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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
https://www.milehighhockey.com/2017/9/15/16311586/did-the-colorado-avalanche-strip-matt-duchene-of-his-assistant-captian


Wow they're a mess

- Stripes77


What the (frank) are they doing?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account @pham1717 2h2 hours ago

Housley just stopped practice and lit into them hard for not attacking hard enough and not having enough speed. He wasn't happy.


Also Malone and Nylander are week to week...not good for those thinking Nylander would make the team out of camp
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
What the (frank) are they doing?
- Wetbandit1



Losing value more and more

Every single GM knows Sakic is in a no win situation now. McCabe and a 2nd for Duchene is all I would offer and see how long Sakic holds out.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
What the (frank) are they doing?
- Wetbandit1


1. Mile High is hot garbage now since they changed Editor to that Tom Hunter guy and hes a leaf fans who writes troll articles. He doesnt know the Avs, fights with the fan base who comments with the site, and gernally doesnt care about factual reporting with them, he loves himself and his opinion (Hes basically James Tanner)

2. Duchene was the away game A. He never wore it at home, which was shots in the Home game sweaters. They started with one month Mack was Home, then Dutch was Home A...but the end the season it was all mack at home with the A


people are pathetic just eating up this kind of garbage wanting to get cheap clicks with the LOLorado stuff
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
1. Mile High is hot garbage now since they changed Editor to that Tom Hunter guy and hes a leaf fans who writes troll articles.

2. Duchene was the away game A. He never wore it at home, which was shots in the Home game sweaters. They started with one month Mack was Home, then Dutch was Home A...but the end the season it was all mack at home with the A


people are pathetic just eating up this kind of garbage wanting to get cheap clicks with the LOLorado stuff

- DDM-Coga



I have never seen that before until now...But I kinda like it!

Sorry Coga
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account @pham1717 2h2 hours ago

Housley just stopped practice and lit into them hard for not attacking hard enough and not having enough speed. He wasn't happy.


Also Malone and Nylander are week to week...not good for those thinking Nylander would make the team out of camp

- Stripes77

"Book it"


DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:36 PM ET
I have never seen that before until now...But I kinda like it!

Sorry Coga

- Stripes77


oh its the common theme on hockey twitter. People like to troll them with this, then every one comes together to congratulate one anotehr on how they made fun of the Avs

Avs are bad....HOORAY sick joke bud!
Avs have 4 dmen signed...HORRAY, you nailed them!
Avs signed a bust in Yak...HOORAY, LOLorado am I right!

You can make fun of the Avs but lets come up with more unique ways to do it
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:38 PM ET
oh its the common theme on hockey twitter. People like to troll them with this, then every one comes together to congratulate one anotehr on how they made fun of the Avs

Avs are bad....HOORAY sick joke bud!
Avs have 4 dmen signed...HORRAY, you nailed them!
Avs signed a bust in Yak...HOORAY, LOLorado am I right!

You can make fun of the Avs but lets come up with more unique ways to do it

- DDM-Coga


We know how you feel. Sabres.. been there. Done that.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:40 PM ET
We know how you feel. Sabres.. been there. Done that.
- burner087


every Avs team witter post...those mention are a dumpster fire. Damn millennials with their avocado toast
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
Thanks Mike
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:44 PM ET
Hey just think 10 more years I may be able to support myself on without any contribution from my parents.
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 1:51 PM ET
Cc wetbandit
- Sabresfan-365


Balls?

To be fair I still really like McGinn. $3.3M for 2 more years. He was bad on, in Tanner's world the worst team to lace'em up? You don't say? The Coyotes were beyond awful last year and made so many questionable lineup decisions it's a wonder anybody had a good year, wait... no one did. The one rock solid stud they have in OEL sucked last year too. Suck may be stretching it, but it was a bad year for him. McGinn went 20, only played 47 games, but had 11 goals, 19, 22 goals. Is he going to light the world on fire? No. Is he a good 3rd liner that can play 1st and 2nd line spot duty? Yes. He was scoring 20 goals with 14 minutes of ice time. He went for the money, and it bit him on the ass.

End of rant.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 1:54 PM ET
1. Mile High is hot garbage now since they changed Editor to that Tom Hunter guy and hes a leaf fans who writes troll articles. He doesnt know the Avs, fights with the fan base who comments with the site, and gernally doesnt care about factual reporting with them, he loves himself and his opinion (Hes basically James Tanner)

2. Duchene was the away game A. He never wore it at home, which was shots in the Home game sweaters. They started with one month Mack was Home, then Dutch was Home A...but the end the season it was all mack at home with the A


people are pathetic just eating up this kind of garbage wanting to get cheap clicks with the LOLorado stuff

- DDM-Coga



I wasn't commenting only on the article.

I genuinely want to know what the (frank) they are doing. Duchene should've been moved at the draft. They have way too much talent to be tank-era Sabres bad.

Edit: I see pics where he's wearing the A at home and also pics where he's not wearing the A on the road, so it doesn't seem like it's a 50/50 split. Every other game maybe?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
I wasn't commenting only on the article.

I genuinely want to know what the (frank) they are doing. Duchene should've been moved at the draft. They have way too much talent to be tank-era Sabres bad.

- Wetbandit1


Lebrun mentioned it, saying that sakic told him at the draft if they didnt get the price they wanted then, he can see Duchene being on the team at camp as he wouldnt see GMs meeting it during the summer.

From teh sounds of it they have been getting low balled hard, teams trying to say hes a 40 point Center and offering up nothing the Avs want. If he really was a 40 point center a team would be trying to trade for him for the past 8 months.

They wont be bullied into a bad deal, and have no issues holding onto a guy thats still important to the team. Just bc Duchene had his feelings hurt, hes not going to throw a deal together to make it easier on him
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
I wasn't commenting only on the article.

I genuinely want to know what the (frank) they are doing. Duchene should've been moved at the draft. They have way too much talent to be tank-era Sabres bad.

Edit: I see pics where he's wearing the A at home and also pics where he's not wearing the A on the road, so it doesn't seem like it's a 50/50 split. Every other game maybe?

- Wetbandit1


Beauchemin was a full time A last year, Mack/Dutch split it home and away this switched home and away the next month.

But its a stupid non story. He didnt wear an A in a headshot jumbo tron video even though they still have him listed as an A on the website. like I said, That tom hunter guy is junk.

Edit: it's not a great situation but avs fans are tired of seeing everyone trying to vilify the avs and Sakic like some sort of monsters out to get duchene
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
Balls?

To be fair I still really like McGinn. $3.3M for 2 more years. He was bad on, in Tanner's world the worst team to lace'em up? You don't say? The Coyotes were beyond awful last year and made so many questionable lineup decisions it's a wonder anybody had a good year, wait... no one did. The one rock solid stud they have in OEL sucked last year too. Suck may be stretching it, but it was a bad year for him. McGinn went 20, only played 47 games, but had 11 goals, 19, 22 goals. Is he going to light the world on fire? No. Is he a good 3rd liner that can play 1st and 2nd line spot duty? Yes. He was scoring 20 goals with 14 minutes of ice time. He went for the money, and it bit him on the ass.

End of rant.

- Wetbandit1



I wonder if that could be a trade for moulson. McGinn for Moulson and and a 3rd? Idk how serious the Coyotes are about winning now, but Moulson, Pronger and datsyuk together sounds pretty dangerous
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
Because so many teams play retirement games with over the hill players now, I wonder if Moulson, at the end of the year, could come down with incurable plantar fasciitis, or simply retire and then get a job at the academy of hockey. Couldn't the Pegulas give him a 5 year contract with some bogus title like "player liason" for 2 mil a year so he could recoup his lost earnings?

Tl;Dr

Everyone is playing games with past their prime players, why not us with moulson?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
looking at a few trade offers I received

leonard fournette is the 3rd leading rusher in the nfl

he is a bell cow running back, meaning they are going to run the sh!t out of him

he can catch passes


don't waste my time or your time by offering me the second or 3rd best wr on a team (adams, crabtree)

if I am selling, I am selling high so you need to offer me someone like cooks, michael thomas, etc


hell right now i should be asking for mike evans or obj honestly
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
Lebrun mentioned it, saying that sakic told him at the draft if they didnt get the price they wanted then, he can see Duchene being on the team at camp as he wouldnt see GMs meeting it during the summer.

From teh sounds of it they have been getting low balled hard, teams trying to say hes a 40 point Center and offering up nothing the Avs want. If he really was a 40 point center a team would be trying to trade for him for the past 8 months.

They wont be bullied into a bad deal, and have no issues holding onto a guy thats still important to the team. Just bc Duchene had his feelings hurt, hes not going to throw a deal together to make it easier on him

- DDM-Coga


The problem is he's been on the trading block for far too long. At some point, it's going to start to bother the player. They are human beings with feelings/emotions. Yes, having to deal with this type is stuff is part of the job/territory of being an athlete, but this situation has dragged on for far too long. To be quite honest, up until recently, I was amazed that he didn't seem to be letting it get to him.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
Lebrun mentioned it, saying that sakic told him at the draft if they didnt get the price they wanted then, he can see Duchene being on the team at camp as he wouldnt see GMs meeting it during the summer.

From teh sounds of it they have been getting low balled hard, teams trying to say hes a 40 point Center and offering up nothing the Avs want. If he really was a 40 point center a team would be trying to trade for him for the past 8 months.

They wont be bullied into a bad deal, and have no issues holding onto a guy thats still important to the team. Just bc Duchene had his feelings hurt, hes not going to throw a deal together to make it easier on him

- DDM-Coga


The whole thing has been handled piss poorly from the start. They (frank)ed up with ROR and dealt him away for an immature, but promising defenseman just because they didn't want to pay him. And you have the whole offer sheet fiasco before that. Sakic is in way over his head. The Avs had 6 less points last year than the Sabres did when they tanked for McDavid. 6! With players like Duchene, Landeskog, MacKinnon, Barrie, Rantanen and Johnson. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
looking at a few trade offers I received

leonard fournette is the 3rd leading rusher in the nfl

he is a bell cow running back, meaning they are going to run the sh!t out of him

he can catch passes


don't waste my time or your time by offering me the second or 3rd best wr on a team (adams, crabtree)

if I am selling, I am selling high so you need to offer me someone like cooks, michael thomas, etc


hell right now i should be asking for mike evans or obj honestly

- homiedclown


One of the guys in my league has been offering another one trash for Lynch. He's offered the other guy like 4 different options and they were all awful. I don't know what people are thinking sometimes.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
The whole thing has been handled piss poorly from the start. They (frank)ed up with ROR and dealt him away for an immature, but promising defenseman just because they didn't want to pay him. And you have the whole offer sheet fiasco before that. Sakic is in way over his head. The Avs had 6 less points last year than the Sabres did when they tanked for McDavid. 6! With players like Duchene, Landeskog, MacKinnon, Barrie, Rantanen and Johnson. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
- Wetbandit1


There is so much opinion being presented in fact there, its bananas
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
The problem is he's been on the trading block for far too long. At some point, it's going to start to bother the player. They are human beings with feelings/emotions. Yes, having to deal with this type is stuff is part of the job/territory of being an athlete, but this situation has dragged on for far too long. To be quite honest, up until recently, I was amazed that he didn't seem to be letting it get to him.
- HonkFortheGoose


He quit on the team in January. He admitted to that. No Avs fan is really going to be side with Duchene bc the trade rumours and losing season got to him especially when others said they were still trying to turn things around.

Dutch flat out quit, now he is really pulling a baby act like a scolded puppy.Yeah it sucks that your GM and childhood idol has made you available for trade but that comes with the territory, either you are part of the Avs solution or they will try to find guys who area.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
There is so much opinion being presented in fact there, its bananas
- DDM-Coga


So they wanted to pay him? And they didn't totally (frank) up? How have they done since?
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Sep 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun 42s42 seconds ago
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Zadorov's new deal in Colorado worth $2.15 M AAV per season

Now give them McCabe for Duchene
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