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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 5:57 PM ET
Blackhawks, Red Wings Not Pursuing Will Butcher

Buffalo, New Jersey and Vegas, columbus have contacted Butcher. Pretty weak list for a hobby baker winner.

- manvanfan


No one wants Matt Gilroy 2.0
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 5:57 PM ET
No it doesn't.
- LeftCoaster


you just posted how important it was to get a Hedman type for Canucks. So how do you see Canucks are less desperate for top D over C next draft? Don't give the simplistic build team through top C as an answer. Be specific.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
Hmm did Pens win out..?

Where is the buzz over JB signing one of these NCAA free agents?

- Nuck4U


You want a buzz drink some beer ....it's august and no one cares about signing future ahl players
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 17 @ 6:02 PM ET
You want a buzz drink some beer ....it's august and no one cares about signing future ahl players
- Redmile247

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:03 PM ET
you just posted how important it was to get a Hedman type for Canucks. So how do you see Canucks are less desperate for top D over C next draft. Don't give the simplistic build team through top C as an answer. Be specific.
- Nuck4U

It doesn't make next draft less desperate for a center because Pettersson and Gaudette aren't playing in the NHL next year so you have no idea if they'll be good or not. You still need a top center, a high-end skilled center to compete in the future. You also need a number one dman but I guess it depends on who's ranked higher and who you figure is the best player available.

If a defenceman is ranked number one and you're picking number one, you take him, if it's a center, you take him. Either way, Pettersson and Gaudette have no bearing on next year's draft because they're still an unknown.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:03 PM ET
You want a buzz drink some beer ....it's august and no one cares about signing future ahl players
- Redmile247


Nuck fans do because it's all about building up the Comets no one cares to hear from Flames fans
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
Nuck fans do because it's all about building up the Comets no one cares to hear from Flames fans
- Nuck4U


This is not accurate

Fabricated lies it is
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
It doesn't make next draft less desperate for a center because Pettersson and Gaudette aren't playing in the NHL next year so you have no idea if they'll be good or not. You still need a top center, a high-end skilled center to compete in the future. You also need a number one dman but I guess it depends on who's ranked higher and who you figure is the best player available.

If a defenceman is ranked number one and you're picking number one, you take him, if it's a center, you take him. Either way, Pettersson and Gaudette have no bearing on next year's draft because they're still an unknown.

- LeftCoaster


Agree they are and by that account so is OJ who is now the only option for top D. As you know they take longer to develop.

Going with present rankings you got Dahlin and Svetchikov as #1. Do Canucks take the D with your 1st pick?

So let's go with top 5 players scenario where they are grouped pretty close. No one has a clear #ed ranking. Who do you take?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
Outside of what Bo wants, because he obviously will have a say in the outcome, I think it comes down to whether people think this season was a fluke. I understand the concern of regression, sign short term to prove consistency. I am of the side that thinks he is a safe bet.

Not that these stats are really related but people do like to associate point production with cap hits... Bo finished at a tie for 83rd in points, and according to CapFriendly the 100th highest cap hit this past season was $5.5m, and next season it is $5.7m. Top 150 for this past year was $4.85m and next year its $5.0m... If contracts continue to rise a $5.5m hit should be reasonable especially if he solidifies himself as a top 150 player

- WhiteLie



I don't think this season was a fluke. I think it was progression. What I don't know is what is Bo's ceiling. If this is it then he is a nice player but not a 5.5 mil player.

I think he has more to give but before giving out a long term high priced contract I want to be positive.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:09 PM ET

- CanuckDon


Jays

Wait ....



Jays
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
English much? Without a comma that's confusing
- LeftCoaster

sometimes, I, don't really care; see.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
I don't think this season was a fluke. I think it was progression. What I don't know is what is Bo's ceiling. If this is it then he is a nice player but not a 5.5 mil player.

I think he has more to give but before giving out a long term high priced contract I want to be positive.

- VANTEL


It doesn't matter what Bo gets it will be reasonable and everyone will argue about it
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
This is not accurate

Fabricated lies it is

- Redmile247


Really now... can't wait for the cries of Flames support and interest on this Canuck thread
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
Since when? Horvat is just a building block, I think it's total nonsense to say they're building around him. IMO they're simply just continuing with the building process and he's an important piece of that but hardly good enough to build around.

Bo Horvat is looking like a good player, but he's not a franchise player.

- LeftCoaster

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 17 @ 6:12 PM ET
Jays

Wait ....



Jays

- Redmile247

Donaldson with two more bombs so far
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Yes they are and by that account so is OJ who is now the only option for top D. As you know they take longer to develop.

Going with present rankings you got Dahlin and Svetchikov as #1. Do Canucks take the D with your 1st pick?

So let's go with top 5 scenario where they are grouped pretty close. Who do you take?

- Nuck4U

Can't answer that, I don't know where they'll actual pick and who's left on the floor. As I said, if they pick #1 and Dahlin is the top rated kid, you take him. If they're picking #3 and those two are gone, you take the next best kid....Veleno perhaps.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:15 PM ET
sometimes, I, don't really care; see.
- manvanfan

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
3 years away from being 3 years away

#TradeHorvatforPicks

- Nucker101

You can't use that every year. based off of how long people have been saying that, it sis 1 year away from being 3 years away.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:17 PM ET
Brandon Saad got 6 million per after a couple 50 point season. Never reached 59 points like Wennberg did.
- manvanfan



I think Saad got a raise to 6 mil before he even played a game for CBJ . Now they have traded him back for cheaper player
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:17 PM ET
You can't use that every year. based off of how long people have been saying that, it sis 1 year away from being 3 years away.
- Retinalz

Four years from making the playoffs is my prediction. If they manage to find at least two kids per draft over that time.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
Really now... can't wait for the cries of Flames support and interest on this Canuck thread
- Nuck4U


Maybe I just think my opinion might mean more than others
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
I think Saad got a raise to 6 mil before he even played a game for CBJ . Now they have traded him back for cheaper player
- VANTEL

Panarin makes 6 million per season also.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Maybe I just think my opinion might mean more than others
- Redmile247


I am probably a better LW than you though
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Donaldson with two more bombs so far
- CanuckDon


Boost time he showed up
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