We kept Gaunce
- Nucker101

But lost Cramarossa.

We naming anyone if converted can play D better than Subban?

But lost Cramarossa.
- dbot

Oh don't worry you can have him back in a couple weeks

Jesus..don't think I've ever seen as awesome of a highlight video with zero goals actually scored.

Jesus..don't think I've ever seen as awesome of a highlight video with zero goals actually scored.
- Nucker101

He's no Subban!

He's no Subban!
- K-man25

If Subban was a C then that'd be an interesting conversation.

I think there is a huge difference in what WD or TG consider a 4th line.
WD played the plugs & TG wants a real NHLer to earn the spot.
- Nighthawk

true. good point

One is likely a career AHLer the other a true prospect.
JV has what it takes if he goes for it 100%.
- Nighthawk

I saw a big improvement in him last season. Looking more like a potentially decent Dman. Previously he didnt look like 1 at all. So there is hope for him yet.
Green and nolan sure transformed him

Agreed on Subban, I think they should try him out at wing tbh.

I really think people here have JV's realistic upside confused with what they think is his floor, not many guys with his lack of development since being drafted end up become even good 3rd liners. I'd say at best that's what he's going to become now. At worst, he's out of the league and in the AHL or bouncing around to a few different organizations as a reclamation project.
- Nucker101

Ive been saying that very same thing for the last 2 years.

But his game has become more like a D recently. Still bet he'd light it up as a winger

I absolutely agree regarding Subban. I don't think he will ever defend at an NHL but he certainly has potential up front. I got roasted earlier for saying something similar re. Virt lol.

I am slightly more positive about Virtanen than you...but only slightly
- CanuckDon

so flip them around....Jake will play D

could just be the answer for both players

Ive been saying that very same thing for the last 2 years.

But his game has become more like a D recently. Still bet he'd light it up as a winger
- SMBDragon

I'll take that bet.

He won't fly down the ice.
He won't blast one on the rush.
He won't win puck battles against D.
Soft as butter hiding on the wing.

Add it all up & big fat nada

beat me to it also, clown is a very hurtful word
- CanuckDon

Probably moreso since that clown movie came out where they killing kids and that...

I saw a big improvement in him last season. Looking more like a potentially decent Dman. Previously he didnt look like 1 at all. So there is hope for him yet.
Green and nolan sure transformed him
- SMBDragon

Maybe his brother should give him some pointers and teach him how to play defense... you'd think he'd learn from him at least...

Maybe his brother should give him some pointers and teach him how to play defense... you'd think he'd learn from him at least...
- kaptaan

Maybe he should grow to be the size of his brother. Another 3 inches and 30 lbs. Probably wouldn't have any problems then.

Probably moreso since that clown movie came out where they killing kids and that...
- kaptaan

Going to see a bunch of clowns walking around again?

Going to see a bunch of clowns walking around again?
- manvanfan

i heard clowns were protesting somewhere cuz the movie "killed" their business... no one hiring clowns now...

i heard clowns were protesting somewhere cuz the movie "killed" their business... no one hiring clowns now...
- kaptaan

Happens in this thread as well.

Happens in this thread as well.
- VanHockeyGuy

Are you saying one particular clown kills these threads?

Are you saying one particular clown kills these threads?
- LeftCoaster

Not saying that at all. Nice bait attempt.

Are you saying one particular clown kills these threads?
- LeftCoaster

i heard clowns were protesting somewhere cuz the movie "killed" their business... no one hiring clowns now...
- kaptaan

I want to keep the game going
- Nucker101

Morning hate? 😍

Probably moreso since that clown movie came out where they killing kids and that...
- kaptaan

Plus there is the juggallo March in Washington tomorrow to think about.
King clown in the white house and all that.
Clown lives matter.
🤡

Where's this stacked defensive depth chart that people keep referring to in terms of Subban being passed over?

None of those bums, with the exception of McEney, have played against men. Very few of them even looked good in the young stars tourney for Christ sakes lol.

Morning hate? 😍
- Pres.cup

hasn't had his morning cup of coffee yet