to continually improve. Are all of those players gonna be stars in the long run? Obviously not.

But guys like Schmaltz, Hartman, DeBrincat, Forsling...these guys aren't going anywhere.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 7 @ 1:11 PM ET
Canucks goal should be finding a center that will bring Loui into top line form. We have five more years invested in this guy so instead of throwing it away and wasting 6 mil a year find him a top line center.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 7 @ 1:11 PM ET
that list is straight garbage. No idea what the "stars" fan is on about
- CanuckDon


Lmao it's a list that no other team competitive in the NHL can replicate. No other team has that many guys under the age of 26 on their roster who played NHL games last year.

It's such a garbage list that all of those players helped contribute to the Hawks making the playoffs.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:12 PM ET
That roster stinks
- VANTEL

I think you will see some changes to that. That's Craig Buttons projected. We all know he's not very smart. I mean it's missing Kole Lind, Gadjovich.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Canucks goal should be finding a center that will bring Loui into top line form. We have five more years invested in this guy so instead of throwing it away and wasting 6 mil a year find him a top line center.
- VANTEL

True plus he needs to utilized properly. Looking at his history with Dallas and Boston he was given what he needed to work with to succeed for the most part and almost always had better sophomore seasons. I do believe he will be over the 50 point mark this year if Green gives him the proper opportunity and line mates. But to expect 60+ points with this supporting roster will be unrealistic.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:19 PM ET
1. I absolutely did not list every prospect in the system. I listed guys who are very young and are already making contributions at the NHL level. Which part of that statement is incorrect?

2. Their 15th scorer was TVR with 16 points. The fact that you had to stretch this to 15 to be able to say they lost 5 scorers is the definition of reaching. How many teams every year have even 10 noteworthy scorers? The list is small. Nick Schmaltz was 10 on the Blackhawks with 28 points, and you're talking about one of the best teams in the league.

3. Jurco managed 16 games before coming to the Hawks. Switching organizations and getting used to your 3rd coach in such a short amount of time would be hard on any young player. He looked better and better the more he got ice-time.

4. If you think those are the only guys worth mentioning, you didn't watch the Hawks enough this past year.

The point of listing all these young players is that every year, at least a few of them are going to continually improve. Are all of those players gonna be stars in the long run? Obviously not.

But guys like Schmaltz, Hartman, DeBrincat, Forsling...these guys aren't going anywhere.

- mochoson

If a team was made up of 10 players then I wouldn't have to "stretch it out". That's probably why when the Hawks got into the playoffs they got swept because you need a 4 forward lines with 3 d pairings contributing.

The fact is that you have probably 4 guys that you mentioned, yet you listed 14 players.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think you will see some changes to that. That's Craig Buttons projected. We all know he's not very smart. I mean it's missing Kole Lind, Gadjovich.
- manvanfan

Button did assemble 99% of that 2004 Flames team that went to the Cup final and 'technically' won…he ain't all that dumb...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:23 PM ET
Button did assemble 99% of that 2004 Flames team that went to the Cup final and 'technically' won…he ain't all that dumb...
- LordHumungous

Slightly different game 13 years ago.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 7 @ 1:24 PM ET
True plus he needs to utilized properly. Looking at his history with Dallas and Boston he was given what he needed to work with to succeed for the most part and almost always had better sophomore seasons. I do believe he will be over the 50 point mark this year if Green gives him the proper opportunity and line mates. But to expect 60+ points with this supporting roster will be unrealistic.
- LordHumungous



Hate to keep on harping on it but Willie tried to find ways to make the team work around the twins . Hopefully Travis will come in with the mindset of just how to make the team work period.

Gagner and Loui can be top 6 if you find someone to compliment them. That will take care of three more years of development for the young guys.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
Slightly different game 13 years ago.
- manvanfan

lol still relevant however...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
Canucks goal should be finding a center that will bring Loui into top line form. We have five more years invested in this guy so instead of throwing it away and wasting 6 mil a year find him a top line center.
- VANTEL


That would have to happen via trade, unlikely.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 7 @ 1:32 PM ET
That would have to happen via trade, unlikely.
- VanHockeyGuy



Turris ?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
Turris ?
- VANTEL

Tavares.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
Turris ?
- VANTEL


They will try to resign him. Plus if they were to offer him up, why would he come here, and what would we have to overpay for a pending UFA?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
Tavares.
- manvanfan



If obtainable of course.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:36 PM ET
If obtainable of course.
- VANTEL

Would probably start with a 1st and EP.
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