He played okay during the prospect challenge but I didn't think he was that good, Guhle however was very, very impressive.

- gordong

Yeah he said Guhle still needs to mature, and then said something about how Pu should get a chance in training camp

Seems like negotiation tactics. Start high, battle as long as you think there's benefit in doing so. I doubt even Eichel thinks he's getting 11.5.
- RhinoFan

i think they'll settle on something between 75-80 mil over 8 years

Hamilton said he thinks Eichel's camp is at 11.5 mil.

Wow
- sbroads24

(frank) it...who is the last player that the Sabres had who was this good? Hasek? Perreault?....pay the kid.

(frank) it...who is the last player that the Sabres had who was this good? Hasek? Perreault?....pay the kid.
- feetontheair22

im sure the cap guy feels the same way

(frank) it...who is the last player that the Sabres had who was this good? Hasek? Perreault?....pay the kid.
- feetontheair22

Seriously. Are we gonna play Russian roulette and let him play out his contract and then maybe have to pay him 11 or 12 if he has a good year (or someone offer sheets him) or just bite the bullet and give him 10 now. I say give the man his money. He will be (probably already is) worth 10 mil

im sure the cap guy feels the same way
- Sabresfan-365

Eh....screw him....he doesn't put goals in the net and asses in seats

(frank) it...who is the last player that the Sabres had who was this good? Hasek? Perreault?....pay the kid.
- feetontheair22

I'll be happy with 13 mil. Don't care as long as he's here for 8 years at minimum

I'll be happy with 13 mil. Don't care as long as he's here for 8 years at minimum
- sbroads24

This.

i think they'll settle on something between 75-80 mil over 8 years
- Sabresfan-365

Yup. I had 78-82 in my mind, but all the same. As long as there aren't developing, hard feelings...let them play their games.

Eh....screw him....he doesn't put goals in the net and asses in seats
- feetontheair22

im referring to botterill who will be most responsible for assembling a team around eichel that can win a cup...so i guess indirectly hed be doing both of those

Yup. I had 78-82 in my mind, but all the same. As long as there aren't developing, hard feelings...let them play their games.
- RhinoFan

i doubt it ever gets that far. i think right now theyre both trying to be a little greedy. he wants close to mcjesus money and botts probably wants a steal contract to help him down the line. I think by opening night they'll have something resembling a fair deal.

i doubt it ever gets that far. i think right now theyre both trying to be a little greedy. he wants close to mcjesus money and botts probably wants a steal contract to help him down the line. I think by opening night they'll have something resembling a fair deal.
- Sabresfan-365

10.5 is my guess

10.5 is my guess
- sbroads24

$84 million over 8 years is fine, the trick is going to be signing bonuses

Matthews>McDavid. You can take away someone's speed by plugging up the neutral zone. You can't take away size and strength. On top of that Matthews can dangle in a phone booth, if you wanna talk about hands. No way I'd trade Matt for McD. Did you see what a force Getzlaf was against the Oilers in this years playoffs!? He easily outplayed McD............case in point.
- Bullot

And there it is....

$84 million over 8 years is fine, the trick is going to be signing bonuses
- Stripes77

Got to get my son on skates, I need to retire in 17 years

10.5 is my guess
- sbroads24

Wouldn't be the end of the world by any means, but I wonder if there's justification for that price. Aren't many guys without hardware making that type of change...actually I think McJesus is the only one over 10 that doesn't have at least one ring. Tough to make that argument and usually logic wins out in these debates...who knows though.

Hamilton said he thinks Eichel's camp is at 11.5 mil.

Wow
- sbroads24

I said 11 to 11.5 after the McDavid Contract.

Matthews>McDavid. You can take away someone's speed by plugging up the neutral zone. You can't take away size and strength. On top of that Matthews can dangle in a phone booth, if you wanna talk about hands. No way I'd trade Matt for McD. Did you see what a force Getzlaf was against the Oilers in this years playoffs!? He easily outplayed McD............case in point.
- Bullot

And there it is....
- jochfr

I tried to read that piece, couldn't finish it. I love drugs too but this was to much.

Wouldn't be the end of the world by any means, but I wonder if there's justification for that price. Aren't many guys without hardware making that type of change...actually I think McJesus is the only one over 10 that doesn't have at least one ring. Tough to make that argument and usually logic wins out in these debates...who knows though.
- RhinoFan

IMO, you should always base contracts on future potential on not past accomplishments.

If you believe Eichel will be atop 5 center in the league for the next 8 years, then 11.5 is about right.

IMO, you should always base contracts on future potential on not past accomplishments.

If you believe Eichel will be atop 5 center in the league for the next 8 years, then 11.5 is about right.
- sbroads24

In a perfect world every contract would be 1 year, you get paid on how you performed last year, that way, every year is a contract year and every player will play to their limit to get that money next year.

Obviously in the real world that would never work for many, many reasons.

IMO, you should always base contracts on future potential on not past accomplishments.

If you believe Eichel will be atop 5 center in the league for the next 8 years, then 11.5 is about right.
- sbroads24

you're better than this

you're better than this
- Der Kaiser

Elaborate

Elaborate
- sbroads24

While youre hopelessly miserable, I would trust you with sharp objects more than a lot of the other degenerates who post around here.

However, "contracts based on potential" is a suggestion that means you'll have to wait until Friday for my scissors.

While youre hopelessly miserable, I would trust you with sharp objects more than a lot of the other degenerates who post around here.

However, "contracts based on potential" is a suggestion that means you'll have to wait until Friday for my scissors.
- Der Kaiser

If we're basing this on solely what Eichel's production has been, there's no way he's getting close to 10.

If you're basing it on what he's projecting to be, then that's where you end up, a top 5 contract for a potential top 5 center.

The worst contracts teams hand out are the ones that are based on past performance and not future projections

See Brent Seabrook's deal. He's 32, and about a 4-5 mil player, who's now making 7 for an eternity

If we're basing this on solely what Eichel's production has been, there's no way he's getting close to 10.

If you're basing it on what he's projecting to be, then that's where you end up, a top 5 contract for a potential top 5 center.

The worst contracts teams hand out are the ones that are based on past performance and not future projections

See Brent Seabrook's deal. He's 32, and about a 4-5 mil player, who's now making 7 for an eternity
- sbroads24

Kane was the only player over a PPG 2 years ago and he got a 10 mil contract. Eichel was like .94 PPG last year at a tougher position and that's allowing for some inflation in a stagnating cap market. I don't think it's unreasonable to think 10m is close to market value