Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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The guys on the fan 960 were trolling the Canucks lineup tonight hard enough - Redmile247
who are those guys? |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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But it still remains you have to get some pieces from elsewhere - VANTEL
Sure. Just not the majority of your core. Canucks did it right before, had about a four year window by building a core through the draft and trading for nice pieces (Salo/Hamhuis/Luongo are good examples). But our 1c, 2c, 1RW, 1LW and 2 out of our 4 top were drafted along with a lot of key role guys. Same with Chi, LA, Pitt and Bos. There's a formula for sure. Got to have that core in place before you add to it IMO. |
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It's going to be embarrassing for the Canucks, tonight. - Marwood
Looking forward to seeing how Chatfield and MacEwen do against NHLers |
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Sure. Just not the majority of your core. Canucks did it right before, had about a four year window by building a core through the draft and trading for nice pieces (Salo/Hamhuis/Luongo are good examples). But our 1c, 2c, 1RW, 1LW and 2 out of our 4 top were drafted along with a lot of key role guys. Same with Chi, LA, Pitt and Bos. There's a formula for sure. Got to have that core in place before you add to it IMO. - neem55
Lets look at the teams that have won recently . I won't count Bos because they are not multi winners. In the last 9 years (current) Chi has had Kane and Toews play right after their draft year. Malkin and Crosby played after their draft year and Kopitar and Doughty played the year following their draft. We don't have those type of impact players.
We are picking up decent players but not standouts.
For the record Bos had Lucic and Bergeron who played right after being drafted.
All of those teams went out and made huge trades and ufa signings |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Looking forward to seeing how Chatfield and MacEwen do against NHLers - VANTEL
I have a feeling not matter how well anyone plays tonight they are going to get severely schooled by a veteran laden Calgary team. It's going to a ruthless slaughter. |
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I have a feeling not matter how well anyone plays tonight they are going to get severely schooled by a veteran laden Calgary team. It's going to a ruthless slaughter. - Marwood
No doubt. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Lets look at the teams that have won recently . I won't count Bos because they are not multi winners. In the last 9 years (current) Chi has had Kane and Toews play right after their draft year. Malkin and Crosby played after their draft year and Kopitar and Doughty played the year following their draft. We don't have those type of impact players.
We are picking up decent players but not standouts. - VANTEL
No question. I truly hope we land a top3 pick, this upcoming draft is looking good and we really need the guy that can step in and be a difference right away. I think you could make a n argument that Bo has done that, albeit in a smaller way than the four you mentioned. 5 out of 6 guys you mentioned are top3 picks, you know where I stand on acquiring those picks at any cost. |
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No question. I truly hope we land a top3 pick, this upcoming draft is looking good and we really need the guy that can step in and be a difference right away. I think you could make a n argument that Bo has done that, albeit in a smaller way than the four you mentioned. 5 out of 6 guys you mentioned are top3 picks, you know where I stand on acquiring those picks at any cost. - neem55
I too want a top three player for at least two years
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I have a feeling not matter how well anyone plays tonight they are going to get severely schooled by a veteran laden Calgary team. It's going to a ruthless slaughter. - Marwood
just the way that these boards like it |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Looking forward to seeing how Chatfield and MacEwen do against NHLers - VANTEL
Canuck Army don't seem to like that signing very much...
https://canucksarmy.com/2...k-macewen/comment-page-1/
Canucks scouts: 'Let's scout Gatineau' 'Wow, this Abramov kid is great!' 'Let's sign all his bad linemates and take Lockwood instead of him'.
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Who has won a cup through drafting alone? - LordHumungous
I shouldn't have to even explain that.....really |
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DuranDuran
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Quito Joined: 09.29.2015
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All their regulars are in China ...the flames would be dumb to play any vets tonight ...give all the kids this one as that's what van is doing - Redmile247
I know. I thought I laid the sarcasm on thick enough. |
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Canuck Army don't seem to like that signing very much...
https://canucksarmy.com/2...k-macewen/comment-page-1/
Canucks scouts: 'Let's scout Gatineau' 'Wow, this Abramov kid is great!' 'Let's sign all his bad linemates and take Lockwood instead of him'.
- bloatedmosquito
The never like anyone |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Canuck Army don't seem to like that signing very much...
https://canucksarmy.com/2...k-macewen/comment-page-1/
Canucks scouts: 'Let's scout Gatineau' 'Wow, this Abramov kid is great!' 'Let's sign all his bad linemates and take Lockwood instead of him'.
- bloatedmosquito
Analytics are something that Canucks Army really base a ton of their articles from, and from this, they aren't really wrong. If Canucks did spend a ton of time watching Gatineau, they would have easily seen how good Abramov was, and would have drafted him. Having said that, its pretty premature to see if Abramov is going to be a better pick than Lockwood as neither have seen NHL ice time so its really moot. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Yeah but we are now 4 drafts in and he still does not have a player drafted on the team while players like Tkachuk Nylander Larkin Pastarnak and Ehlers all having healthy careers. The clock is ticking - VANTEL
Yup...missed opportunities but Boeser is 21 in January I think, Virtanen is 21, Demko is 20, Pettersson is 19 in November, Juolevi is 19, Dahlen is 20, Lind and Gadjovich are both 19 in October.
Bo Horvat is only 22, they'll continue to add to that group and build a core.
The only draft Benning really (frank)ed up was 2014. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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I know. I thought I laid the sarcasm on thick enough. - DuranDuran
Early mornings and sarcasm don't mix well. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Canuck Army don't seem to like that signing very much...
https://canucksarmy.com/2...k-macewen/comment-page-1/
Canucks scouts: 'Let's scout Gatineau' 'Wow, this Abramov kid is great!' 'Let's sign all his bad linemates and take Lockwood instead of him'.
Macewan is a beast. Solid signing.
- bloatedmosquito
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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But it still remains you have to get some pieces from elsewhere - VANTEL
This really doesn't really need to be said, everyone knows you need to build through trades and ufa signings as well as drafting. The fact remains that the large majority of core players are acquired through drafting this day and age and even in the past. |
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Yup...missed opportunities but Boeser is 21 in January I think, Virtanen is 21, Demko is 20, Pettersson is 19 in November, Juolevi is 19, Dahlen is 20, Lind and Gadjovich are both 19 in October.
Bo Horvat is only 22, they'll continue to add to that group and build a core. - LeftCoaster
But like you have said in the past they are not locks. You are bang on with your comments that a good draft year is one or maybe two players becoming NHL caliber so thinking Gadjovich Lind Lockwood Demko all have successful NHL careers is a reach.
Again I am not sure if any of them are top impact players. Nice players but we need to wait and see. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Green's forward roster could go for a balanced scoring approach with mix of youth and vets. Instead of lines 1-4, you get two lines that are slightly more capable and two more that can score. With RS and LS players on all 4 wings.
Top 6: LE BO Vanek then Sedins BB
Middle Six: Sven Burmistrov JV then Granlund Sutter Gagner
If the Sedins are good for mentoring then the biggest offensive weapon Canucks have now should be winging them. Bo should get vet help to take on the hard minutes. JV can add to his game playing with skilled guys. Granlund can show he's got the offensive chops by making Sutter look good who will cover for Gagner's lack of back checking. - Nuck4U
No matter how we slice or dice it the kids below the vets gotta push them out. If at least they bump them down its a good sign we r on track. Who or how idc but its gotta happen sooner than later. Doesn't matter if it translates into wins or not. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Key factor for me is players who are given NTC/NMC. JB did a good job not giving any out on the last round of FA signings.
Only six players on the roster now with movement clauses in their contracts.
Sedin (x2)
Eriksson
Sutter
Edler
Tanev
I hope JB keeps it that way. - bloatedmosquito
A very good observation bro 👍 |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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this group of forwards is going to be extremely versatile. a lot of guys can play in different spots and different situations and share the minutes pretty well.
i hope to see that from green (though not at the expense of obvious chemistry) - BobBot
That is the beauty behind it all.
Depth & versatility without being bound to long term contracts. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Lets look at the teams that have won recently . I won't count Bos because they are not multi winners. In the last 9 years (current) Chi has had Kane and Toews play right after their draft year. Malkin and Crosby played after their draft year and Kopitar and Doughty played the year following their draft. We don't have those type of impact players.
We are picking up decent players but not standouts.
For the record Bos had Lucic and Bergeron who played right after being drafted.
All of those teams went out and made huge trades and ufa signings - VANTEL
Toews played a year in the NCAA after he was drafted and Malkin played two years in Russia after he was drafted. Kopitar played a year in Sweden after he was drafted and Lucic played one more year in the WHL after he was drafted. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Just my personal opinion, but, pushing for the playoffs is a ridiculous notion, the team BADLY needs a number one dman and or another young center. Most likely a moot point anyways because I think it's still a poop team over an 82 game schedule. - LeftCoaster
Yes i agree & 82 games is a long haul & in goal is where the biggest ? Mark is.
It will prolly keep us down & we get another top pick next draft. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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But like you have said in the past they are not locks. You are bang on with your comments that a good draft year is one or maybe two players becoming NHL caliber so thinking Gadjovich Lind Lockwood Demko all have successful NHL careers is a reach.
Again I am not sure if any of them are top impact players. Nice players but we need to wait and see. - VANTEL
That's why it takes awhile to draft a core. |
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