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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Four years from making the playoffs is my prediction. If they manage to find at least two kids per draft over that time.
- LeftCoaster

I will never let you hear the end of it, when they make the playoffs before 2021.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
I will never let you hear the end of it, when they make the playoffs before 2021.
- manvanfan

Stay off the weed son.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
Can't answer that, I don't know where they'll actual pick and who's left on the floor. As I said, if they pick #1 and Dahlin is the top rated kid, you take him. If they're picking #3 and those two are gone, you take the next best kid....Veleno perhaps.
- LeftCoaster


Let's just say for arguements sake it's Veleno and Dahlin as top two rated. No consensus #1. Usually the case it's a pair/trio without a Mcdavid up for grabs.

Who do you choose for Canucks?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:23 PM ET
It doesn't make next draft less desperate for a center because Pettersson and Gaudette aren't playing in the NHL next year so you have no idea if they'll be good or not. You still need a top center, a high-end skilled center to compete in the future. You also need a number one dman but I guess it depends on who's ranked higher and who you figure is the best player available.

If a defenceman is ranked number one and you're picking number one, you take him, if it's a center, you take him. Either way, Pettersson and Gaudette have no bearing on next year's draft because they're still an unknown.

- LeftCoaster



Its ALWAYS stud D & Elite C in the 1st round. Wingers r for later rounds.
BPA though i'm not a fan of that term. Patience with D is obvious unless its a Hedman at the top of the draft but thats very rare. Never can have enough top C's & both top 2 D & top 1-2 C's are great assets to keep or trade in big deals. A C can play wing & give depth whilst wingers r either 25 goal scorers & better or just here til replaced by the next cost control player.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:23 PM ET
I am probably a better LW than you though
- Codes1087


Just Remember Daniel... just because your first line doesn't mean your elite

Your just a Ned Braden to my Reg Dunlop
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:24 PM ET
Let's just say for arguements sake it's Veleno and Dahlin as top two rated. No consensus #1. Usually the case it's a pair/trio without a Mcdavid up for grabs.

Who do you choose for Canucks?

- Nuck4U

What about the russian?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
What about the russian?
- manvanfan

Dahlin.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
Maybe I just think my opinion might mean more than others
- Redmile247


Can't relate so enjoy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
It doesn't matter what Bo gets it will be reasonable and everyone will argue about it
- Redmile247



He gets what he gets, no use arguing.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
He is the type of defensemen every team needs.
- manvanfan

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
Can't answer that, I don't know where they'll actual pick and who's left on the floor. As I said, if they pick #1 and Dahlin is the top rated kid, you take him. If they're picking #3 and those two are gone, you take the next best kid....Veleno perhaps.
- LeftCoaster



Ok i circle back to BPA or top rated kid...
Rated by who? Only list that matters is JB's.
Patrick to the Flyers was an automatic as was Makar to the Av's.
Nearly every other pick is arguable when ppl choose their own list.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
What about the russian?
- manvanfan


Already mentioned Svetchnikov as there. Let's just keep him as the other option on the spokes of choice. Just wanted the answer for what's better for Canucks. Concentrating on the top D or C choice of equally ranked top players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
Panarin makes 6 million per season also.
- manvanfan



CB paying another guy 6 mil that has never played for them
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:32 PM ET
Four years from making the playoffs is my prediction. If they manage to find at least two kids per draft over that time.
- LeftCoaster



Given the time line on prospects thats probably about right.
Stranger things have happened & we could be a PO team in 2yrs at best.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:34 PM ET
Maybe I just think my opinion might mean more than others
- Redmile247


i like your opinion
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:34 PM ET
Maybe I just think my opinion might mean more than others
- Redmile247

Good to see you, Red.

Certainly better than a few Canuck posters. Have you had a coffee yet?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:35 PM ET
i like your opinion
- SRam19


I like Red also .
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
Take the center every time. A true number 1 defenseman is very hard to come by and #2, #3 types will be more than sufficient to be a cup winner.

Veleno Tkachuk at centre and lots of good defenseman available later in draft. McIsaac, Samuelsson as 2 quick examples of solid defensemen available this draft. Many more available.
Also, depends how you define a true #1, if you look at points only then players like Barrie and Shattenkirk are #1's, not imo though as they are huge liabilities on the defensive side of things. They need to be able to play in all situations.
Hedman is a perfect example of one of the best young #1 defensemen in the league, if not the best.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:40 PM ET
Next draft we go for Dahlin for need if he is there even at 1OA.
Svechnikov is a great intrigue but not a fan of picking a winger high in the 1st generally speaking. In the case Dahlin is gone & we can pick him I'd seriously think on a big trade & move down a few spots. If that got us say a top 5 plus a top prospect or 2-1sts & maybe more that would be my aim. The question is who we trade with & what we target or we could simply take Svechnikov while trading assets as in Sven or more for more picks/prospects. Winger logjam is nice but quality or quantity will be nicer in the long run.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:41 PM ET
Let's just say for arguements sake it's Veleno and Dahlin as top two rated. No consensus #1. Usually the case it's a pair/trio without a Mcdavid up for grabs.

Who do you choose for Canucks?

- Nuck4U

Can't answer because I haven't seen enough of the two to say who I truly think is the better player.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:42 PM ET
Ok i circle back to BPA or top rated kid...
Rated by who? Only list that matters is JB's.
Patrick to the Flyers was an automatic as was Makar to the Av's.
Nearly every other pick is arguable when ppl choose their own list.

- Nighthawk

By the person who's picking, of course.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:44 PM ET
Bullpen giving up another lead.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:45 PM ET
Can't answer because I haven't seen enough of the two to say who I truly think is the better player.
- LeftCoaster


In this scenario just say both equally top rated player who would be a star 1C or 1D in the NHL. Given what the Canucks have who do you choose?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:45 PM ET
Bullpen giving up another lead.
- manvanfan

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 17 @ 6:46 PM ET
Take the center every time. A true number 1 defenseman is very hard to come by and #2, #3 types will be more than sufficient to be a cup winner.

Veleno Tkachuk at centre and lots of good defenseman available later in draft. McIsaac, Samuelsson as 2 quick examples of solid defensemen available this draft. Many more available.
Also, depends how you define a true #1, if you look at points only then players like Barrie and Shattenkirk are #1's, not imo though as they are huge liabilities on the defensive side of things. They need to be able to play in all situations.
Hedman is a perfect example of one of the best young #1 defensemen in the league, if not the best.

- Reubenkincade



Agree if an elite C is in the draft but idk if a Draisaitl is there next draft.
I ignore a McDavid or Matthews of course since Veleno appears to be the early favourite. Need to see him more this season to better gauge him. Thachuk is a curiosity bit on all accounts his skating holds him back but if he is a BO type hard worker that could be ignored somewhat. So much depends on where we pick & who is there but we will be looking good to add another serious piece.
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