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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 13 @ 6:00 PM ET
More ice would make the game so much more exciting. Could you imagine 3v3 OT on bigger ice?
- doppelthat


Most teams would clog the middle of the ice near the slot but having Eichel on an Olympic Ice would be amazing to watch
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 6:07 PM ET
feel like it was on purpose. Most of them were intelligent, mcjesus' answer is where im at right now.

I dont know if bigger ice is the solution or change in rules but the game is dying in the neutral zone and they've gotta fix that.

Im not convinced you can do that with rule changes though. Zone/boring basketball was king until a coach came along and killed it.

The offside trap and parking the bus was king in soccer until coaches constructed formations that exploited that.

Imo we are still waiting on hockeys revolutionary coach. The one who will come in with the philosophy that is far more exciting/effective than dump and chase and one that cant be defended by the 1-3-1, at least for 60 mins.

- Sabresfan-365



The problem is the amount of space a hockey player can cover vs a basketball or the other football player can.

1-3-1 or just 1-4 works because they can cover the entire width of the ice, in soccer you just get fast guy out on the wing and defeat a trap(the ball just has to be in the air before you can get behind the defense right?), basketball you can just launch 3's all day. There's no analog in hockey.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 6:09 PM ET
With the limited space, the players size and speed, and the rules like icing and offsides, beating the trap is not going to be changed by some revolutionary coaching change. The rules in place such as icing and offsides will keep the trap alive. They tried beating it with the hybrid icing and the "wrap around dump" but that's not feasible for every line, every player to be able to do.

The trap sucks


- Stripes77


I can't believe that was 6 years ago already.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
Can we start the Evander Kane for Pasta trade rumors? I want to dream a little.


Mittsy Jack Pasta
RoR Tavares Skunker



Let the good times roll.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
Can we start the Evander Kane for Pasta trade rumors? I want to dream a little.


Mittsy Jack Pasta
RoR Tavares Skunker



Let the good times roll.

- RhinoFan


And that would be the entire team with what these guys are going to get paid.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:33 PM ET
And that would be the entire team with what these guys are going to get paid.
- Wetbandit1


Lol

6.0 - 11.5 - 10.0
7.0 - 10.5 - 6.0

Risto - 5.5

56.5 mil in cap...datz a tough pill to swallow

But holy (frank) would it be an awesome team to watch!

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 13 @ 7:48 PM ET
And that would be the entire team with what these guys are going to get paid.
- Wetbandit1


First line plays 30 minutes, Second line plays 30...I don't see what the problem is.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 13 @ 7:50 PM ET
Lol

6.0 - 11.5 - 10.0
7.0 - 10.5 - 6.0

Risto - 5.5

56.5 mil in cap...datz a tough pill to swallow

But holy (frank) would it be an awesome team to watch!

- feetontheair22


Mittsy Jack Pasta
RoR Tavares Skunker
D-Lo D-Lo D-Lo
D-Lo D-Lo D-Lo

Fixed for cap compliance.
Dukey3030
Location: Buffalo
Joined: 07.24.2016

Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
The one guy I am most curious about is CJ Smith.

He didn't get a good look here last season, but after watching the Prospect Challenge he can fly.

He will most likely start in Rochester but he is someone that can be that mid season call up if he finds his scoring touch.

- Stripes77

I completely agree. He dominated the prospects challenge, but he needed to do that. But even in the 3 games he played in Buffalo I watched him closely and I really like how his game translates into the NHL. Obviously it was a small sample size, and he did look lost in the defensive end at times. But that's to be expected when you're tossed to the wolves like that.

I love his speed, and playmaking ability. And he was known for being a dominant 2-way player in college, so there's no reason to think that won't come with experience and confidence. I could see him being a VERY good fit on a line with O'Reilly and Okposo - he'll add much needed speed on the left side...
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
The problem is the amount of space a hockey player can cover vs a basketball or the other football player can.

1-3-1 or just 1-4 works because they can cover the entire width of the ice, in soccer you just get fast guy out on the wing and defeat a trap(the ball just has to be in the air before you can get behind the defense right?), basketball you can just launch 3's all day. There's no analog in hockey.

- Wetbandit1



offside trap is the line pushing up as the ball is delivered, its specifically designed to trick teams into doing just that.

i agree theres a tougher challenge because of the speed and by extension the surface area but i still think this is their best shot at overcoming boring ass hockey. I dont think theres really a set of rule changes that could tackle it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM ET
Can we start the Evander Kane for Pasta trade rumors? I want to dream a little.


Mittsy Jack Pasta
RoR Tavares Skunker



Let the good times roll.

- RhinoFan

as long as you have a spot for Matt Freaking Ellis
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:17 PM ET
offside trap is the line pushing up as the ball is delivered, its specifically designed to trick teams into doing just that.

i agree theres a tougher challenge because of the speed and by extension the surface area but i still think this is their best shot at overcoming boring ass hockey. I dont think theres really a set of rule changes that could tackle it.

- Sabresfan-365



I admit I don't watch a ton of soccer, but most of what I see is played on the perimeter with a push toward the goal once they get down low.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
as long as you have a spot for Matt Freaking Ellis
- homiedclown


Someone has to play defense...he can be our bottom pairing.

Speaking of bottom pairing. I hope Gorges gets some time there after one of our good defenders is injured...not before.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM ET
I admit I don't watch a ton of soccer, but most of what I see is played on the perimeter with a push toward the goal once they get down low.
- Wetbandit1


this is what most of premier league soccer is but not to beat the offside trap its just what these teams have decided to build around.

would also explain why its been some time since they made any noise in the champions league lol
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Someone has to play defense...he can be our bottom pairing.

Speaking of bottom pairing. I hope Gorges gets some time there after one of our good defenders is injured...not before.

- RhinoFan


im surprised that trade doesnt get talked about as often. that 2nd rounder turned into alex debrincat

Edit: helped the habs get shaw
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
If increasing ice width to International size will cost too much to reno or loses too many seats league wide, the next best option is to move the blue lines closer to center ice. Increase offensive zone without any reno. Boom. You're welcome Bill Daly. Don't forget the underscore when making the check out to Hatboro_Swords. That's right...Ice...Man. I am dangerous
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Sep 13 @ 9:45 PM ET
If increasing ice width to International size will cost too much to reno or loses too many seats league wide, the next best option is to move the blue lines closer to center ice. Increase offensive zone without any reno. Boom. You're welcome Bill Daly. Don't forget the underscore when making the check out to Hatboro_Swords. That's right...Ice...Man. I am dangerous
- Hatboro_Swords


I was like...."wtf does Reno, Nevada have to do with it??"
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:46 PM ET
im surprised that trade doesnt get talked about as often. that 2nd rounder turned into alex debrincat

Edit: helped the habs get shaw

- Sabresfan-365


I think it's just overshadowed by other missteps like the McNabb trade.

Oh well...sometimes you trade Paul Gaustad for a 1st...other times you trade a 2nd away for a washed up vet. Or as my father would say, "Sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue."

Makes me all the more pleased with the Bottering Ram's decisions thus far.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM ET
If increasing ice width to International size will cost too much to reno or loses too many seats league wide, the next best option is to move the blue lines closer to center ice. Increase offensive zone without any reno. Boom. You're welcome Bill Daly. Don't forget the underscore when making the check out to Hatboro_Swords. That's right...Ice...Man. I am dangerous
- Hatboro_Swords


Olympic ice would be too big. Take out a row, maybe 2, and that would be plenty. But retrofitting all the arenas would be seriously expensive. They'd have to extend the pad, and all the pipes underneath that make the ice.
RLexi1996
Los Angeles Kings
Location: SnAp AdDiCtS , CA
Joined: 08.23.2017

Sep 13 @ 10:09 PM ET
Anyone heard from Christian lately?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 13 @ 10:10 PM ET
More ice would make the game so much more exciting. Could you imagine 3v3 OT on bigger ice?
- doppelthat



Not really. The game is still played and won between the hashmarks. You take that away and it doesn't matter how large the ice surface is. As Ray Ferraro put it, most of the extra ice on the Olympic rink is useless ice. The fact that the 2010 Olympics (on an NHL sized rink) was no more or less exciting than the 2014 Olympics (in Russia, on International sized ice) proves that point.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 13 @ 10:47 PM ET
Anyone heard from Christian lately?
- RLexi1996


He put in a waiver claim in fantasy football, so I'm guessing he's still alive.
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:01 PM ET
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 11:50 PM ET
Can we start the Evander Kane for Pasta trade rumors? I want to dream a little.


Mittsy Jack Pasta
RoR Tavares Skunker



Let the good times roll.

- RhinoFan


Pasta??
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 14 @ 1:31 AM ET
Pasta??
- gordong


Pastrnak
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