So ? A lucky goal bounces off ones ass or bound off a stanchion.
- belcherbd

it was a nice shot and he showed his speed so he deserves some credit. My point is that it probably wouldn't have happened in a regular season game. Either way, one nice play doesn't make up for all of his defensive mistakes in the game

So ? A lucky goal bounces off ones ass or bound off a stanchion.
- belcherbd

also, how dare you critisize Guance's only goal

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.

I like Kesler as a hockey player, but what can you do if a guy doesn't want to play for your team? Look at Duchene/ Avs right now, I would bet a lot of money that Avs will have sell short on him this season.

To be honest ( I know its too soon to tell), I hate the Hansen trade, Goldobin hasn't impressed me at all so far and I love me some Jannick Hansen
- Crazybagoham

Ya Hansen is another that I'm a fan of. I had high hopes for Goldobin but so far he has been disappointing.

it was a nice shot and he showed his speed so he deserves some credit. My point is that it probably wouldn't have happened in a regular season game. Either way, one nice play doesn't make up for all of his defensive mistakes in the game
- CanuckDon

No argument there.

also, how dare you critisize Guance's only goal
- CanuckDon

Flagged.

From yesterday's game it is pretty easy to see why Subban is an enigma. Flashes of dynamic offense combined with bad turnovers and poor defensive positioning. At 22 I was expecting a bit more consistency in his own end, especially in what was essentially a prospect game. At this point all I expect from Subban is a limited journeyman career as a fringe NHL player for teams desperate for more back-end production.

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. I trust JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

At least you have your Flyers

I was at the game with my boy (his first game ever) and I thought Holm started strong, look composed but buckled as the game wore on.

I've been hard on Subban and his defensive game was mediocre at best, but damn, his skillset is unmatched on this team - you can't teach his skills.

After seeing the game, I'd love for the Canucks to give him some minutes this season. If he could ever make progress on his defensive side of the game, he'd be a steal...

Boeser is in a league of his own, the kid better start in Vancouver. He's got 30 goals written all over him this season....
- chompsey

I don't believe anyones questions Subban's offense its just that u cannot hide his very poor defence. Then others think hiding him on a wing is the answer for 1 player that goes against all logic to make him NHLer.

I don't believe anyones questions Subban's offense its just that u cannot hide his very poor defence. Then others think hiding him on a wing is the answer for 1 player that goes against all logic to make him NHLer.
- Nighthawk

Wishful thinking to put it nicely.

I doubt Subban ever will be a good defender. I think the bigger question is can he become good enough offensively for a coach to ignore his deficiencies. All the defenders looked bad last game, and I'm sure all would look better in a more structured game but Subban at least has something to offer that the rest don't.
- belcherbd

We need what we have never had a true #1 stud D to cover for him.
To hope for that much is irrational to suit only 1 player's glaring deficiency.

Who said I wasn't? I don't see him as a Dman but I can see him as a third line winger and a point man on the PP

I don't think Canucks like him though

I also thnk he would be very good on the shoot out . He would be better than Boucher or Rodin
- VANTEL

If we were a much better & deeper talented team then Subban could be a luxury as a specialist. We r far from that & the timing for him is better served elsewhere. That said idk what his worth would be &/or if we r better to keep him & help Utica rise up the ladder instead.

If we were a much better & deeper talented team then Subban could be a luxury as a specialist. We r far from that & the timing for him is better served elsewhere. That said idk what his worth would be &/or if we r better to keep him & help Utica rise up the ladder instead.
- Nighthawk

Too much print devoted to a guy that is a question mark. I would rather focus on Boeser Bo JV Burmistrov and of course Gaunce

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

Easy, you look at his advanced stats and how much the other team possesses the puck when he's on the ice.

I like Kesler as a hockey player, but what can you do if a guy doesn't want to play for your team? Look at Duchene/ Avs right now, I would bet a lot of money that Avs will have sell short on him this season.

To be honest ( I know its too soon to tell), I hate the Hansen trade, Goldobin hasn't impressed me at all so far and I love me some Jannick Hansen
- Crazybagoham

At the time Goldy/4th looked good & appeared to help restock the farm.
To date he looks lost out there & disappears often. His skills say top 6 possibility only & all other attributes say no to a bottom 6. I to like Hansen more. Goldy is at best an injury call up for a Sven persay til we have true top 6 talented wingers. If our prospects develop & we keep drafting well we r 2-4yrs away from turning the corner. Goldy would be gone by then IMO unless he makes some huge strides. Maybe he should look at JV & what he has to do to get more notice & up his value. At least JV is getting it & needs to stay the course but idk what goes on in Goldys head or if Larionov can or is passing on his savvy. Russians r an enigma for a reason. Some r motivated to be stars in the NHL & the majority can be floaters on the international size ice surfaces for their country. It explains to continuing drop of Russians in drafts other than those who come over as jr's. Eg Provorov Sergachyev Svechnikov.

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

Adding to that Kesler had a gun to JB's head wanting to run off to a contender instead of being here to help. So far no cups & on the shelf to boot.

Wishful thinking to put it nicely.
- RonPielep

Lol maybe but not my wishful thinking now or ever.

Easy, you look at his advanced stats and how much the other team possesses the puck when he's on the ice.
- neem55

How many end up it in the net?
Its not on Dorsett playing with 0 offence linemates.

Keep away doesn't win games

How many end up it in the net?
Its not on Dorsett playing with 0 offence linemates.

Keep away doesn't win games
- Nighthawk

Well, were just going to have to disagree on that. Also, he disproportionately turns the puck over and when you adjust for who his linemates are, he brings them down (IE makes their CF worse). He is a burning garbage pile when it comes to stats. I do give him props for having heart, but there is a reason why fights are decreasing every year. You just cant afford to have these types of liabilities in the lineup.

Well, were just going to have to disagree on that. Also, he disproportionately turns the puck over and when you adjust for who his linemates are, he brings them down (IE makes their CF worse). He is a burning garbage pile when it comes to stats. I do give him props for having heart, but there is a reason why fights are decreasing every year. You just cant afford to have these types of liabilities in the lineup.
- neem55

JB has added to what DD does when we sorely lack his toughness.
TG says 4 lines should be able to play not just 4th line minute fillers.
Burmy & other UFA's r better than AHLers on the 4th.

A liability is a useless 4C. Makes a line utterly a waste of time.

I can now honestly admit the Canucks won the Kesler trade as much as i ripped it when it happened.

1) Sutter is a solid shutdown 3LC with some grit and leadership. Younger 20 goal center is barely a downgrade from a douchebag old 25 goal scorer. Bonino sucked ass here, guy can't skate and this team is already too slow.

2) Gubdranson a solid #4 shutdown dman with grit and leadership as well. McCann is likely a bust, smart of JB to move him before it was too late. The one thing I do trust is JB's prospect evaluation, if he was willing to move McCann then something was wrong here.

3) Dorsett is the only guy with balls on the team to fight and hit, how can you not love him?

4) Forsling is overrated on here, I swear some prospects get more love here once they get traded away. He'll be a bottom pairing offensive dman at best, I'd rather have Hutton and Stetcher. Of course he'll look decent on the Hawks playing with Kane and Toews and people are gonna freak out when he puts up a few points. Typical.

5) Sbisa was a decent stopgap here, and he helped us get a better draft pick. Isn't that exactly what team tank wanted? How can you hate Benning for doing what you wanted? Pick a damn side.
- Nucker101

Something to ponder...


While we draft & develop for future top 6 F's & top 4 D why not focus on the 3/4th lines & as we r currently doing?

Burmy is a good upgrade on the 4th.
Gagner & Vanek for depth offence &/or 3rd liners.
JV is making a strong case as a mid 6 winger.

BB is making a strong case for a legit top 6 F.
LE can easily reinvent himself.
Bo has more to give.
Idk if Sven can do better but he will get pushed soon enough.
We only need wait it out unless a Goldy can make the leap.
Doesn't look like yet though. Dahlen is next up.
Lind looks like a real good pick & can be a mid 6 F if he continues his progress.
Gadjovich looks like he a future.

Just signed up for the athletic, pretty good article on Gaudette there, I won't copy it out but definitely worth the read if you guys are Looking for more content.

One of the interesting bits was that Gaudette's coach is good buddies with Judd Brackett and is in touch constantly with the Canucks.
He also said the Canucks plan is for Gaudette to be at uni for 3 years.