Boucher Rodin Granlund Baertschi Goldobin .Pick Two
- VANTEL

3 of the 5 have the soft label but are full of skill and speed. Can't hit what eludes you with the puck. The other two bring talent lacking in plugs like Megna and Chaput. So all 5 could conceivably be on the roster if TG is looking for 4 lines that are fast and can score. Sprinkle in a JV and Guddy for hits and it holds the fort from being knocked out.

You need some talent for the next 5 years not one . There is nothing wrong with bringing in a Sam Gagner type contract . Again one year Hank is not possible it has to be Hank and Danny
- VANTEL

I like the Gagner signing...you are always proposing signings like Tavares-turris-Bailey etc. they would be massive mistakes in my opinion

3 of the 5 have the soft label but are full of skill and speed. Can't hit what eludes you with the puck. The other two bring talent lacking in plugs like Megna and Chaput. So all 5 could conceivably be on the roster if TG is looking for 4 lines that are fast and can score. Sprinkle in a JV and Guddy for hits and it holds the fort from being knocked out.
- Nuck4U

I like Granlund and I like Goldobin . Sven has to show me more this year but if he does have a good year then keep it at 3 not 5 or 7

I like the Gagner signing...you are always proposing signings like Tavares-turris-Bailey etc. they would be massive mistakes in my opinion
- CanuckDon

It wasn't me who was saying Bailey. I admit I don't have a problem with Turris or Tavares (whom is very unlikely)

I would choose either over Eriksson

Boucher Rodin Granlund Baertschi Goldobin .Pick Two
- VANTEL

Nope, cus I don't think like that. I see promise in Sven and Granlund. The other two I just don't know yet.

You kinda speak in absolutes, as if you know the outcome of these guys and their futures, and I simply disagree with that. Guys like Gaunce, Chaput, Megna, Dorsett, have been given a shot and I don't wish to see anymore of them. Guys like Boucher, Goldobin, Rodin, Molino, I wanna see them - at least - get the same shot, before we decide their fate.

You're probably right and surely some of these guys won't work out but lets see after say 40-50 games.

On the Vancouver Canucks …

NHL Prospect Watch: Dennis Bernstein was on TSN 690 and said that he thinks the chances of the Canucks trading Henrik and Daniel Sedin at the trade deadline are greater than 50 percent.


- LeftCoaster

lol that guy is a total knob. Obviously doesnt know squat about the team.

Where do they come up with this nonsense?

I like Granlund and I like Goldobin . Sven has to show me more this year but if he does have a good year then keep it at 3 not 5 or 7
- VANTEL

It's all fine and good. You keep who works out the best.

The good thing about a team not in playoff contention is that you can try out these skill and speed guy's who might be too soft for playoff hockey. They bring more entertainment and trade value over the plugs who just grind out close games.

Nope, cus I don't think like that. I see promise in Sven and Granlund. The other two I just don't know yet.

You kinda speak in absolutes, as if you know the outcome of these guys and their futures, and I simply disagree with that. Guys like Gaunce, Chaput, Megna, Dorsett, have been given a shot and I don't wish to see anymore of them. Guys like Boucher, Goldobin, Rodin, Molino, I wanna see them - at least - get the same shot, before we decide their fate.

You're probably right and surely some of these guys won't work out but lets see after say 40-50 games.
- Brooks_Light

Teams that are making progress have a good mix of skill , toughness , agitation, size and much much more. As I stated you can't have a team of Mason Raymonds.

A guy like Dorsett does and will have value at TDL if he can stay healthy . You need a Maroon or Komorov . We are sending out a bunch of clones that will keep us in the bottom.

Hey losers our boat got 2nd place in the JDF derby

It's all fine and good. You keep who works out the best.

The good thing about a team not in playoff contention is that you can try out the skill and speed guy's who might be too soft for playoff hockey. They bring more entertainment and trade value over the plugs who just grind out close games.
- Nuck4U

I did not find last year very entertaining at all. For the first time I found myself falling asleep during games and it was not because of age.

My top 10 highlights last year was

1 Bo's 20 th
2 Bo's first fight
3 Huttons first fight
4 Gudbrandson v Martn
5 Boeser's first goal
6 Goldobins first goal
7 Hansen v Kadri
8 nothing
9 nothing
10 nothing

That's it

Teams that are making progress have a good mix of skill , toughness , agitation, size and much much more. As I stated you can't have a team of Mason Raymonds.

A guy like Dorsett does and will have value at TDL if he can stay healthy . You need a Maroon or Komorov . We are sending out a bunch of clones that will keep us in the bottom.
- VANTEL

It is more rare and does take time to develop a power forward like JV or Gadjovich. So looking to develop value in the skill forwards the you have now to trade others later isn't a bad move.

I did not find last year very entertaining at all. For the first time I found myself falling asleep during games and it was not because of age.
- VANTEL

They didn't have those skill guys last year they had plugs like Megna, Chaput and Skille playing with the slow Sedins.

They didn't have those skill guys last year they had plugs like Megna, Chaput and Skille playing with the slow Sedins.
- Nuck4U

You consider Boucher Rodin Sven skill guys I don't

Teams that are making progress have a good mix of skill , toughness , agitation, size and much much more. As I stated you can't have a team of Mason Raymonds.

A guy like Dorsett does and will have value at TDL if he can stay healthy . You need a Maroon or Komorov . We are sending out a bunch of clones that will keep us in the bottom.
- VANTEL

yeah but we don't have much of a choice do we? Guys like JV, McEwen, Gadjovich aren't ready yet. So lets keep Dorsett in so he can keep skating down the ice at full speed then falling down right before he attempts to hit someone, or missing the net with shots, or losing fights, or not scoring - all the things he does best.

Or we could continue to send in Gaunce, Chaput and Megna to fill the net and lay the body. I do agree that we have a bunch of Mason Raymonds, its just a matter of which Mason do you want? Mason Gaunce or Mason Boucher? I'll take Bouchers 5 goals in 27 games in a heartbeat and i'll take Mason Goldobin over Mason Megna too....

You consider Boucher Rodin Sven skill guys I don't
- VANTEL

They're not lumberjacks

It's not about keeping all of them just working up value to trade off some. You get better value from them then a Gaunce or DD. Won't insult it with Chaput or Megna.

Then it all makes room for the longer term developing guys. Or if able sign a young power forward like Kane as it takes time and luck to trade or develop one.

yeah but we don't have much of a choice do we? Guys like JV, McEwen, Gadjovich aren't ready yet. So lets keep Dorsett in so he can keep skating down the ice at full speed then falling down right before he attempts to hit someone, or missing the net with shots, or losing fights, or not scoring - all the things he does best.

Or we could continue to send in Gaunce, Chaput and Megna to fill the net and lay the body. I do agree that we have a bunch of Mason Raymonds, its just a matter of which Mason do you want? Mason Gaunce or Mason Boucher? I'll take Bouchers 5 goals in 27 games in a heartbeat and i'll take Mason Goldobin over Mason Megna too....
- Brooks_Light

I think JV will come to camp in shape . I think JV or Labate on LW and Burmistrov and Dorsett as your fourth line. Gaunce Rodin Megna Chaput or Boucher have to win a spot .

Boeser 7th on the Calder list of kids with a chance. If he can score around 8 PP goals he's got a chance at 20. Four goals in 9 games is pretty good. If he picks up a step this summer he could surprise a few people.

I like what Minnesota did with Joel Eriksson-Ek, they let him soak for two years after they drafted him and I expect him to have a good year for them as 3C. I know Vantel wanted to throw our first rounder next year into the fire but I think that'd be a mistake.....personally.

Unless they earn it of course and they have the body to withstand an NHL season. Or they're of the Stamkos/Tavares/McDavid/Matthews ilk?
- LeftCoaster

I envision 20 goals min but will say 24.
As for Minny they r in adifferent position going for the brass ring.
Our prospect pool has only begun but i agree Minny is doing well in that regard.
I don't foresee us playing prospects unless out of nexessity & prolly not at that.

They're not lumberjacks

It's not about keeping all of them just working up value to trade off some. You get better value from them then a Gaunce or DD. Won't insult it with Chaput or Megna.

Then it all makes room for the longer term developing guys. Or if able sign a young power forward like Kane as it takes time and luck to trade or develop one.
- Nuck4U

To get better value from them you must keep them so this is not correct

Henrik said in a recent interview injuries were an issue, to which I somewhat agree, however, the biggest problem was a pure and simple lack of talent. When Henrik has the highest average ice-time followed by Eriksson, Brandon Sutter and then Daniel you have issues.
- LeftCoaster

Lack of talent i'll give u that but depth was a bigger issue.
Til a line truly supplants the Sedins we r still rebuilding.
By that Bo & others must keep improving & other prospects develop.
The Sedins will be here to insulate for awhile yet maybe for 1-2 yrs after this season at most IMO. Now if prospects fasttrak then we will see them retire.

Goldobin has already spent two years in the AHL and could easily score 15 goals like Daniel last year playing on a third line making a lot less money .He can't though because we are too busy honoring Danny boy and using up a roster spot so we can finish bottom 3
- VANTEL

I've said it may times that Daniel is holding us back.
Hank has game for a few years with better & faster wingers.
Truly believe that they become individuals & not twins on a year to year basis.
We r deep on the wing & Daniel is in the way.

You consider Boucher Rodin Sven skill guys I don't
- VANTEL

Sven is VERY skilled. Others I don't care about

It will be interesting to see if Green has the balls to drop the Sedins to 2nd and 3rd line minutes if they are under performing. We just need to stop catering to and pampering them…then a lot of these kids we are trying to develop can shift away from the Country Club.
- LordHumungous

I thnk Green is his own man & will do what is needed.
As for catering to the Sedins it insulated Bo's line to let them grow.
Pampering is off base when they r Pros & in condition & lead by example.
We can prolly see a more diverse approach this season & for sure the following season.

Sven is VERY skilled. Others I don't care about
- CanuckDon

I hear you . I am just not there yet. I am really on the fence with him . If he comes out this year and buries 20-25 then he is a top 6 guy . If he comes out and gets 13-17 then he is a third liner like Raymond.

This is a show me year for him.

I hear you . I am just not there yet. I am really on the fence with him . If he comes out this year and buries 20-25 then he is a top 6 guy . If he comes out and gets 13-17 then he is a third liner like Raymond.

This is a show me year for him.
- VANTEL

I agree this is a huge year for him...If he doesn't solidify his spot as a top 6 forward this year it won't be because of skill it will be because of a lack of heart/ grit

Ok, you want to discuss a Sedin trade, let's go. Where do you see them going and what's your projected return ?
- CanuckDon

They have said they will retire before going ANYWHERE.
Now to go for any trade i can see us eating 1/2 their contracts.
A 1st 2nd & prospect comes our way. To who depends on the TDL position of only a few teams maybe teams like FLA or Ottawa or other bubble teams that might think they r close CBJ or NYI possibly idk.