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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Aug 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Carol Schram: Projected timelines for Vancouver Canucks' top prospects, Fishing for Kids NHL.com's offseason deep dive into the Vancouver Canucks is highlighted by projections of when the team's top prospects will be NHL ready. Plus, the Fishing for Kids fundraiser is underway in Haida Gwaii.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
Fishing for Kids....such a great event! I like what Demko is saying #thefuture
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Thanks Carol,

I don't think EP makes the team next season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
I find it annoying when I see can the Twins bounce back. If they do indeed have a bounce back year and score 50 -60 pts that takes us from30 th to 23 Yippee.

We seem to be focused on the wrong agenda.

I would prefer to get the higher draft pick and start forming the future with the young players. The twins should no longer be the main focus
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
Idk how we get around what the Sedins do bro.
Whatever happens we roll with it.
Its a long season & they alone won't carry or sink us.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Thanks Carol,

I don't think EP makes the team next season.

- VanHockeyGuy


I think he will, even if he shouldnt. Until this team proves otherwise, I think they will care about having him in the lineup for promotion more than development
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Idk how we get around what the Sedins do bro.
Whatever happens we roll with it.
Its a long season & they alone won't carry or sink us.

- Nighthawk


I am not complaining about them . They do what they do. My complaint is the team needs to start looking past them. Focus should be on Bo Sven Granlund Boeser then the rest of the team
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
I am not complaining about them . They do what they do. My complaint is the team needs to start looking past them. Focus should be on Bo Sven Granlund Boeser then the rest of the team
- VANTEL


I'm sure they are looking past the Sedins.
The new core has to make waves not the Sedins.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:14 PM ET
Thanks Carol,

I don't think EP makes the team next season.

- VanHockeyGuy

Very doubtful for this year. But willing to bet he gets a good look at the start of 2018-19 season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 3:15 PM ET
I'm sure they are looking past the Sedins.
The new core has to make waves not the Sedins.

- Nighthawk



Are they really?

Again this is not saying anything about the twins.

I think Granlund at this time is Canucks second best forward and would be best suited to play with Bo on the top line. How many times have people penciled Granlund with the twins because he gets the most out of them. That does not sound like we are looking past them . It looks like they are focused still on them. Not their fault.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
I find it annoying when I see can the Twins bounce back. If they do indeed have a bounce back year and score 50 -60 pts that takes us from30 th to 23 Yippee.

We seem to be focused on the wrong agenda.

I would prefer to get the higher draft pick and start forming the future with the young players. The twins should no longer be the main focus

- VANTEL


Hmm..... interesting, i hadn't heard any of this before, i thought you liked them to finish their career in style, danks 1000 points etc.... to retire in style.

Coult you share some more of these new age ideas of yours with the class, I've been dying too hear something new!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Hmm..... interesting, i hadn't heard any of this before, i thought you liked them to finish their career in style, danks 1000 points etc.... to retire in style.

Coult you share some more of these new age ideas of yours with the class, I've been dying too hear something new!

- Pres.cup

GFY not in the mood for your troll comments as usual.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Fishing for Kids....such a great event! I like what Demko is saying #thefuture
- LeftCoaster


Agree on above and good to point out. Also from last thread on your post we are talking same language. We are on the same page on accumulation. My add on is that the cycle can go so far until it's deemed a failure and you have to start again.

Just take this blogs top prospect NHL readiness projections. If the players in question aren't clicking 4/5 years from now they would not have worked out. Thus, if Canucks are still at the bottom by then they would need to start a second rebuild cycle. With the remanants of the previous rebuild sold off for more picks/prospects.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
I think he will, even if he shouldnt. Until this team proves otherwise, I think they will care about having him in the lineup for promotion more than development
- WhiteLie



Are you thinking that despite all the moves made to make prospects earn a spot? Do you think BB is more promotion and less hockey ready?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
Are they really?

Again this is not saying anything about the twins.

I think Granlund at this time is Canucks second best forward and would be best suited to play with Bo on the top line. How many times have people penciled Granlund with the twins because he gets the most out of them. That does not sound like we are looking past them . It looks like they are focused still on them. Not their fault.

- VANTEL


Disagree,

3 zone hockey etc... salary aside, age aside, best forwards for the up coming season.

Edited

Horvat
Henrick
Erikson
Gagner
Sutter
Daniel
Baertchi
Granlund

I like baer better and Eriksson should bounce back.
Sutter is underated and hated on.
Daniel still had more points in his worst season then either baer or granny in there best season. I also forgon gagner
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
Are they really?

Again this is not saying anything about the twins.

I think Granlund at this time is Canucks second best forward and would be best suited to play with Bo on the top line. How many times have people penciled Granlund with the twins because he gets the most out of them. That does not sound like we are looking past them . It looks like they are focused still on them. Not their fault.

- VANTEL



Chemistry & production determines linemates
Using your future line

Sven Bo Granlund
Dahlen EP BB
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 28 @ 3:25 PM ET
Are they really?

Again this is not saying anything about the twins.

I think Granlund at this time is Canucks second best forward and would be best suited to play with Bo on the top line. How many times have people penciled Granlund with the twins because he gets the most out of them. That does not sound like we are looking past them. It looks like they are focused still on them. Not their fault.

- VANTEL


I agree that's it's not the twins fault. They are pro athletes. They have the drive and ego to be pro athletes. All they do is want to play. I expect nothing less from them.

My problem is how this team used them over the pass two seasons. If the coach taps them on the shoulder they're over the boards. They ain't going to turn around to the coach and tell him "Not now coach, send out one of the kids... they need the experience."

It's up to canuck ownership and management team to determine how the twins will be used over the next 3 seasons.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 3:26 PM ET
Agree on above good to point out. Also from last thread on your post we are talking same language. We are on the same page on accumulation. My add on is that the cycle can go so far until it's deemed a failure and you have to start again.

Just take this blogs top prospect NHL readiness projections. If the players in question aren't clicking 4/5 years from now they would not have worked out. Thus, if Canucks are still at the bottom by then they would need to start a second rebuild cycle. With the remanants of the previous rebuild sold off for more picks/prospects.

- Nuck4U



Incorrect

Rosters are fluid & many changes still to come.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:26 PM ET
I agree that's it's not the twins fault. They are pro athletes. They have the drive and ego to be pro athletes. All they do is want to play. I expect nothing less from them.

My problem is how this team used them over the pass two seasons. If the coach taps them on the shoulder they're over the boards. They ain't going to turn around to the coach and tell him "Not now coach, send out one of the kids... they need the experience."

It's up to canuck ownership and management team to determine how the twins will be used over the next 3 seasons.

- bloatedmosquito


They don't want to be the first line anymore, but someone needs to out perform them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 28 @ 3:29 PM ET
I agree that's it's not the twins fault. They are pro athletes. They have the drive and ego to be pro athletes. All they do is want to play. I expect nothing less from them.

My problem is how this team used them over the pass two seasons. If the coach taps them on the shoulder they're over the boards. They ain't going to turn around to the coach and tell him "Not now coach, send out one of the kids... they need the experience."

It's up to canuck ownership and management team to determine how the twins will be used over the next 3 seasons.

- bloatedmosquito



One season at a time...
Move Hank around with different wingers.
After Dank gets his 1000th point idc he sits or goes down the line-up.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 28 @ 3:46 PM ET
Incorrect

Rosters are fluid & many changes still to come.

- Nighthawk


You're on a different tangent so your comment is off the mark. Agree team change has fluidity which is really a constant. Lefty and I were looking at what cycle Canucks were in and measuring out the parameters of success with the D&D angle front and center.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 28 @ 3:46 PM ET
They don't want to be the first line anymore, but someone needs to out perform them.
- Pres.cup


True! And that's the problem with our roster. Beyond the twins, there ain't much to work with.

Unless the canucks can grab the 1OA or (at minimum) top three, they ain't going to get a player that can step right in and displace the twins.

As much as good drafting is important (based on canuck luck) proper player development will be even more important IMO.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 28 @ 3:47 PM ET
One season at a time...
Move Hank around with different wingers.
After Dank gets his 1000th point idc he sits or goes down the line-up.

- Nighthawk


As a fan, the bolded rings true. But management can't think that way or we are doomed.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 28 @ 3:49 PM ET
True! And that's the problem with our roster. Beyond the twins, there ain't much to work with.

Unless the canucks can grab the 1OA or (at minimum) top three, they ain't going to get a player that can step right in and displace the twins.

As much as good drafting is important (based on canuck luck) proper player development will be even more important IMO.

- bloatedmosquito


Yes, bettmanmayhateus but he can't stop the development of players.... we need to grow these stars not rush them in.

Sent them all down to hone their craft in the A as stars. Then when they come up they should be ready.
Guance us the only draft pick thats earned (waivers) the right to an NHL spot....
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