As a PA boy who relocated years ago I was always a fan of "Dutch" Daulton. That 1993 Phillies team is my favorite of all time and I've been around a long time. It was like watching a beer league softball team, and Dutch was there leader. Thanks for the memories. RIP "Dutch."

Fetisov, Larionov, and Murphy were big contributors that year (Murphy for the playoffs). So yes, they drafted most of them, but those were some big pieces they added.
- jmatchett383

Those guys were generally viewed as spent forces and DET picked them up pretty cheap and they plugged in and played great. I seem to recall Murphy being pretty well booed out of TOR.

Can you describe this a little more? What exactly did Jagr do to eat up defenders that Jake doesn't do?
- YuenglingJagr

His soul ate up defenders; something that a soulless ginger couldn't possibly ever do.

Can you describe this a little more? What exactly did Jagr do to eat up defenders that Jake doesn't do?
- YuenglingJagr

I don't know.

I thought Voracek got better after Jagr left. Voracek seems to do a solid job of shileding off defenders.

Status post a 6 hour exam, straight through. Exciting.

As a PA boy who relocated years ago I was always a fan of "Dutch" Daulton. That 1993 Phillies team is my favorite of all time and I've been around a long time. It was like watching a beer league softball team, and Dutch was there leader. Thanks for the memories. RIP "Dutch."
- Barbecued Hockey

Did he die of cancer or was it something else? Nothing I've read is clear on that.

Nvm - just found an article that said his cancer did return.

Status post a 6 hour exam, straight through. Exciting.
- Giroux_Is_God

Hang in there amigo!

Those guys were generally viewed as spent forces and DET picked them up pretty cheap and they plugged in and played great. I seem to recall Murphy being pretty well booed out of TOR.
- fls13

Larionov was viewed as spent? He had just put up 24 points in 33 games in the 94/95 shortened season before being traded. Murphy may not have been liked, but he had just put up 61 points for Toronto the year before (and had 39 when traded). Fetisov, yeah, he looked just about done.

Yeah, they all had a bit of a resurgence, but Murphy and Larionov were still playing at good levels.

Did he die of cancer or was it something else? Nothing I've read is clear on that.
- Scoob

Yeah, brain cancer.

Just put a nice 6" long gash on my arm drilling a hole in a sheet metal box when it kicked on me. Yay my day!

I think the model we all want to hope for with Giroux is that his path follows Steve Yzerman's with DET. In the late 80s and into the 90s, he was a elite scorer but the Wings weren't good enough around him for them to go anywhere and were never serious contenders while he was at the top of his scoring game. Fortunately for DET fans, as Yzerman's numbers faded, the team was built up and he was able to be a different kind of contributor to three cup winners in his 30s.

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- fls13

There were a bunch of reasons for that, one was that scoring rate in the league declined. Also Yzerman chose to remake his game and become more of a complete player rather than just an offensive player. I think it was more of a choice than a necessity.

His soul ate up defenders; something that a soulless ginger couldn't possibly ever do.
- arichardson22

Just put a nice 6" long gash on my arm drilling a hole in a sheet metal box when it kicked on me. Yay my day!
- jmatchett383

Was bleeding out worth typing this post?

There were a bunch of reasons for that, one was that scoring rate in the league declined. Also Yzerman chose to remake his game and become more of a complete player rather than just an offensive player. I think it was more of a choice than a necessity.
- MJL

Same for Fedorov, maybe the most complete player I've ever seen. Both of them sacrificed their scoring numbers to make the team better.

Was bleeding out worth typing this post?
- YuenglingJagr

It's Hockeybuzz, nothing else matters.

I love it that Ek is reporting on the teams looking at add the great Scottie Upshall.

I love it that Ek is reporting on the teams looking at add the great Scottie Upshall.
- jmatchett383

I never got why so many people gushed about that guy when he was here and when he left.

Larionov was viewed as spent? He had just put up 24 points in 33 games in the 94/95 shortened season before being traded. Murphy may not have been liked, but he had just put up 61 points for Toronto the year before (and had 39 when traded). Fetisov, yeah, he looked just about done.
- jmatchett383

Larionov played the best NHL hockey of his career pretty late in DET. He didn't play well in VAN and did have one really good year in SJ when the Sharks actually upset DET in the playoffs in 94. At the time, the additions of the two vet Russians to go with the fine three they had drafted was viewed as an experiment, not a bold move to put them over the top.

I love it that Ek is reporting on the teams looking at add the great Scottie Upshall.
- jmatchett383

I am still waiting on the Habs/Flyers trade. For all the stuff he posted these past 2 days you would think he would have more Intel.

I love it that Ek is reporting on the teams looking at add the great Scottie Upshall.
- jmatchett383

Sweet mother of Hell how old is he, 57?

Im sure there is some WIP fan out there crying we should trade Giroux for Upshall.

Just put a nice 6" long gash on my arm drilling a hole in a sheet metal box when it kicked on me. Yay my day!
- jmatchett383

Are you going to need stitches?

'Cause you know who likes stitches?

Otherwise, it's not a gash, it's a scratch.

Same for Fedorov, maybe the most complete player I've ever seen. Both of them sacrificed their scoring numbers to make the team better.
- jmatchett383

Fedorov was a dominant player at both ends of the ice.

It's Hockeybuzz, nothing else matters.
- jmatchett383

Say hi to Mordecai

I love it that Ek is reporting on the teams looking at add the great Scottie Upshall.
- jmatchett383

Can you imagine Hextall if it became known that a "Flyer player" was texting Ek about player personnel rumors like Ek claims to be getting from the Sabres?

I would imagine there would be full on goalie stick slashing to the back of said players legs......

I never got why so many people gushed about that guy when he was here and when he left.
- Scoob

Right player in the right place at the right time. He had some jump and was enthusiastic and could finish a little. He came in late in the year they finished dead last but late in that year they'd also brought in Coburn and Biron already and the team was starting to play decently. Upshall represented hope.