Agreed

And agree again, but hey he's going to bench vets, limit the sedins, play the kids, this guy is the next hype and hope here so tread carefully or you could hurt someones feelings.
- Makita

I'm going to make a suggestion to EK that with every new member they must go through Hormone Therapy before they are allowed to post comments.

Now you can't use the above statement against me when I inevitably loose my marbles when JB signs an aging has-been to a two year NMC deal and then TG gives them 15 minutes a night because he doesn't have faith in his younger players and the NHL is about "winning games" and "compete" and "creating a winning environment."

The NHL has proven it over and over again that the only thing that really matters is winning the Stanley Cup. Even at the expense of entertainment value. Very closed minded approach.

I'm going to make a suggestion to EK that with every new member they must go through Hormone Therapy before they are allowed to post comments.

Now you can't use the above statement against me when I inevitably loose my marbles when JB signs an aging has-been to a two year NMC deal and then TG gives them 15 minutes a night because he doesn't have faith in his younger players and the NHL is about "winning games" and "compete" and "creating a winning environment."

The NHL has proven it over and over again that the only thing that really matters is winning the Stanley Cup. Even at the expense of entertainment value. Very closed minded approach.
- bloatedmosquito

Options? Let's play a game. Here are your options:



or



Now, the question is "do you really have an option?"
- bloatedmosquito

Are you thinking that despite all the moves made to make prospects earn a spot? Do you think BB is more promotion and less hockey ready?
- Nuck4U

I think BB is ready and will force their hand, but its also possible he has a bad camp. In that situation if he makes the team, it will reveal the Canuck's true intentions IMO

flagged hard.

Best coaching staff of all time! Future HHOF staff.
- Pres.cup

lol...a hard flag...found that funny.

I think BB is ready and will force their hand, but its also possible he has a bad camp. In that situation if he makes the team, it will reveal the Canuck's true intentions IMO
- WhiteLie

Everything will be set up for BB to succeed. It's on him if he blows it this season.

- Marwood

If folks really want to stop intentional tanking then how about creating some type of relegation rule. Having a tier-2 league would be so cool. Smaller NA markets could climb that ladder to the NHL and poopty NHL teams get sent down.

No ego-maniac owner wants to see his investment lose value so they would fight tooth and nail not to be the team relegated.

It would be next to impossible to enact but it sure would be fun. It's also a way to expand your NHL footprint or world hockey market share.

Tier 1 - NHL
Tier 2 - AHL
Tier 3 - ECHL

I have no expectations this season and am looking forward to next seasons draft. I don't care if young players make the team, if they aren't ready.
No gifting of spots to the young ones, let's not ruin these kids on this train wreck of a hockey team.
We have 82 games of torture ahead, be prepared.

I have no expectations this season and am looking forward to next seasons draft. I don't care if young players make the team, if they aren't ready.
No gifting of spots to the young ones, let's not ruin these kids on this train wreck of a hockey team.
We have 82 games of torture ahead, be prepared.
- Renidrag

This is exactly what the canucks marketing department don't want to hear.

Fan disinterest or complacency is absolute death.

Job well done Aquaman!

Everything will be set up for BB to succeed. It's on him if he blows it this season.
- LordHumungous

I agree he is set up to succeed, and think that he will. But he doesnt require waivers, so if he starts slow, bad camp, etc I'd still be concerned about Canucks promotion department calling the shots

If folks really want to stop intentional tanking then how about creating some type of relegation rule. Having a tier-2 league would be so cool. Smaller NA markets could climb that ladder to the NHL and poopty NHL teams get sent down.

No ego-maniac owner wants to see his investment lose value so they would fight tooth and nail not to be the team relegated.

It would be next to impossible to enact but it sure would be fun. It's also a way to expand your NHL footprint or world hockey market share.

Tier 1 - NHL
Tier 2 - AHL
Tier 3 - ECHL
- bloatedmosquito

Agreed completely, not possible given the league structure/draft but would be fun to have. I even like some of the ideas where non-playoff teams play out the season for higher draft positions. Gives incentive to try and win every game, even when youre eliminated from the playoffs

I have no expectations this season and am looking forward to next seasons draft. I don't care if young players make the team, if they aren't ready.
No gifting of spots to the young ones, let's not ruin these kids on this train wreck of a hockey team.
We have 82 games of torture ahead, be prepared.
- Renidrag

Bring it.

Agreed completely, not possible given the league structure/draft but would be fun to have. I even like some of the ideas where non-playoff teams play out the season for higher draft positions. Gives incentive to try and win every game, even when youre eliminated from the playoffs
- WhiteLie

I see relegation as public shaming.
I'm enjoying Bloated's hate. We need more, too many pom-poms.

Agreed completely, not possible given the league structure/draft but would be fun to have. I even like some of the ideas where non-playoff teams play out the season for higher draft positions. Gives incentive to try and win every game, even when youre eliminated from the playoffs
- WhiteLie

I'm not a huge fan of soccer but the EPL got it right when they created other ways outside of the championship trophy for fans to cheer for and engage in their team.

Premier League Championship
FA Cup
EFL Cup
FA Community Shield (replacing the Charity Shield)
League Super Cup
League Centenary Trophy (for elite clubs to celebrate 100 years of the Football League)
UEFA Champions League (formerly the European Cup)
UEFA Europa League (formerly the UEFA Cup)
UEFA Super Cup
FIFA Club World Cup

That doesn't even include Derby's and other European and world competitions that individual city clubs take part in.

The NHL just has one trophy that matters. From an entertainment and marketing perspective does that make any sense?

Bring it.
- Marwood

Some of us are patient while others....well not so much.

Some of us are patient while others....well not so much.
- Renidrag

I think the saying is "impatience is a virtue"

I agree that's it's not the twins fault. They are pro athletes. They have the drive and ego to be pro athletes. All they do is want to play. I expect nothing less from them.

My problem is how this team used them over the pass two seasons. If the coach taps them on the shoulder they're over the boards. They ain't going to turn around to the coach and tell him "Not now coach, send out one of the kids... they need the experience."

It's up to canuck ownership and management team to determine how the twins will be used over the next 3 seasons.
- bloatedmosquito

100%

If folks really want to stop intentional tanking then how about creating some type of relegation rule. Having a tier-2 league would be so cool. Smaller NA markets could climb that ladder to the NHL and poopty NHL teams get sent down.

No ego-maniac owner wants to see his investment lose value so they would fight tooth and nail not to be the team relegated.

It would be next to impossible to enact but it sure would be fun. It's also a way to expand your NHL footprint or world hockey market share.

Tier 1 - NHL
Tier 2 - AHL
Tier 3 - ECHL
- bloatedmosquito

You could try that and it would create more pressure to succeed or spend money on team. But easiest thing to do is eliminate the draft.

They don't want to be the first line anymore, but someone needs to out perform them.
- Pres.cup

You have to give the others the opportunity though . Maybe Green will bit Willie sure as hell didn't.

Danny did outscore all the others but how much PP time was Sven given or face offs after an icing.

I don't blame the twins for taking the opportunities I blame the coaching. For the new guys to get chances to put up numbers they need some advantages also.

You have to give the others the opportunity though . Maybe Green will bit Willie sure as hell didn't.

Danny did outscore all the others but how much PP time was Sven given or face offs after an icing.

I don't blame the twins for taking the opportunities I blame the coaching. For the new guys to get chances to put up numbers they need some advantages also.
- VANTEL

I think it's hard to blame a coach for putting the players he see's as giving you the best chance to win in positions to win.
That's their job. To win games, nothing else.
Maybe TG will be different, but when it's his job on the line and his chance to develop a track record that may impact future job opportunities...i would not bet on it.

I threw out that "next 3 seasons" just to see if I get a reaction. But TBH I think they will be canucks until the end of the 19/20 NHL season.

I don't necessarily think if that happened it would be a failure in development. My thinking is that the roster and prospect pool is so paper thin that it's going to take years of player development to get this team, once again, back to prominence.

I don't have a lot of confidence in TG. Hired to be fired as far as I'm concerned.
- bloatedmosquito

This is where I hope players like Granlund Sven Bo and Boeer step up so we don't see a need for them. Bring on the next wave. If they return that is because we are still way way behind. I would like to see the Canucks use that cap space and bring in one new top 6 young player.

You could try that and it would create more pressure to succeed or spend money on team. But easiest thing to do is eliminate the draft.
- Nuck4U

No. The easiest thing to do is eliminate the teams that struggle bringing in revenue and eliminate the cap. The draft has been a successful way for weaker teams to get better for decades now.

Having less teams without a cap would allow for teams to be stronger throughout lineup and we'll into the farm system, while also allowing for the weaker teams to make offers to UFA's, making them stronger.

Some of us are patient while others....well not so much.
- Renidrag

You must be a very patient fan. 47 years and counting. Good for you.

I, on the other hand, despise mediocrity. Loath it. And the canuck franchise is the epitome of mediocrity.

Oh well, I guess it comes down to personality, not a measurement of your devotion as a fan.

I think it's hard to blame a coach for putting the players he see's as giving you the best chance to win in positions to win.
That's their job. To win games, nothing else.
Maybe TG will be different, but when it's his job on the line and his chance to develop a track record that may impact future job opportunities...i would not bet on it.
- dbot

How do you know that for sure if you have never tried? Again this is not twin bashing, they will do what is asked , but coaching has got to give the others a kick at the can.

How do you know that for sure if you have never tried? Again this is not twin bashing, they will do what is asked , but coaching has got to give the others a kick at the can.
- VANTEL

you can experiment a bit during preseason, but then it's on.
imo it's up to mgmt to ice the team, coaches will use the best options provided to them.

if JB and TL and FA really want a rebuild, they will trade/not resign Sedins and put younger players in positions to succeed.
It's not on Green.