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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:24 PM ET
S7‏ @S7HDesign Aug 19

S7 Retweeted David Staples
Would Nuge be a good fit for VAN? And does VAN have any assets that EDM want? Might be no for both


Someone reads HockeyBuzz

- VANTEL

Pretty sure someone from HB writes for thecanuckway.com
https://thecanuckway.com/...yan-nugent-hopkins-trade/
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:26 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Scooby...I saw the email from Yahoo on the hockey pool, can we add four more teams so we don't play each other multiple times?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 9:50 PM ET
Tanev doesn't get you Makar
- CanuckDon



Why? Tanev is a proven shutdown D & Makar is a proven what?
Ok what does Tanev fetch? Or a trade with whom for what?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
Or the Wings 1st
- A_SteamingLombardi


What does he fetch then if the Wings have anything to offer us we need?
There longtime search for a RHD is not coming cheap.
Eg Hall for Larsson. Is the 1st out of the question?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 9:52 PM ET
If tanev was going to get traded it would of been done before his NTC kicked in, either before the expansion draft or at the draft itself. I know its the dog days of summer but cmon
- phyllee


So he is locked in here & unmoveable. Gotcha & quite possible.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Aug 20 @ 9:59 PM ET
Scooby...I saw the email from Yahoo on the hockey pool, can we add four more teams so we don't play each other multiple times?
- LeftCoaster


Wins the league and feeling confident?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 20 @ 10:05 PM ET
Scooby...I saw the email from Yahoo on the hockey pool, can we add four more teams so we don't play each other multiple times?
- LeftCoaster


I like creating rivalries.


I'd be open to it if there is interest. I know Vancity wanted in, but I don't know if we will lose any teams...

If we added teams I'd have to lower the number of players we carry, as i felt we were borderline last year with talent available on the waiver wire.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 20 @ 10:24 PM ET
Pretty sure someone from HB writes for thecanuckway.com
https://thecanuckway.com/...yan-nugent-hopkins-trade/

- manvanfan


Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 20 @ 10:25 PM ET
I guess I'm so used to being wrong about you it's just a natural instinct?
- LeftCoaster



Fixed.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:32 PM ET
Makar has proven NOTHING yet - he's not even played at the CHL level!!! Let alone the fact that he's 3-4 years away IF he even pans out. He's literally a pipe dream at this point.
- Brooks_Light

Propose Tanev for Makar to an Avs fan and see what they say
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:32 PM ET
If tanev was going to get traded it would of been done before his NTC kicked in, either before the expansion draft or at the draft itself. I know its the dog days of summer but cmon
- phyllee

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:33 PM ET
There should be multiple players from the Mike Gillis years working their way into, or be in, the lineup right now, that's obviously why we are where we are.

They were winning President's Trophies and competing for a Cup so draft positions weren't great, but, that doesn't excuse the state they're currently in.

Benning had a mandate to compete when he arrived, so I'm guessing he caved and agreed (stupid wussy), but ownership has now accepted a rebuild so he has two good drafts under his belt. Gonna take some time to fix the mess.

- LeftCoaster

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:34 PM ET
Donnie boy....you realize I'm defending Benning here, sort of, where are you?
- LeftCoaster

I was eating but great work
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:35 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

Lemmings are the ultimate team players
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
Propose Tanev for Makar to an Avs fan and see what they say
- CanuckDon


Answer: they wanna suck like the Nordiques & hope it works again.
So far so good but who will be left there in 10yrs?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:37 PM ET
Why? Tanev is a proven shutdown D & Makar is a proven what?
Ok what does Tanev fetch? Or a trade with whom for what?

- Nighthawk

Makar is a safe bet to be an impact top 4 dman. Colorado isn't looking for 27 year olds as they are in a full rebuild. I don't want to speculate because Tanev isn't going anywhere
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 10:39 PM ET
Makar is a safe bet to be an impact top 4 dman. Colorado isn't looking for 27 year olds as they are in a full rebuild. I don't want to speculate because Tanev isn't going anywhere
- CanuckDon



Yes full rebuild maybe but then fire Sakic.
As for speculation thats what i do lol
Av's r not getting better nor r they going to IMO
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 10:41 PM ET
I like creating rivalries.


I'd be open to it if there is interest. I know Vancity wanted in, but I don't know if we will lose any teams...

If we added teams I'd have to lower the number of players we carry, as I felt we were borderline last year with talent available on the waiver wire.

- Scooby_Doo

There's probably a couple of teams (kneughter and Chompsey) that may not participate, guess we'll see.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yes full rebuild maybe but then fire Sakic.
As for speculation thats what i do lol
Av's r not getting better nor r they going to IMO

- Nighthawk

Avs need to tank badly for a few years. Sakic has ruined that franchise. We won't trade Tanev because we don't have anyone to replace him yet. Perhaps in two seasons
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
Answer: they wanna suck like the Nordiques & hope it works again.
So far so good but who will be left there in 10yrs?

- Nighthawk

Joe Sakic had to endure several years of absolute bottom finishes, and he turned out just fine.

The Nordiques drafted last after his first year, drafted Sundin. Finished last after his second year, drafted Owen Nolan. Finished last his third year and drafted Eric Lindros. Finished second last his fourth year and drafted Todd Warriner fourth overall (expansion).

1993 they were well on their way with a 104 point season and the rest is history. Drafting in good positions works if there's players there that are worth the selection. If you're unlucky like say the Oilers were with a few bad years, it takes time.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:51 PM ET
Avs need to tank badly for a few years. Sakic has ruined that franchise. We won't trade Tanev because we don't have anyone to replace him yet. Perhaps in two seasons
- CanuckDon


I wouldnt say tank badly for a few years they do have alot of good pieces, especially in Jost and Rantanen. Sakic really has ruined it, which is a shame to see. And agreed on Tanev, in two years he'll be gone when Boqvist is ready
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 10:52 PM ET
Avs need to tank badly for a few years. Sakic has ruined that franchise. We won't trade Tanev because we don't have anyone to replace him yet. Perhaps in two seasons
- CanuckDon



Tanking is not a solution. Thats a fallacy hoping on luck.
As for Tanev I agree unless the right deal can be had.

If anyone thinks tanking is the panacea for success the odds say NO WAY
Its only a fanbases dream that its a shortcut to success.
30 other teams to climb over says the probability is slim to none.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 20 @ 10:53 PM ET
Joe Sakic had to endure several years of absolute bottom finishes, and he turned out just fine.

The Nordiques drafted last after his first year, drafted Sundin. Finished last after his second year, drafted Owen Nolan. Finished last his third year and drafted Eric Lindros. Finished second last his fourth year and drafted Todd Warriner fourth overall (expansion).

1993 they were well on their way with a 104 point season and the rest is history. Drafting in good positions works if there's players there that are worth the selection. If you're unlucky like say the Oilers were with a few bad years, it takes time.

- LeftCoaster



Then along came the lottery & salary cap say no more.......
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 20 @ 10:55 PM ET
Then along came the lottery & salary cap say no more.......
- Nighthawk

Ya it's tougher now but that doesn't negate the fact the best players come from the top of the draft.
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