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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:00 PM ET
This response doesn't explain what part of my post was wrong. Like you and I said you accumulate top picks.
- Nuck4U

I guess I'm so used to you being wrong it's just a natural instinct?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
My take on our predicament is very obvious...

Need EP & Gaudette to go along with BO to be playmakers for our wingers.
Biggest hole is a threat on D but thats a problem for many teams.
No PP big shot or PP QB is our achilles heal & drawing penalties as well.

A Dahlin would go along ways to filling that need we've had forever.
If not him then idk who is next best Boqvist or who?
OJ might be a solid PP QB but his shot is still suspect.

Other than BB all our other wingers require service to make them click.
JV & Gads bring other dimensions that will help out eventually.

I have no probs in our future goaltending prospects nor our pipeline depth that continues to get deeper. What i have a problem with is our D overall cannot score & is at the root of us being years away from being contenders again.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Aug 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
@lefty

Eriksson Horvat Boeser
Baertchi Granlund Gagne

Sedins are not in the top 6 this year.

- thundachunk

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
Shipachov a 30yr old unproven stop gap as 1C.... say no more.
- Nighthawk

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 7:37 PM ET
S7‏ @S7HDesign Aug 19

S7 Retweeted David Staples
Would Nuge be a good fit for VAN? And does VAN have any assets that EDM want? Might be no for both


Someone reads HockeyBuzz
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 7:49 PM ET
Still fixated on possible fits for Tanev...

Sens for Colin White plus a 3rd maybe
Avs for Makar plus a lil sweetener
Wings for 1st/3rd
Sabres Reinhart maybe

Idk just random guesses & up for intense scrutiny 😜
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 7:50 PM ET
Still fixated on possible fits for Tanev...

Sens for Colin White plus a 3rd maybe
Avs for Makar plus a lil sweetener
Wings for 1st/3rd
Sabres Reinhart maybe

Idk just random guesses & up for intense scrutiny 😜

- Nighthawk

Tanev doesn't get you Makar
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 7:53 PM ET
#Vancouver Police are responding to Olympic Village for reports of a homeless male bathing in the fountain.

What can I tell you the wife kicked me out
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 8:04 PM ET
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
My take on our predicament is very obvious...

Need EP & Gaudette to go along with BO to be playmakers for our wingers.
Biggest hole is a threat on D but thats a problem for many teams.
No PP big shot or PP QB is our achilles heal & drawing penalties as well.

A Dahlin would go along ways to filling that need we've had forever.
If not him then idk who is next best Boqvist or who?
OJ might be a solid PP QB but his shot is still suspect.

Other than BB all our other wingers require service to make them click.
JV & Gads bring other dimensions that will help out eventually.

I have no probs in our future goaltending prospects nor our pipeline depth that continues to get deeper. What i have a problem with is our D overall cannot score & is at the root of us being years away from being contenders again.

- Nighthawk


The recent cup final is a good case study to the importance of offensive D line and the juxtaposition of the two teams.
Nashivlle showed how dominate 4 guys can be.
Pitts proved the exact opposite, with possibly one of the worst D combos ever to win a cup. Meanwhile, they had 4 forwards + goalie/s that won every game.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
Looking at the top six forwards and top four D in our division, how did it manage to get this bad for the Nucks?

Anaheim...

Rakell Getzlaf Perry
Cogliano Kesler Silverberg

Lindholm Manson
Fowler Vatanen

Edmonton...

Maroon McDavid Draisaitl
Lucic RNH Puljujarvi

Klefbom Larsson
Nurse/Russell Benning

San Jose...

Hertl Thornton Pavelski
Boedker Couture Ward

Martin Burns
Vlasic Braun

Calgary...

Ferland Monahan Gaudreau
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik

Giordano Hamilton
Brodie Hamonic

Los Angeles...

Gaborik Kopitar Brown
Toffoli Carter Pearson

Forbort Doughty
Muzzin Martinez

Colorado...

Landeskog MacKinnon Rantanen
Comeau Duchene Compher

Johnson Barrie

Arizona...



Canucks...

Sedin Sedin Grandlund
Baer Horvat Eriksson/Boeser


- LeftCoaster


Drafting guy's like Jake Virtanen at 6
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
Tanev doesn't get you Makar
- CanuckDon


Makar has proven NOTHING yet - he's not even played at the CHL level!!! Let alone the fact that he's 3-4 years away IF he even pans out. He's literally a pipe dream at this point.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
Tanev doesn't get you Makar
- CanuckDon

Or the Wings 1st
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:23 PM ET
Still fixated on possible fits for Tanev...

Sens for Colin White plus a 3rd maybe
Avs for Makar plus a lil sweetener
Wings for 1st/3rd
Sabres Reinhart maybe

Idk just random guesses & up for intense scrutiny 😜

- Nighthawk


If tanev was going to get traded it would of been done before his NTC kicked in, either before the expansion draft or at the draft itself. I know its the dog days of summer but cmon
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:25 PM ET
Drafting guy's like Jake Virtanen at 6
- walshyleafsfan

Fair enough, however, one miss doesn't sink you to an abyss though, where we currently are. Yzerman missed on Brett Connolly at #6 and they're fine. It's the Gillis years that's killing them, not the Benning years, thus far.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:29 PM ET
I think I accidentally hit a flag instead of a quote....sorry mods
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Aug 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
Phyllis Diller died 5 years ago today also
- VANTEL

Robert plants birthday today, new album release in sept.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 8:31 PM ET
Fair enough, one miss doesn't sink you to an abyss though, where we currently are. Yzerman missed on Connolly at #6 and they're fine. It's the Gillis years that's killing them, not the Benning years, thus far.
- LeftCoaster

It takes time. You gotta draft the BOA regardless of the position. Gotta happen for 3 or 4 years. Nucks have done that once (possibly, too early to tell). Long road ahead. Trust a Leafs fan, they should know.
McCann, Gaunce and Shink picks don't help. Gotta flip as much as they can for picks and go from there.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:39 PM ET
It takes time. You gotta draft the BOA regardless of the position. Gotta happen for 3 or 4 years. Nucks have done that once (possibly, too early to tell). Long road ahead. Trust a Leafs fan, they should know.
McCann, Gaunce and Shink picks don't help. Gotta flip as much as they can for picks and go from there.

- walshyleafsfan

There should be multiple players from the Mike Gillis years working their way into, or be in, the lineup right now, that's obviously why we are where we are.

They were winning President's Trophies and competing for a Cup so draft positions weren't great, but, that doesn't excuse the state they're currently in.

Benning had a mandate to compete when he arrived, so I'm guessing he caved and agreed (stupid wussy), but ownership has now accepted a rebuild so he has two good drafts under his belt. Gonna take some time to fix the mess.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 8:43 PM ET
Robert plants birthday today, new album release in sept.
- Bettmanhatesus



Still kicking
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 8:55 PM ET
There should be multiple players from the Mike Gillis years working their way into, or be in, the lineup right now, that's obviously why we are where we are.

They were winning President's Trophies and competing for a Cup so draft positions weren't great, but, that doesn't excuse the state they're currently in.

Benning had a mandate to compete when he arrived, so I'm guessing he caved and agreed (stupid wussy), but ownership has now accepted a rebuild so he has two good drafts under his belt. Gonna take some time to fix the mess.

- LeftCoaster

Yeah OJ is a guy that should help, but you've gotta have them high impact players. Unfortunately they only come from the top end of the draft. The way the league has set itself up, you have to be bad before you get good.

The only way you can slightly bypass that is moving to Boston, New York or Florida or have good weather. And even then, it's no guarantee. Best way is to get 3 top 5 picks and start from there.

P.S. Gillis was awful. He was like Nonis.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
The rule of thumb in NHL circles is, if you produce one quality NHL player per draft you've done well, if you produce two, you've done extremely well.

2014 - they've got Demko, Virtanen and Tryamkin (not bad at all...maybe?)
2015 - Boeser & possible Gaudette, again, not bad at all...maybe?
2016 - Juolevi, he's a sure-fire NHL'er and he'll be a solid top three guy.
2017 - way too early to tell.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
Yeah OJ is a guy that should help, but you've gotta have them high impact players. Unfortunately they only come from the top end of the draft. The way the league has set itself up, you have to be bad before you get good.

The only way you can slightly bypass that is moving to Boston, New York or Florida or have good weather. And even then, it's no guarantee. Best way is to get 3 top 5 picks and start from there.

P.S. Gillis was awful. He was like Nonis.

- walshyleafsfan

Nonis gave you Nylander, in two drafts, be thankful for that, I guess.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:16 PM ET
Donnie boy....you realize I'm defending Benning here, sort of, where are you?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 20 @ 9:19 PM ET
Donnie boy....you realize I'm defending Benning here, sort of, where are you?
- LeftCoaster

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