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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Part of me thinks Claude turns his game around and is able to get that separation he's been accustomed to having since he came into the league. A 70-90 point campaign would be fantastic.

If he is to remain struggling with match-ups and production, particularly at even strength, then that's where concern sets in considering his contract.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
Off-topic, but from tsn:

Tiger Woods has agreed to plead guilty to reckless driving and will enter a diversion program that will allow him to have his record wiped clean if he completes the program, a prosecutor said Wednesday.

I'm glad that you're allowed to have a DUI but face no fines and have nothing on your record as long as you attend some classes.

Edit: It carries a $250 fine.

- jmatchett383


Rules are just for regular middle class and under folk.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
As fans we have a right to be unhappy with their performance sure but there is definitely a line that is constantly crossed on a daily basis and to some extent unfair bias as well. Look at most players in the big markets. A lot of these players get unfairly trashed. Kessel is a great example, the guy is treated worse than garbage and there is no justifiable reason why. As much as I hate Pittsburgh given the fact they are our mortal enemy, I am glad Kessel has won a cup after leaving T.O. Phaneuf is another guy. As some other people are, I am worried G is declining but the guy has been steller for the Flyers and despite the Decline he still had good numbers despite the drop.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



My obligation is to the Flyers. if he isn't contributing then I have a right not to be happy.

Off the ice they are people and i would only treat them with respect like anyone else.

but on the ice I am allowed to be unhappy with performance and express it if i want. Also i don't live in the past. Yes. Giroux has done some good things but right now he has shown a decline.

the only thing that I believe saves a player is if they have a cup because it can bring some leeway when in decline.

I hope he recovers and has a great season because that can only help the Flyers. I am not rooting for failure.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'd turn that babe that was with Upshall down! Not lowering my standards.
- MJL


lol!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
Rules are just for regular middle class and under folk.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Sadly, according to the article...this is actually an allowable rule in Florida, not just an upper class/celebrity case.

BiggE, watch out on your next trip to the Keys.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
If I made the laws, a DUI (a true DUI, not the under-21 rule) would carry a one year loss of license and 7 days jail time minimum. A second offense would mean you can never drive again and 3 months in jail minimum.
- jmatchett383


First time - one year jail time
Second time - five years jail time, never drive again
Third time - life in jail
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
Sadly, according to the article...this is actually an allowable rule in Florida, not just an upper class/celebrity case.

BiggE, watch out on your next trip to the Keys.

- jmatchett383



Florida has some weird laws.

Also their stand your ground law is very open to what feeling threaten is.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
If I made the laws, a DUI (a true DUI, not the under-21 rule) would carry a one year loss of license and 7 days jail time minimum. A second offense would mean you can never drive again and 3 months in jail minimum.
- jmatchett383


A DUI should be even stricter than that. Same goes with Distracted driving. You put other people's lives at risk. People dont obey rules because 1) They arent strict enough and 2) They arent enforced consistently. A lot of the fines are nothing to a lot of people and people constantly get away with it. If you speed, you get away with it 90% of the time, We have a HOV lane but majority of people just drive in it anyways. You see maybe 2-3 Police vehicles on the major highway PER month.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Aug 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
Oh, I know. Fans boo players of every team in every city. Sometimes I'm one of them.

I have been brought to my feat to boo this team over the past few seasons and they've deserved it, Giroux included.

I've watched hockey long enough in my life to know when a player doesn't think he has it on a given night and packs it in. I've seen this team in particular do it all too often over the past several years and I've seen the captain do it far too many times for my liking. I hate the swirling drain that too often becomes a come from in front loss with this incarnation of the Flyers.

I'm still a fan of the team and the player but if I'm boxing out 3 to 6 hours of my day to watch/pay for them to compete and they don't than everyone can listen to me complain about it for a few minutes. If you're a Flyer's player and you look in the stands and I'm wearing your colours and I'm booing you as a player you should take that to heart.

Booing is the line for me though. I don't do it often but I do it with feeling.

Until they start throwing out the idiots who bang on the glass in their $150 seats I'll reserve that right.

- mayorofangrytown



I freaking love that line!!! So true. So spot on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
lol!
- Scoob



This is how I choose my women!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
First time - one year jail time
Second time - five years jail time, never drive again
Third time - life in jail

- Scoob

Think of all the new jobs you'll create building prisons.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
As a life long philly sports fan, 45 years, saying some fans are classless is no shocker. Booing someones child makes you the lowest form of trash IMO. The Santa Clause B.S doesn't bother me because that story is so twisted to make it worse its not funny. Sports fans in general are becoming more and more of a bunch of idiots than ever, but there are some of us who can go watch a sporting event without acting like a drunk parasite.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
Think of all the new jobs you'll create building prisons.
- mayorofangrytown


Nah, make space by letting out the non-violent low-level drug offenders
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
This is how I choose my women!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

- MJL


LOL!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
Part of me thinks Claude turns his game around and is able to get that separation he's been accustomed to having since he came into the league. A 70-90 point campaign would be fantastic.

If he is to remain struggling with match-ups and production, particularly at even strength, then that's where concern sets in considering his contract.

- Pixote Andolini

lol that 70-90 point range
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
First time - one year jail time
Second time - five years jail time, never drive again
Third time - life in jail

- Scoob

lack of hard labor camps is upsetting
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
I'd turn that babe that was with Upshall down! Not lowering my standards.
- MJL

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
Just put a nice 6" long gash on my arm drilling a hole in a sheet metal box when it kicked on me. Yay my day!
- jmatchett383

Sheesh dude. How many stitches? That's exciting.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:37 PM ET

- Mononoke

I don't understand. I'm trying very hard.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
Sheesh dude. How many stitches? That's exciting.
- Giroux_Is_God

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'm 100% certain it's not me. I'll go with MJL. Dude probably makes Fabio look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, aka me

lol

- Scoob

Well ya boi is the only one who's worn a tinfoil hat soooooo
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:45 PM ET


Here are some cats for good luck

- Mordecai

Ty

Hopefully I'll have results by Friday
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
Sheesh dude. How many stitches? That's exciting.
- Giroux_Is_God


$Texas
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
First time - one year jail time
Second time - five years jail time, never drive again
Third time - life in jail

- Scoob


In PA the first one the police are like hey man don't do that again. Classes, fine and loss of license for 30 days. Any subsequent infractions they get after you pretty good. I think that is the way to handle it. Learn your lesson or become a repeat offender.

Also, if you cause any property damage or harm a living thing you should do real time regardless of how many you have.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
Nah, make space by letting out the non-violent low-level drug offenders
- Scoob

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