good morning. been awhile since my last post. glad to see the gaunce talk and bickering has subsided. just wasn't worth coming on here. 1 month till young stars. NFL starting up. Now we just need to clear this smoke.

good morning. been awhile since my last post. glad to see the gaunce talk and bickering has subsided. just wasn't worth coming on here. 1 month till young stars. NFL starting up. Now we just need to clear this smoke.
- storm88

Flagged.

Flagged.
- Marwood

i'm heading out of town for the next few days anyway.

1) Gretzky
2) Orr
3) Lemieux

i'm heading out of town for the next few days anyway.
- storm88

That should give you time to reflect on your anti-Gaunce rhetoric.

Just reading about Crosby turning 30 and his place in history, it's hard to believe he has more Stanley Cups than Mario Lemieux considering how good those early 90's Penguins teams were and the fact that Mario was arguably the greatest player to ever play the game.
- LeftCoaster

One more cup and you could really make the argument of Crosby passing Lemieux and Gretzky on the GOAT lists. Hell you could even make that argument now considering what Crosby has accomplished in this era.

We will never see another hockey player as pure as Bobby Orr. Ever. Regardless of era, equipment…whatever…he just had all the tools magnificently. The ultimate compete player so to speak.

1) Orr
2) Crosby
3) Lemieux
- LeftCoaster

4) Gretzky
5) Howe

Fixed for ya...

That should give you time to reflect on your anti-Gaunce rhetoric.
- Marwood

Gonch will score of his ass in his first 9 games to impress Green and will be 4th line lock for 77 games because he is 'defensively responsible'.

4) Gretzky
5) Howe

Fixed for ya...
- LordHumungous

Bloated will not be happy with you

Bloated will not be happy with you
- LeftCoaster

lol

1) Gretzky
2) Orr
3) Lemieux
- LeftCoaster

Gretzky
Howe
Lemieux
Orr

Absurd that after 3 years retired Howe played another 6 season in the WHA putting up another 500 points before returning to put up 41 points in the NHL as a 51-year old

Flagged.
- Marwood

great work! Gaunce haters won't be tolerated around here

great work! Gaunce haters won't be tolerated around here
- CanuckDon

- Codes1087

That smirk at the end gave me the creeps

That smirk at the end gave me the creeps
- WhiteLie

"I am going to steal your 1st line center spot soon" is what he was thinking

One more cup and you could really make the argument of Crosby passing Lemieux and Gretzky on the GOAT lists. Hell you could even make that argument now considering what Crosby has accomplished in this era.

We will never see another hockey player as pure as Bobby Orr. Ever. Regardless of era, equipment…whatever…he just had all the tools magnificently. The ultimate compete player so to speak.
- LordHumungous

Yeah it super tough to score back in the day when the goalies took up so much of the net and of course the state of the art equipment....

Okay you didn't like Quinton and said Jack was better but that didn't sound like you were high on him. Classic was talking next Mcdavid, are you now impressed to say that?
- Nuck4U

Would be hearing more about him if he was the next generational player.

Nolan foote is playing CHL hockey.

Jack played midget AAA. Will see how Jack does in the US 17 development program.

Still 2 years away from being drafted. Lots can change.

great work! Gaunce haters won't be tolerated around here
- CanuckDon

Somewhere, sometime, someone had mentioned that Gaunce might score if he wasn't playing with the likes of Megma and Chapoo.

Being so defensively responsible. I think he should play Wing for the twins. They can help anyone score. They also really need help in their own zone.

- Codes1087

Holding out not to sign to get call from WD to captain team Canada. Just need that injury recovery to settle in to clear first.

Then it's Fire and Fury for Korea

Yeah it super tough to score back in the day when the goalies took up so much of the net and of course the state of the art equipment....




- Brooks_Light

I understand his point that Orr had the hockey attributes to succeed, he was fundamentally an excellent player but I agree that era's always need to be considered. Its not just the equipment, but the knowledge of the game has far exceeded the top players in bygone eras

Isn't that what we're doing with Horvat, because if he doesn't grow beyond a 20 goal 50 point forward, then.....

I'm going to go with the likelyhood that Schneider could have handled more and continued to perform, you can go with the fact that Horvat is going to improve (but not to the point he'll be a bonafide 1C).... deal?
- PensWin87

What did you get for Fleury again? We actually got more for Luongo

Would be hearing more about him if he was the next generational player.

Nolan foote is playing CHL hockey.

Jack played midget AAA. Will see how Jack does in the US 17 development program.

Still 2 years away from being drafted. Lots can change.
- manvanfan

Yes. That's the thing about these kids so much changes year to year with development. I wonder of the early notables for 2018 draft how many will be at the top. It's the year where there game gets broken down to find flaws.

But still going with #DialingItIn4Dahlin and #StickingIt4Svechnikov
The above is lotto win approved

I understand his point that Orr had the hockey attributes to succeed, he was fundamentally an excellent player but I agree that era's always need to be considered. Its not just the equipment, but the knowledge of the game has far exceeded the top players in bygone eras
- WhiteLie

Yeah exactly, don't get me wrong Orr was a beauty, but you HAVE to consider that when the guy flew in on a breakaway and looked up to find about 60% of the net open and the goalies wearing an oven mitt, a baseball glove and the Sears Wish list catalog around his shins, things were slightly different.

Yeah exactly, don't get me wrong Orr was a beauty, but you HAVE to consider that when the guy flew in on a breakaway and looked up to find about 60% of the net open and the goalies wearing an oven mitt, a baseball glove and the Sears Wish list catalog around his shins, things were slightly different.
- Brooks_Light

Even ignoring era differences in equipment, conditioning, and influx of top talent from around the world, I think about how players are just smarter. Guys are better at angling, reading plays and defensive positions. Goaltenders work relentlessly to understand their angles and positioning to hide more of the net and make easier saves. I dont recall seeing many old time videos where a goalie was ever on the top of his crease

Even ignoring era differences in equipment, conditioning, and influx of top talent from around the world, I think about how players are just smarter. Guys are better at angling, reading plays and defensive positions. Goaltenders work relentlessly to understand their angles and positioning to hide more of the net and make easier saves. I dont recall seeing many old time videos where a goalie was ever on the top of his crease
- WhiteLie

This all points to why era to era comparables are so hard to make. Pick any theme and knowhow, tech and other advancements change the canvass. Maybe for hockey it's best to say what did this player do in his era that was so far above then his peirs and if he changed the way the game was played.