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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
So, we want to gift veterans spots in the lineup, but young players have to earn it, Dumb & Dumber agree that the draft is stupid, drama queens are worried Bo hasn't signed yet.

At least Carol is the best and makes it worthwhile reading.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Newell Brown likes Burmistrov
- VANTEL


True he might be the right shot. They got options for both units. Depends who clicks or is hot.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
Goldobin's already played two years in the AHL, time for him to be given a look at the NHL level. I'm assuming they didn't trade for him to put him in the AHL.
- LeftCoaster

Sure, that's not really my point. Gaunce/ Goblin/ Molino/ Boeser - whoever doesn't earn it. I'm hoping for a better team in Utica this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
True he might be the right shot. They got options for both units. Depends who clicks or is hot.
- Nuck4U



I really hope JV Burmistrov and Goldobin all prove they are NHL players this year so we can star moving forward
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
So, we want to gift veterans spots in the lineup, but young players have to earn it, Dumb & Dumber agree that the draft is stupid, drama queens are worried Bo hasn't signed yet.

At least Carol is the best and makes it worthwhile reading.

- Reubenkincade


WTF are you ranting about Pratman.

No one said any of the above. Well except for Stringer on Bo.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
I half agree...signing Vanek for one season and dumping him at the deadline for a pick isn't a bad move. This ensures Goblin plays in Utica a bit longer and is then called up for good after the deadline. I don't care either way if they sign him is what I'm saying. It could be a defendable move

#pump&dump

- CanuckDon



Vanek is more like another Vrbata. Vanek had a decent season in Detroit and they barely moved him at the TDL and now he's still unsigned as a UFA. GM's of rebuilding teams don't want him and contending teams want guys "who can help in the playoffs" and guys like Vrbata/Vanek don't have that rep like a Hansen/Burrows.

He's a tough player to sign and flip.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
WTF are you ranting about Pratman.

No one said any of the above. Well except for Stringer on Bo.

- Nuck4U



We have all given Rueben a free pass to rant and get things going in here.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
They should listen to what Sundin said recently, something to the tune of...

"enjoy life it's not all about hockey"

- VanHockeyGuy



He was speaking out to Leaf fans......
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 2:55 PM ET
I really hope JV Burmistrov and Goldobin all prove they are NHL players this year so we can star moving forward
- VANTEL


Yeah, seems management is trying to make it competitive enough for them, and others, to step up their game, while at the same time they have the support to be able to excel and show it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 26 @ 2:55 PM ET
Vanek is more like another Vrbata. Vanek had a decent season in Detroit and they barely moved him at the TDL and now he's still unsigned as a UFA. GM's of rebuilding teams don't want him and contending teams want guys "who can help in the playoffs" and guys like Vrbata/Vanek don't have that rep like a Hansen/Burrows.

He's a tough player to sign and flip.

- Nucker101



I think Trev wants to make the playoffs and give the Sedins one last chance. Little does he know they will still be here for 8 more tries
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
WTF are you ranting about Pratman.

No one said any of the above. Well except for Stringer on Bo.

- Nuck4U


No names were mentioned in my comment, yet, you had to jump in to defend yourself.
Do you have insecurity issues or are you the type that feels the need to butt into every conversation, the one that has to have the last word...on everything, and has to speak/comment the most, because you believe your comments are valued more than anyone.
Or are you just lonely.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 26 @ 2:57 PM ET
I think the Twins will hang around 50 pts barring injury…but that doesn't really change much for this club. Now if the Twins were back to being 85-90 point guys that would change much…but that aint happening.
- LordHumungous



I can see 50pts being likely. Their points are not the issue when we need & expect others to perform better. I'm presuming their TOI will vary from past seasons if the others seize it from them.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:01 PM ET
Vanek is more like another Vrbata. Vanek had a decent season in Detroit and they barely moved him at the TDL and now he's still unsigned as a UFA. GM's of rebuilding teams don't want him and contending teams want guys "who can help in the playoffs" and guys like Vrbata/Vanek don't have that rep like a Hansen/Burrows.

He's a tough player to sign and flip.

- Nucker101


Yeah he's had that label on him yet GM's still give up something for him at TDL not sure why he retains value. So are there any UFA's out there you would favor to sign and flip?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 26 @ 3:02 PM ET
They signed 4 UFA's to fill those gaps. Signing Vanek would go against their 'younger & faster' mantra which would be a continuation of their horrendous PR messages of everyone saying something different or contrary.
The mixed messages are infuriating.

- Marwood



Younger & faster is not compromised if the kids need further grooming in Utica. Assets & depths afford flexibility for TDL moves &/or kids JB deems not in the future Canucks roster. Everything is fluid and not all based on singular moves.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 26 @ 3:02 PM ET
Vanek is more like another Vrbata. Vanek had a decent season in Detroit and they barely moved him at the TDL and now he's still unsigned as a UFA. GM's of rebuilding teams don't want him and contending teams want guys "who can help in the playoffs" and guys like Vrbata/Vanek don't have that rep like a Hansen/Burrows.

He's a tough player to sign and flip.

- Nucker101

Well he did get a 3rd at the deadline and Benning seems to draft better in the 3rd than the 1st. Tree-bris-Lockwood-Dipietro

But you may be right, after Vanek was weak with Florida, GMs may not make the same mistake again
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:08 PM ET
No names were mentioned in my comment, yet, you had to jump in to defend yourself.
Do you have insecurity issues or are you the type that feels the need to butt into every conversation, the one that has to have the last word...on everything, and has to speak/comment the most, because you believe your comments are valued more than anyone.
Or are you just lonely.

- Reubenkincade


you didn't have any conversation going or defending needed just wondering about your rant; as I didn't think you were a nut job. But Vantel straightened that out. So carry on. It's amusing counting up your Freudian slips though.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
Weren't you saying the other day that, Evander Kane, who is a 20 goal scorer, would be making less than his current contract.
- Reubenkincade

Theres a difference between a 33 year old and a 27 year. Cheap is different when you are talking 1 million to 4-5 million. Kane makes 5.25 as a 20 goal scorer. Would you pay Granlund 5 million plus after the season he just had?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
you didn't have any conversation going or defending needed just wondering about your rant; as I didn't think you were a nut job. But Vantel straightened that out. So carry on. It's amusing counting up your Freudian slips though.
- Nuck4U


I will take your response as meaning, you are lonely.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
you didn't have any conversation going or defending needed just wondering about your rant; as I didn't think you were a nut job. But Vantel straightened that out. So carry on. It's amusing counting up your Freudian slips though.
- Nuck4U


Here we go again that u must antagonize the situation.
Last word comments are your real problem & I'd advise simply move on.
Continue on as you do if you wish to be a ligtning rod as often as you are.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
Well he did get a 3rd at the deadline and Benning seems to draft better in the 3rd than the 1st. Tree-bris-Lockwood-Dipietro

But you may be right, after Vanek was weak with Florida, GMs may not make the same mistake again

- CanuckDon

You only get so many chances to prove yourself around playoff time. I think he is wearing his thin. Even if we no get a 4th at the tdl for him. Honestly its an free 4th basically. Still has to earn a contract. A PTO would be best.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:20 PM ET
Well he did get a 3rd at the deadline and Benning seems to draft better in the 3rd than the 1st. Tree-bris-Lockwood-Dipietro

But you may be right, after Vanek was weak with Florida, GMs may not make the same mistake again

- CanuckDon


It only takes one. GM's short on options have ignored flags to swing for hope with TDL need. Like you neutral to it one way or another. Just if they sign someone it's a player with the best potential for value at TDL.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
Theres a difference between a 33 year old and a 27 year. Cheap is different when you are talking 1 million to 4-5 million. Kane makes 5.25 as a 20 goal scorer. Would you pay Granlund 5 million plus after the season he just had?
- manvanfan


Vanek 33
Kane 26
Granlund 24

All 3 have had different careers & longevity & results.
Very poor comparables IMO
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:25 PM ET
I really hope JV Burmistrov and Goldobin all prove they are NHL players this year so we can star moving forward
- VANTEL


I think that will be the 4th line this year.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Aug 26 @ 3:27 PM ET
Vanek is more like another Vrbata. Vanek had a decent season in Detroit and they barely moved him at the TDL and now he's still unsigned as a UFA. GM's of rebuilding teams don't want him and contending teams want guys "who can help in the playoffs" and guys like Vrbata/Vanek don't have that rep like a Hansen/Burrows.

He's a tough player to sign and flip.

- Nucker101


You need to post more often. Logical thinking doesn't happen here very often
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 26 @ 3:27 PM ET
I advise everyone to follow ryan biech on twitter. The guy is making clips and gifs of pettersson playing today and the kid is making plays that are insane.
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