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Scott1977
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Location: Yorkville, IL
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Sep 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
Saad towes panik

Sharp AA kane

Hartman smaltz wiggles

bouma micthell jurco/hayden/ tooto

Kieth Murphy

Kempney Seabrook

Stuart Franson/Rutta

Crawford - Forsberg

Barring any trades or major injuries this most likely the starting lineup for Oct 5.

Hino kero daupin forsling would be first call ups from now to the start of the regular season things can change bouma and wiggles were not signed to play in the ahl they were signed to play in opening day roster so really the open spots are 4th line center and 5 6 7 d man. If the hawks do try and trade for duchence ADB and forsling will be probably be part of that package along with other assets. And since the new hot line of ADB smaltz and kane that everyone is raving about who wins the board battles who does the dirty work who goes to the net and creates a screen all 3 are very skilled and talented players but are perminter players need a roadgrater or a center with size AA to offset that. Go hawks

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 20 @ 5:28 PM ET
Saad Toews Panik
Cat Schmaltz Kane
Sharp Anisimov Hartman
Wingles Dauphin/Kampf Hayden

Keith-Murphy
Seabs-Kempny
Franson-Rutta

Crawford
Forsberg

- SoftServe



matt_ahrens
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Sep 20 @ 5:34 PM ET
Has Q said anything negative about anyone so far this preseason? It really seems like Glass-Half-Full-Q all the time, which is fine. I like the optimism. It gets fans excited and it puts on a happy face for potential trade partners. I don't put much stock in what he's saying yet though until he says someone played "just ok."

I get the feeling there could be a trade made before the season starts. Maybe with Vegas for an L Dman. Getting Duchene would be amazing.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Sep 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
This may have come up already about the ahem "new" rules or is old rules that will now be enforced...

One is the crackdown on faceoff violations: don't recall one of these last years but 2 last night

slashing and int: 7 of those last night

I did not see the game so I don't know what these so called new enforcement looks like

but do we really expect the refs the to be consistent with this...AAAHHH NO..

yets its only preseason but it is NHL reffing...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
The Montreal Canadiens, the Ottawa Senators, the Calgary Flames, the Vancouver Canucks, the Los Angeles Kings, the Nashville Predators and the Columbus Blue Jackets are who the article listed, while mentioning the Isles offer for Hamonic last year. I assume they ar the 8th.
- JRoenick97


How many top six centres would the Flames is Monahan one, or are Duchene, Bennett and Lazar long term wings?

again like other teams the flames first goal is making the playoffs and right now they have a solid six...do really think they sacrifice the young Hamilton or the older Brodie to add another forward named Duchene?

It again comes down to my premise that teams must decide is Duchene a true impact difference maker who you trade better NHL defenders for?
And then you pray Duchene STAYS and at a reasonable number or worry he bolts to the Tavares - less Isles as a UFA...?

To me, Vegas has the most help right now and future and could re-sign Duchene with an overpay...but again, it is a matter of does Vegas send Shea Theodore away when their is a ton of potential for Duchene who we see on a hold pattern?
I don't see it

picks yes, coould youngster dee-men no Vegas, Carolina anywhere...
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:06 PM ET
New book out with "Inside the mind of the coach" snippets. In Q's, he reveals that Toews got seriously injured in 2010 SCF game 6:

http://www.csnchicago.com...-winning-2010-stanley-cup
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Sep 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
Saad towes panik

Sharp AA kane

Hartman smaltz wiggles

bouma micthell jurco/hayden/ tooto

Kieth Murphy

Kempney Seabrook

Stuart Franson/Rutta

Crawford - Forsberg

Barring any trades or major injuries this most likely the starting lineup for Oct 5.

Hino kero daupin forsling would be first call ups from now to the start of the regular season things can change bouma and wiggles were not signed to play in the ahl they were signed to play in opening day roster so really the open spots are 4th line center and 5 6 7 d man. If the hawks do try and trade for duchence ADB and forsling will be probably be part of that package along with other assets. And since the new hot line of ADB smaltz and kane that everyone is raving about who wins the board battles who does the dirty work who goes to the net and creates a screen all 3 are very skilled and talented players but are perminter players need a roadgrater or a center with size AA to offset that. Go hawks

- Scott1977


Saad Toews Panik
Sharp/DCat AA Kane
Vinny Schmaltz Hartman
Hayden Kero Wingels

Kieth Murphy
Seabrook Frosling
Kempny Franson Rutta

Don't see the HAWKS being interested in Duchene at all at this point . Speed kills and a Kane Schmaltz Dibrincat would have that in Spades ..
Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Sep 20 @ 8:19 PM ET
Saad towes panik

Sharp AA kane

Hartman smaltz wiggles

bouma micthell jurco/hayden/ tooto

Kieth Murphy

Kempney Seabrook

Stuart Franson/Rutta

Crawford - Forsberg

Barring any trades or major injuries this most likely the starting lineup for Oct 5.

Hino kero daupin forsling would be first call ups from now to the start of the regular season things can change bouma and wiggles were not signed to play in the ahl they were signed to play in opening day roster so really the open spots are 4th line center and 5 6 7 d man. If the hawks do try and trade for duchence ADB and forsling will be probably be part of that package along with other assets. And since the new hot line of ADB smaltz and kane that everyone is raving about who wins the board battles who does the dirty work who goes to the net and creates a screen all 3 are very skilled and talented players but are perminter players need a roadgrater or a center with size AA to offset that. Go hawks

- Scott1977




Why is everyone already writing off fortin and the rest of the guy in camp?????
Iacopelli/Louis/Gus/oesterle/snuggerud

EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Sep 20 @ 8:23 PM ET
Saad Toews Panik
Sharp/DCat AA Kane
Vinny Schmaltz Hartman
Hayden Kero Wingels

Kieth Murphy
Seabrook Frosling
Kempny Franson Rutta

Don't see the HAWKS being interested in Duchene at all at this point . Speed kills and a Kane Schmaltz Dibrincat would have that in Spades ..

- oldduffman



Forsling looked worse than Kempny, Franson and Ruuta last night. He has a lot of work ahead of him to make the opening night roster, IMO.
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Sep 20 @ 8:32 PM ET
How would the Hawks like to own Bergivin's top 5 in Montreal- Ouch

Tomas Plekanec C
6,000,000

Jonathan Drouin LW
5,500,000

Alex Galchenyuk LW
4,900,000

Max Pacioretty LW
4,500,000

Andrew Shaw C
3,900,000

Brendan Gallagher RW
3,750,000
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Sep 20 @ 8:32 PM ET
Not writing fortin and the others but having year in rockford for a year for development is very good idea more seasoning will help with transition from the ahl to the nhl. On another note ADB smaltz kane line yes i agree lots of skill talent and speed who is playing defense on that line and forechecking ?
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Sep 20 @ 8:38 PM ET
Forsling looked worse than Kempny, Franson and Ruuta last night. He has a lot of work ahead of him to make the opening night roster, IMO.
- EnzoD
Yes everyone has one ,I did not get a chance to see the game .So my line-up may be a little uneducated ,but I do believe Forsling will be given a long look . He as all the tools to be a very good D MAN . Also I don't but a lot of stock in one exhibition game ..
jhawk59
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Sep 20 @ 9:04 PM ET
It makes a whole lot more sense for ADB to get used to being a player teams target a big check at the AHL pace than the NHL.

In the NHL there has to be someone who will play aggressive and check with hits on the line. Put him with Kane and Schmautz only maybe on pp or a shift here and there to get team going (if we are down).

No sense putting three non physical players on same line.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Sep 20 @ 9:36 PM ET
I'm very excited to see Murphy in game action. Based on what we know so far, who is your Opening Night Defense group?
- EnzoD

Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, Rutta, Kempny, Franson and Gustafsson as the #7 Dman if he isn't traded.

L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Sep 20 @ 9:42 PM ET
Saad towes panik

Sharp AA kane

Hartman smaltz wiggles

bouma micthell jurco/hayden/ tooto

Kieth Murphy

Kempney Seabrook

Stuart Franson/Rutta

Crawford - Forsberg

Barring any trades or major injuries this most likely the starting lineup for Oct 5.

Hino kero daupin forsling would be first call ups from now to the start of the regular season things can change bouma and wiggles were not signed to play in the ahl they were signed to play in opening day roster so really the open spots are 4th line center and 5 6 7 d man. If the hawks do try and trade for duchence ADB and forsling will be probably be part of that package along with other assets. And since the new hot line of ADB smaltz and kane that everyone is raving about who wins the board battles who does the dirty work who goes to the net and creates a screen all 3 are very skilled and talented players but are perminter players need a roadgrater or a center with size AA to offset that. Go hawks

- Scott1977

Neither Stuart nor Mitchell are't likely to get a contract. They are not good and most PTOs do not turn into contracts. How many were there across the league last year that played a decent bit with a NHL team? Like 4? I believe when Franson signs, he will be the first player on a PTO with the Hawks to then be signed in about 6 years. PTOs are usually there so that teams can have the max number of vets playing during pre-season games as required by the CBA (like for instance, last nights roster needed them or the Hawks would have needed to send actual Hawks vets like Toews or Keith).

And Kero is not waivers exempt, so they're probably not going to risk sending him to Rockford when a team may want to snag a young, cost controlled center. Hayden may deserve a spot, but as someone who can pass through waivers, he may go to Rockford just so they can see what their non-exempt guys look like in real games. When people keep saying Bouma and Wingels weren't signed to play in the AHL, they're right - at least to start. Either way, people need to keep waiver status in mind when making rosters.
Scott1977
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Sep 20 @ 10:01 PM ET
Valid point about the waiver exempt did not take into account but i don t see the love for kero not good at the dot around 45% so if he is the replacement for kruger needs to get better at a lot of things to me he is depth forward at best fill in here and there time will tell if he turns into anything not holding my breath hope i m proven wrong. I also agree if bouma and wiggles don t cut then play a kid that is better.
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 20 @ 10:32 PM ET
Valid point about the waiver exempt did not take into account but i don t see the love for kero not good at the dot around 45% so if he is the replacement for kruger needs to get better at a lot of things to me he is depth forward at best fill in here and there time will tell if he turns into anything not holding my breath hope i m proven wrong. I also agree if bouma and wiggles don t cut then play a kid that is better.
- Scott1977

Krüger was around 45% early in his career too (45.88 & 46.25 his first two full seasons), and in fact he's only been over 50% in a season twice in 5+ seasons, including 49.11 last season. He's barely over 50% (50.4) for his career.

Krüger did a lot of little things really well, and he might be sorely missed for some of those things, but this common refrain that he was some sort of face-off savant just isn't supported by the numbers.

Jury's still out on what Kero will be at the NHL level, but it's not unreasonable to think he could improve his f/o skills enough that we won't miss Krüger for his above average prowess at the dot.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Sep 20 @ 10:45 PM ET
Krüger was around 45% early in his career too (45.88 & 46.25 his first two full seasons), and in fact he's only been over 50% in a season twice in 5+ seasons, including 49.11 last season. He's barely over 50% (50.4) for his career.

Krüger did a lot of little things really well, and he might be sorely missed for some of those things, but this common refrain that he was some sort of face-off savant just isn't supported by the numbers.

Jury's still out on what Kero will be at the NHL level, but it's not unreasonable to think he could improve his f/o skills enough that we won't miss Krüger for his above average prowess at the dot.

- Ogilthorpe2




Very possible
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Sep 20 @ 10:48 PM ET
Just trying to clarify waivers, someone correct me if I'm wrong (like nobody would). Kero, Hartman, Jurco would have to clear waivers if they don't make the team because they were up at the end of last season. Whereas Polka, Baun, Glass, Svedberg and Oesterle wouldn't if they don't make the team because they were in the AHL at end of last season.
EnzoD
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Joined: 02.19.2014

Sep 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, Rutta, Kempny, Franson and Gustafsson as the #7 Dman if he isn't traded.
- RickJ


Can Rutta play LD??
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:09 PM ET
Krüger was around 45% early in his career too (45.88 & 46.25 his first two full seasons), and in fact he's only been over 50% in a season twice in 5+ seasons, including 49.11 last season. He's barely over 50% (50.4) for his career.

Krüger did a lot of little things really well, and he might be sorely missed for some of those things, but this common refrain that he was some sort of face-off savant just isn't supported by the numbers.

Jury's still out on what Kero will be at the NHL level, but it's not unreasonable to think he could improve his f/o skills enough that we won't miss Krüger for his above average prowess at the dot.

- Ogilthorpe2


New for 2017 is an NHL crackdown on faceoff violations and cheating, so maybe historical faceoff % numbers won't mean very much going forward.


(Or the NHL crackdown lasts only a month or so and will be totally forgotten).
matt_ahrens
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.30.2014

Sep 20 @ 11:09 PM ET
How would the Hawks like to own Bergivin's top 5 in Montreal- Ouch

Tomas Plekanec C
6,000,000

Jonathan Drouin LW
5,500,000

Alex Galchenyuk LW
4,900,000

Max Pacioretty LW
4,500,000

Andrew Shaw C
3,900,000

Brendan Gallagher RW
3,750,000

- Colbyboy


Well, the top 4 make less than the Blackhawks' top 2. All six of them make only $675,000 more than the Blackhawks top 3. But, yeah, they could use a star or two skater.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 01.12.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:13 PM ET
Can Rutta play LD??
- EnzoD

Lets cut Franson instead.
SoftServe
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Sep 21 @ 12:41 AM ET

- DarthKane


Perfect mate!
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 01.19.2016

Sep 21 @ 12:43 AM ET
It makes a whole lot more sense for ADB to get used to being a player teams target a big check at the AHL pace than the NHL.

In the NHL there has to be someone who will play aggressive and check with hits on the line. Put him with Kane and Schmautz only maybe on pp or a shift here and there to get team going (if we are down).

No sense putting three non physical players on same line.

- jhawk59


I know Cat is only 5"7 but isn't he pretty scrappy for his size?
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