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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:55 PM ET
If we're basing this on solely what Eichel's production has been, there's no way he's getting close to 10.

If you're basing it on what he's projecting to be, then that's where you end up, a top 5 contract for a potential top 5 center.

The worst contracts teams hand out are the ones that are based on past performance and not future projections

See Brent Seabrook's deal. He's 32, and about a 4-5 mil player, who's now making 7 for an eternity

- sbroads24


Here's the thing - you write a lot of your posts based on extremes. Nobody is going to write a contract based SOLELY on past performance, and nobody will write them SOLELY on potential because nobody can predict the future.

And by the way, for every mistake made on the basis of past performance (see, e.g., Seabrook) I will show you a mistake based on potential (see, e.g. Ville fukcing Leino).

Also, if he plays into the starting position, Peterman probably wont be SOLELY suck or SOLELY homerun. He'll probably be a blend, just like the rest of life.
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 8:05 PM ET
Matthews>McDavid. You can take away someone's speed by plugging up the neutral zone. You can't take away size and strength. On top of that Matthews can dangle in a phone booth, if you wanna talk about hands. No way I'd trade Matt for McD. Did you see what a force Getzlaf was against the Oilers in this years playoffs!? He easily outplayed McD............case in point.
- Bullot


And there it is....

- jochfr


If only there were phone booths on the ice ....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 12 @ 8:09 PM ET
Here's the thing - you write a lot of your posts based on extremes. Nobody is going to write a contract based SOLELY on past performance, and nobody will write them SOLELY on potential because nobody can predict the future.

And by the way, for every mistake made on the basis of past performance (see, e.g., Seabrook) I will show you a mistake based on potential (see, e.g. Ville fukcing Leino).

Also, if he plays into the starting position, Peterman probably wont be SOLELY suck or SOLELY homerun. He'll probably be a blend, just like the rest of life.

- Der Kaiser

Leino was signed when he was 28 years old. That's not remotely the same as Eichel at 20.

And I'm talking about in house players or RFA's. Not UFA's that EVERYONE has to overpay or give up too much term.

LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:19 PM ET
If we're basing this on solely what Eichel's production has been, there's no way he's getting close to 10.

If you're basing it on what he's projecting to be, then that's where you end up, a top 5 contract for a potential top 5 center.

The worst contracts teams hand out are the ones that are based on past performance and not future projections

See Brent Seabrook's deal. He's 32, and about a 4-5 mil player, who's now making 7 for an eternity

- sbroads24

this is a good post
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM ET
Kane was the only player over a PPG 2 years ago and he got a 10 mil contract. Eichel was like .94 PPG last year at a tougher position and that's allowing for some inflation in a stagnating cap market. I don't think it's unreasonable to think 10m is close to market value
- jcragcrumple

this is a real good post
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:20 PM ET
Leino was signed when he was 28 years old. That's not remotely the same as Eichel at 20.

And I'm talking about in house players or RFA's. Not UFA's that EVERYONE has to overpay or give up too much term.

- sbroads24

I like this post, too
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
Here's the thing - you write a lot of your posts based on extremes. Nobody is going to write a contract based SOLELY on past performance, and nobody will write them SOLELY on potential because nobody can predict the future.

And by the way, for every mistake made on the basis of past performance (see, e.g., Seabrook) I will show you a mistake based on potential (see, e.g. Ville fukcing Leino).

Also, if he plays into the starting position, Peterman probably wont be SOLELY suck or SOLELY homerun. He'll probably be a blend, just like the rest of life.

- Der Kaiser

This is a solid post
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
If only there were phone booths on the ice ....
- JetpackJesus

potd
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 8:38 PM ET
Leino was signed when he was 28 years old. That's not remotely the same as Eichel at 20.

And I'm talking about in house players or RFA's. Not UFA's that EVERYONE has to overpay or give up too much term.

- sbroads24


Your post at 6:39PM
"IMO, you should always base contracts on future potential on not past accomplishments."

Nothing about "always" means only 20 year old inhouse or RFA.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 12 @ 8:54 PM ET
Your post at 6:39PM
"IMO, you should always base contracts on future potential on not past accomplishments."

Nothing about "always" means only 20 year old inhouse or RFA.

- Der Kaiser

Ok, well that's what I was talking about, because Eichel was the topic of discussion.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
Positive vibes LandlordTom, ha love it

Conspiracy thetheoryr here: they're waiting on giving Jack his new contract and forcing him to play with Beniot Pouliot to keep his stats down to sign him long term on the cheap next year.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: why bitch about no new blogs, when all you're going to do is post the same, tired stuff day after da, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:21 PM ET
Positive vibes LandlordTom, ha love it

Conspiracy thetheoryr here: they're waiting on giving Jack his new contract and forcing him to play with Beniot Pouliot to keep his stats down to sign him long term on the cheap next year.

- washedup20

Yikes!
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 9:27 PM ET
Now harsh words from Bettman on Calgary's sudden about face on the same day Seattle announces an arena deal. I'm never shy to criticize the Pegula's for their lack of game day success, but it's times like this when you think of the most rock solid Canadian franchises deep in the heart of Canada could move, that a team like Buffalo could have w/out the Pegula's
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:36 PM ET
Now harsh words from Bettman on Calgary's sudden about face on the same day Seattle announces an arena deal. I'm never shy to criticize the Pegula's for their lack of game day success, but it's times like this when you think of the most rock solid Canadian franchises deep in the heart of Canada could move, that a team like Buffalo could have w/out the Pegula's
- Buffalo--Sabres



Flames arnt going anywhere, Bettman wants that expansion money.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Sep 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Flames arnt going anywhere, Bettman wants that expansion money.
- washedup20


In Quebec, to make up for the flames relocating. To Seattle.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:45 PM ET
Wtf, am I really (frank)ing hammered or is there a new user interface on this female dog?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:52 PM ET
Wtf, am I really (frank)ing hammered or is there a new user interface on this female dog?
- Der Kaiser


You're hammered. There was a tiny update a couple months ago that changed the preview and submit buttons.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 12 @ 10:52 PM ET
You're hammered. There was a tiny update a couple months ago that changed the preview and submit buttons.
- Wetbandit1

Mine is different right now
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:57 PM ET
Wtf, am I really (frank)ing hammered or is there a new user interface on this female dog?
- Der Kaiser



It's only different on my phone, my iPad it's the same

Same same but different
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:00 PM ET
It's only different on my phone, my iPad it's the same

Same same but different

- washedup20


It's the mobile site being streamlined for iPhone X and the new iOS
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:00 PM ET
Mine is different right now
- sbroads24


Are you on a phone? It's the same on my computer.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 12 @ 11:00 PM ET
It's only different on my phone, my iPad it's the same

Same same but different

- washedup20

It sucks and has advertisements in between posts...
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:01 PM ET
It's the mobile site being streamlined for iPhone X and the new iOS
- Der Kaiser


Is it any better?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 12 @ 11:01 PM ET
Are you on a phone? It's the same on my computer.
- Wetbandit1

Mobile is all a sh!t sandwich.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 12 @ 11:03 PM ET
Are you on a phone? It's the same on my computer.
- Wetbandit1

iPhone
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