Mark Stuart hasn't played a full season in eons. Whatever marginal talents he had have long disappeared.

Polak is coming off a major knee injury and never was very good to begin with in any case.

Hard pass on both. Let the guys in the system take those spots. At least there is an illusion of potential if nothing else. Stuart and Polak are what they will ever be. Journeymen who won't help a team win. Add Franson to the list of NO, too. Big, slow and soft is no way to help a team. Add in he and his agent over-value his worth means I rather watch Rozy over any of those bums.

I really don't wanna see Rozy anymore either but he is better than those 3 stiffs.

We've been through the discourse about Scmaultz previously. Much of his pro and con, value and dis- service to team success lies within the same realm of opportunity witnessed when TT was here.

But now there is a greater need for an offensive player to step up. Consider your strategy from an opposition point - of- view. It must be, just blanket coverage Kane. Make Toews and whomever beat you. Panarin was that surreal talent and Hossa could contribute. Saad is a different offensive style than Panarin, one whom I would be less concerned to stop from getting a good look than Panarin.

Into the void may Scmaultz skate. He risks becoming a role player if the entire league pounds him, and realizes he does not engage successfully with his way of checking.

Schmautz is not exactly a workout warrior, supposedly. Well it is his attitude and willingness that needs to change. It is a physical sport and you have to be strong. Build some strength into your body like Kane has done. You are not expected to be banging along the boards but Schmautz needs now to step up his physicality or BOTH he and the team will suffer from his non compliance.

Mark Stuart hasn't played a full season in eons. Whatever marginal talents he had have long disappeared.

Polak is coming off a major knee injury and never was very good to begin with in any case.

Hard pass on both. Let the guys in the system take those spots. At least there is an illusion of potential if nothing else. Stuart and Polak are what they will ever be. Journeymen who won't help a team win. Add Franson to the list of NO, too. Big, slow and soft is no way to help a team. Add in he and his agent over-value his worth means I rather watch Rozy over any of those bums.

I really don't wanna see Rozy anymore either but he is better than those 3 stiffs.
- TTtime

All three are no good, as you said. But I cannot fathom how Rosy plays if he slows down farther. He would get beat even in the ECHL.

Mark Stuart hasn't played a full season in eons. Whatever marginal talents he had have long disappeared.

Polak is coming off a major knee injury and never was very good to begin with in any case.

Hard pass on both. Let the guys in the system take those spots. At least there is an illusion of potential if nothing else. Stuart and Polak are what they will ever be. Journeymen who won't help a team win. Add Franson to the list of NO, too. Big, slow and soft is no way to help a team. Add in he and his agent over-value his worth means I rather watch Rozy over any of those bums.

I really don't wanna see Rozy anymore either but he is better than those 3 stiffs.
- TTtime

Maybe Stan could bring back Rundblad on a PTO

Given the options left, no matter who Stan brings in on a PTO (if he does at all) they likely won't make the team. I believe Stan when he says Kempny and Forsling will get a shot to make bigger contributions to the team. If one or both can't cut the mustard then Stan will look to improve the team via trade.

Maybe Stan could bring back Rundblad on a PTO :

Given the options left, no matter who Stan brings in on a PTO (if he does at all) they likely won't make the team. I believe Stan when he says Kempny and Forsling will get a shot to make bigger contributions to the team. If one or both can't cut the mustard then Stan will look to improve the team via trade.
- DarthKane

Perhaps sooner or later Ruuta will step into a void.

I am willing to bet that Kempny and Forsling develop nicely if Samuelson brings them along even slowly while Q does not clamor loudly for much veteran help. I like Kempny more only because I suspect Forsling needs more time to improve on coverage. Kempny is hopefully close to becoming the real deal

Mark Stuart hasn't played a full season in eons. Whatever marginal talents he had have long disappeared.

Polak is coming off a major knee injury and never was very good to begin with in any case.

Hard pass on both. Let the guys in the system take those spots. At least there is an illusion of potential if nothing else. Stuart and Polak are what they will ever be. Journeymen who won't help a team win. Add Franson to the list of NO, too. Big, slow and soft is no way to help a team. Add in he and his agent over-value his worth means I rather watch Rozy over any of those bums.

I really don't wanna see Rozy anymore either but he is better than those 3 stiffs.
- TTtime

Completely accurate observation - none of these 3 cut it in the NHL anymore and they won't want to take a paycut from their previous contract value - Franson particularly who is a complete mercenary. He drifts from one last place team to another because those are the only ones willing to pay his asking price for a year.

Perhaps sooner or later Ruuta will step into a void.

I am willing to bet that Kempny and Forsling develop nicely if Samuelson brings them along even slowly while Q does not clamor loudly for much veteran help. I like Kempny more only because I suspect Forsling needs more time to improve on coverage. Kempny is hopefully close to becoming the real deal
- jhawk59

My guess is that both Kempny and Forsling play most if not all the season with #6 having the bigger impact.

JJ,

Any word on potential PTOs? I just keep seeing a couple nice D-men unsigned. Maybe a Franson would be a nice upgrade over Rozy..
- ChadGoHawks

Have not heard anything specifically

Completely accurate observation - none of these 3 cut it in the NHL anymore and they won't want to take a paycut from their previous contract value - Franson particularly who is a complete mercenary. He drifts from one last place team to another because those are the only ones willing to pay his asking price for a year.
- RickJ

And the advantage Rozy has over this group is he speaks Czech, and Q trusts him for what he is.

And the advantage Rozy has over this group is he speaks Czech, and Q trusts him for what he is.
- John Jaeckel

Thought he was done at least two years ago, would have never guessed he could've played another 3 years, but it might be happening........................

Assuming Stan wants to get as close to the cap ceiling as possible before putting Hossa on LTIR I wanted to see how close he could get. Now, I'm not suggesting this is the long term roster, this is just the combination that gets the team closest to $75,000,000. I would assume the team would change greatly as soon as possible.

CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (14)
Right wing: R. Panik ($2,800,000) - P. Kane ($10,500,000) - R. Hartman ($863,333) - T. Wingels ($750,000) - J. Tootoo ($700,000) - M. Hossa ($5,275,000)
Centre: J. Toews ($10,500,000) - A. Anisimov ($4,550,000) - T. Kero ($750,000) - V. Hinostroza ($717,500)
Left wing: B. Saad ($6,000,000) - P. Sharp ($800,000) - T. Jurco ($800,000) - L. Bouma ($1,000,000)

DEFENSE (6)
Right: B. Seabrook ($6,875,000) - C. Murphy ($3,850,000) - M. Rozsival ($650,000)
Left: D. Keith ($5,538,462) - M. Kempny ($900,000) - G. Forsling ($872,500)

GOALTENDER (2)
C. Crawford ($6,000,000) - A. Forsberg ($750,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
NHL Salary Cap: $75,000,000
Bonus Overages: $3,558,000
Cap Hit: $74,999,795
Cap Space: $205

And the advantage Rozy has over this group is he speaks Czech, and Q trusts him for what he is.
- John Jaeckel

One of the slowest players I have seen play in a long time that other then a occasional hit, he has to take penalties because he cannot get back and has zero Off impact. If plays before Rutta, forsling, Kempny, Jordan Osterlie, we again will be a 1st round out. if last season taught us anything the playoffs are way faster then the regular season (speed is a premium) and the only thing that matters about the regular season is making the playoffs and getting the young guys ready to play on the playoffs. All the above means we should bring in polak or Franson as a 6/7 and let the 3 of 4 above fight for the other 3 spots. Roz should be in the ROCK or LTIR all year cash his Check.

Thought he was done at least two years ago, would have never guessed he could've played another 3 years, but it might be happening........................
- vabeachbear

he was done 2 years ago. there is only one person that does not think he is done and that list does not include Roz himself.

Aivis Kalniņš‏
@A_Kalnins


Hearing Penguins are amongst front runners for Danis Zaripov.

One of the slowest players I have seen play in a long time that other then a occasional hit, he has to take penalties because he cannot get back and has zero Off impact. If plays before Rutta, forsling, Kempny, Jordan Osterlie, we again will be a 1st round out. if last season taught us anything the playoffs are way faster then the regular season (speed is a premium) and the only thing that matters about the regular season is making the playoffs and getting the young guys ready to play on the playoffs. All the above means we should bring in polak or Franson as a 6/7 and let the 3 of 4 above fight for the other 3 spots. Roz should be in the ROCK or LTIR all year cash his Check.
- kmw4631

Not disagreeing with all your post, but what we learned last season is a team does not need to win the division, or conference, to get to the SCF. One thing I hope Q changes this season is he will let the kids learn on the job, make mistakes early in the year, and use those mistakes as teaching points, not reasons to place players in the doghouse. Playing well at the end of the season is most important.

We've been through the discourse about Scmaultz previously. Much of his pro and con, value and dis- service to team success lies within the same realm of opportunity witnessed when TT was here.

But now there is a greater need for an offensive player to step up. Consider your strategy from an opposition point - of- view. It must be, just blanket coverage Kane. Make Toews and whomever beat you. Panarin was that surreal talent and Hossa could contribute. Saad is a different offensive style than Panarin, one whom I would be less concerned to stop from getting a good look than Panarin.

Into the void may Scmaultz skate. He risks becoming a role player if the entire league pounds him, and realizes he does not engage successfully with his way of checking.

Schmautz is not exactly a workout warrior, supposedly. Well it is his attitude and willingness that needs to change. It is a physical sport and you have to be strong. Build some strength into your body like Kane has done. You are not expected to be banging along the boards but Schmautz needs now to step up his physicality or BOTH he and the team will suffer from his non compliance.
- jhawk59

There are some real undeniable differences between TT and Schmaltz. I'd argue that TT has more raw talent when it comes to playmaking/passing but Schmaltz already seems to be a better player away from the puck. He back-checks more, competes more 1 on 1 and is less adverse to contact. I think Schmaltz will benefit from the added experience at the pro level. I don't think any of us here really see his attitude or willingness and a lot of assumptions are made. For a young guy who was first year pro, he had a good rookie season. The coaches gave him feedback, sent him down and he worked on it and came back better.

Not disagreeing with all your post, but what we learned last season is a team does not need to win the division, or conference, to get to the SCF. One thing I hope Q changes this season is he will let the kids learn on the job, make mistakes early in the year, and use those mistakes as teaching points, not reasons to place players in the doghouse. Playing well at the end of the season is most important.
- powerenforcer

I am assuming here, but I assume that some of it is just how Q manages the team depending on the player and their response/attitude/situation. Not saying you aren't right, but I would think Q also does some of it as motivation or consequences to have the young guys on the roster fighting to playing time. It would be interesting to hear what the coaches are telling the players and what these guys are responding with to really understand the situation. I'm sure there are situations where the feedback from the vets on the team impacts this as well. They probably don't enjoying working their butts off to have some unready kid making mistakes and costing the Hawks points in the standings.

NEWS: Caps sign Jyrki Jokipakka to pro tryout agreement. pic.twitter.com/AAOGXU9PbK

— CapitalsPR (@CapitalsPR) September 5, 2017

Interesting perspective in here - definitely brings to mind the NSH / CHI series last year

https://theathletic.com/9...-probably-ruining-hockey/

What is Ken Holland doing?

@DarrenDreger
Andreas Athanasiou in ongoing discussions with KHL teams. Unless something shifts in Detroit, indications are Athanasiou will jump to KHL.

Aivis Kalniņš‏
@A_Kalnins


Hearing Penguins are amongst front runners for Danis Zaripov.
- kmw4631

Malkin wants to play with him!

Assuming Stan wants to get as close to the cap ceiling as possible before putting Hossa on LTIR I wanted to see how close he could get. Now, I'm not suggesting this is the long term roster, this is just the combination that gets the team closest to $75,000,000. I would assume the team would change greatly as soon as possible.

CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (14)
Right wing: R. Panik ($2,800,000) - P. Kane ($10,500,000) - R. Hartman ($863,333) - T. Wingels ($750,000) - J. Tootoo ($700,000) - M. Hossa ($5,275,000)
Centre: J. Toews ($10,500,000) - A. Anisimov ($4,550,000) - T. Kero ($750,000) - V. Hinostroza ($717,500)
Left wing: B. Saad ($6,000,000) - P. Sharp ($800,000) - T. Jurco ($800,000) - L. Bouma ($1,000,000)

DEFENSE (6)
Right: B. Seabrook ($6,875,000) - C. Murphy ($3,850,000) - M. Rozsival ($650,000)
Left: D. Keith ($5,538,462) - M. Kempny ($900,000) - G. Forsling ($872,500)

GOALTENDER (2)
C. Crawford ($6,000,000) - A. Forsberg ($750,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
NHL Salary Cap: $75,000,000
Bonus Overages: $3,558,000
Cap Hit: $74,999,795
Cap Space: $205
- DarthKane

So number 8 starts the year in the minors for 1 game. I mean he won't play there but...

Aivis Kalniņš‏
@A_Kalnins


Hearing Penguins are amongst front runners for Danis Zaripov.
- kmw4631

Not to beat a dead horse... but Zaripov seems likes a player that could benefit the Hawks and fits in with the current rebuild on the fly mentality.

One of the slowest players I have seen play in a long time that other then a occasional hit, he has to take penalties because he cannot get back and has zero Off impact. If plays before Rutta, forsling, Kempny, Jordan Osterlie, we again will be a 1st round out. if last season taught us anything the playoffs are way faster then the regular season (speed is a premium) and the only thing that matters about the regular season is making the playoffs and getting the young guys ready to play on the playoffs. All the above means we should bring in polak or Franson as a 6/7 and let the 3 of 4 above fight for the other 3 spots. Roz should be in the ROCK or LTIR all year cash his Check.
- kmw4631

If Rozy plays ahead of any of the kids I scratch my head and ask, what good is ast. coach Samuelson doing? Moreover, at the beginning of the season you would guess a young kid gets some rope to see if he hangs himself with too many mistakes. If Rozy plays more than once every few games, I suggest Bowman may be talking to Q. If Rozy plays I wonder if he fails badly enough whereas Q has no other choice to play kids. Sure, Rozy can keep it simple but sooner or later he is going to be a liability.

I realize it is said d-men take the longest to ripen/sometimes it is just repetition of the same fire drill. For example retrieving the puck and moving it to the right place on a dump in. I also want to stress that the same top two men cannot be solely responsible for all the Pp and Pk plus be the mail carriers. So Murphy solves that by assuming some special teams and third pair minutes? Where do you put Murphy? Sure as heck doesn't gain confidence and improve if he is a third pair. We need a Forsling and or Kempny to move the puck. Not veterans you mention whom are barely if any better from the get go. Long term those kids need to sink or swim NOW and if they aren't ready, I try them again later in the season.

Just jumping in here .I think Peeters and Raddysh could be future sleepers out of this gang . Debrincat concerns me, seen him live a couple times then in the WJ and memorial cup .Did not do a whole lot in the games I seen ,but his numbers are hard to ignore . Hope I am wrong like they say u can't teach scoring .. Nobody drafted Dino ,the broken leg did not help but still ..