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SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
I understood it just fine. I stated my point, you stated yours, and now I want to move on?
- Codes1087


You opened that can of worms once you replied to Argue4U and now you gotta eat it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
you don't have another 30 minutes to discuss this topic?
- CanuckDon


I don't, I am trying to stop this before it gets out of hand lol.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 25 @ 6:28 PM ET
I don't, I am trying to stop this before it gets out of hand lol.
- Codes1087

too late
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not sure how you fix this one. Perhaps you tack on an extra 2 years that a team can hold your rights if a player commits the NCAA route after being drafted?
- Codes1087


I always thought you limit a team the amount of NCAA free agents you can sign. If a team can only sign 2 every 3 years. Really limits a team for always going after them and makes them more selective when offering a contact.

If you cap it so a team like Chicago or New York cant go after everyone thats available. It limits a free agents options and might persuade them to sign with their own team instead
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
You opened that can of worms once you replied to Argue4U and now you gotta eat it.
- SRam19

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
I don't, I am trying to stop this before it gets out of hand lol.
- Codes1087

Too late.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
Detroit seemed to do ok for 20 years.
- Codes1087


Imagine if they could sign whatever young talent they liked from scouting. Gave lower contracts to players who you would call sleepers or gems. They would still be a powerhouse. Not in store for years of failure.

Here's another scenario not having a draft. Imagine with Canuck cap space they went after signing Mathews, Laine, OJ, EP, Makar, Svetchnikov, Dahlin and Veleno. Rebuilds wouldn't be tied to years of hoping a top player lands in your draft position.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 25 @ 6:37 PM ET
Carolina would definitely thrive if players get to pick where they play instead of being forced to play where they are drafted
- twiztedmike


Probably not, no, but I don't really give a poop. The location of the team means nothing to me.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
You opened that can of worms once you replied to Argue4U and now you gotta eat it.
- SRam19


STFU
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
I always thought you limit a team the amount of NCAA free agents you can sign. If a team can only sign 2 every 3 years. Really limits a team for always going after them and makes them more selective when offering a contact.

If you cap it so a team like Chicago or New York cant go after everyone thats available. It limits a free agents options and might persuade them to sign with their own team instead

- DDM-Coga


Why do you think Butcher snubbed the Av's? They are probably the best opportunity for him to make an NHL roster.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 25 @ 7:08 PM ET
Why do you think Butcher snubbed the Av's? They are probably the best opportunity for him to make an NHL roster.
- Kaynine


Incorrect, there are probably 5 other dmen In the ahl cue who they would play before him.

He snubbed them bc Roy told him they had no intentions of signing him after his junior year. He didn't even have a solid junior year and wanted an elc from them.

He also was a Dallas stars and madono fan growing up so (frank) that guy, grosssddd

It is what it is. I wont lose sleep over butcher
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 25 @ 7:14 PM ET
Incorrect, there are probably 5 other dmen In the ahl cue who they would play before him.

He snubbed them bc Roy told him they had no intentions of signing him after his junior year. He didn't even have a solid junior year and wanted an elc from them.

He also was a Dallas stars and madono fan growing up so (frank) that guy, grosssddd

It is what it is. I wont lose sleep over butcher

- DDM-Coga


Sorry didn't realize you were so sensitive.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 7:15 PM ET
This is for Whitelie:

https://thecanuckway.com/...mir-jagr-is-worth-a-look/

Jager to play with Sedins.... old, slow and ......
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
Sorry didn't realize you were so sensitive.
- Kaynine


What are you taking about? That's not being sensitive, I'm joking scout the Dallas stuff but it's just the truth. Avs are higher on their other prospects who have played the 60-100 pro games in ahl, khl, or other euro leagues that Sakic has been taking about in their dev model.

Butcher could be a nice prospect but he could be lost in the shuffle with the avs now and in the near future with makar coming.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 7:25 PM ET
What are you taking about? That's not being sensitive, I'm joking scout the Dallas stuff but it's just the truth. Avs are higher on their other prospects who have played the 60-100 pro games in ahl, khl, or other euro leagues that Sakic has been taking about in their dev model.

Butcher could be a nice prospect but he could be lost in the shuffle with the avs now and in the near future with makar coming.

- DDM-Coga


Drafting Makar and already having another small D in Tyson made Butcher a no go for him on Avs now. This after being not ready before. He's got better options with Pens and Hawks. Have fun with Kerfoot.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 25 @ 8:05 PM ET
What are you taking about? That's not being sensitive, I'm joking scout the Dallas stuff but it's just the truth. Avs are higher on their other prospects who have played the 60-100 pro games in ahl, khl, or other euro leagues that Sakic has been taking about in their dev model.

Butcher could be a nice prospect but he could be lost in the shuffle with the avs now and in the near future with makar coming.

- DDM-Coga


"He also was a Dallas stars and madono fan growing up so (frank) that guy, grosssddd"

That's the comment I was talking about. I read it differently then u intended it to be meant, I know now you were joking.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 25 @ 8:07 PM ET
"He also was a Dallas stars and madono fan growing up so (frank) that guy, grosssddd"

That's the comment I was talking about. I read it differently then u intended it to be meant, I know now you were joking.

- Kaynine


Back In the day hated the Stars, they eye a thorn in the avs side haha but now I'm of course in different to them. Same as devils and wings. Rivalries are dead if teams aren't winning.

BUt the wild, they can still suck it
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 25 @ 8:12 PM ET
Back In the day hated the Stars, they eye a thorn in the avs side haha but now I'm of course in different to them. Same as devils and wings. Rivalries are dead if teams aren't winning.

BUt the wild, they can still suck it

- DDM-Coga


I could see that. Although if I was an Avs fan I would feckin hate the Wings until the day I die!

It's going to be a dog fight in both the PAC and CEN for the top 4/5 teams. Unfortunately, neither of our teams will be in those discussions.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Aug 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
Probably not, no, but I don't really give a poop. The location of the team means nothing to me.
- BINGO!

stop
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 25 @ 8:18 PM ET
You opened that can of worms once you replied to Argue4U and now you gotta eat it.
- SRam19

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
I know a lot of scouts had EP ranked as high as 1oa, and it was his weight that was the only reason he wasn't a bonafide 1oa pick like Nico/Nolan. Maybe Petterson was their guy all along, regardless of where they picked?

I find it hard to believe anyone would have picked Makar 1oa, considering he didn't even play in a good league.

I still think Colorado was foolish to pick Makar and not Heiskanen.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
What are you taking about? That's not being sensitive, I'm joking scout the Dallas stuff but it's just the truth. Avs are higher on their other prospects who have played the 60-100 pro games in ahl, khl, or other euro leagues that Sakic has been taking about in their dev model.

Butcher could be a nice prospect but he could be lost in the shuffle with the avs now and in the near future with makar coming.

- DDM-Coga



Because Sakic totally knows what he's doing, he's not a terrible GM at all
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
I know a lot of scouts had EP ranked as high as 1oa, and it was his weight that was the only reason he wasn't a bonafide 1oa pick like Nico/Nolan. Maybe Petterson was their guy all along, regardless of where they picked?

I find it hard to believe anyone would have picked Makar 1oa, considering he didn't even play in a good league.

I still think Colorado was foolish to pick Makar and not Heiskanen.

- Crazybagoham


You forget the lotto winners. Avs picked 4th and Stars picked 3rd.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 25 @ 8:36 PM ET
I know a lot of scouts had EP ranked as high as 1oa, and it was his weight that was the only reason he wasn't a bonafide 1oa pick like Nico/Nolan. Maybe Petterson was their guy all along, regardless of where they picked?

I find it hard to believe anyone would have picked Makar 1oa, considering he didn't even play in a good league.

I still think Colorado was foolish to pick Makar and not Heiskanen.

- Crazybagoham


Col couldn't, Dallas took Heiskanen with the 3rd pick.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Aug 25 @ 8:40 PM ET
Col couldn't, Dallas took Heiskanen with the 3rd pick.
- Kaynine


Ahh, yes, my mistake. I've just never really understood why Makar rose so high, and guys like Tippet just plunged
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