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- doppelthat

Can we start calling Beaulieu Gustavo now?

Just because you like a rapper doesn't make them better technical wise, besides you let your colors show when you call him a rich whiny white dude. That poop holds zero relevance to the discussion of musical ability.

At the end of the day it all comes down to opinion, I think your opinion sucks along with your attitude.

You're not king poop to go talking down on everybody.
- chilliard77

No one's talking down, but Kendrick Lamar is universally praised critically and popularly, for being a brilliant lyricist and having an amazing flow. It's not an opinion, he's at the top for numerous reasons.

And Eminem is a rich. whiny, white dude, that's straight truth.

Since I've became competent in what's going on, I've always been under the impression it was keeper. I don't know what he said in the beginning
- chilliard77

He said it after the draft.

Ask Homie he was unhappy as well. I assumed he dropped it and then you brought it up the other day, and I was just fed up with him changing the rules to suit himself.

No one's talking down, but Kendrick Lamar is universally praised critically and popularly, for being a brilliant lyricist and having an amazing flow. It's not an opinion, he's at the top for numerous reasons.

And Eminem is a rich. whiny, white dude, that's straight truth.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Again, I don't see how this has any relevance to musical ability or the debate of who's better

He said it after the draft.

Ask Homie he was unhappy as well. I assumed he dropped it and then you brought it up the other day, and I was just fed up with him changing the rules to suit himself.
- Wetbandit1

after the draft he talked about 1 keeper

https://sports.yahoo.com/...th-society-191859032.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/...th-society-191859032.html


- Wetbandit1

Jesus

I mean it's really ironic but not funny that Eminem is called the greatest rapper of all-time right when white people started getting into hip-hop.

The color absolutely has almost everything to do with it. Hip-hop was born from inner-city blacks, it's their music, they rule it and Eminem is an over-rated rapper simply because he's white and white people blow their loads over him.

And you're talking to someone who was a very big Eminem fan at one point. The Slim Shady LP is one of the best rap albums ever, but he's not even pushing the top-10 rappers all-time.

Dude seriously. Tupac, Notorious B.I.G., Kendrick, Jay-Z (and I HATE Jay-Z), OutKast, N.W.A., Wu-Tang Clan, Run DMC, Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Mos Def, FFS Nicki Minaj are all better than Eminem and it's not even subjective.

Yeah, throw him in at the end there and he was ground-breaking for what he did and how he went mainstream but let's be real here, he's so over-rated it's hardly believable. Just like the Beastie Boys, because they're white, they get extra praise in a black genre.

Don't think for one second color doesn't play a role in hip-hop. It's black music made by blacks that everyone can enjoy and some other people are good enough to be a part of but it's black-culture tried and true no matter what.

Jesus
- chilliard77

These guys fly on planes as part of their jobs, they see the Earth is round. I really don't get it.

I mean it's really ironic but not funny that Eminem is called the greatest rapper of all-time right when white people started getting into hip-hop.

The color absolutely has almost everything to do with it. Hip-hop was born from inner-city blacks, it's their music, they rule it and Eminem is an over-rated rapper simply because he's white and white people blow their loads over him.

And you're talking to someone who was a very big Eminem fan at one point. The Slim Shady LP is one of the best rap albums ever, but he's not even pushing the top-10 rappers all-time.

Dude seriously. Tupac, Notorious B.I.G., Kendrick, Jay-Z (and I HATE Jay-Z), OutKast, N.W.A., Wu-Tang Clan, Run DMC, Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Mos Def, FFS Nicki Minaj are all better than Eminem and it's not even subjective.

Yeah, throw him in at the end there and he was ground-breaking for what he did and how he went mainstream but let's be real here, he's so over-rated it's hardly believable. Just like the Beastie Boys, because they're white, they get extra praise in a black genre.

Don't think for one second color doesn't play a role in hip-hop. It's black music made by blacks that everyone can enjoy and some other people are good enough to be a part of but it's black-culture tried and true no matter what.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Music has no color

Okay. What the (frank) is going on in this music video

Music has no color
- chilliard77

Yes it does.

Jimmy Hendrix was black. He's regarded as a black man and the greatest guitar player ever.

Jazz is black music.

Hip-hop is black music.

Stop taking it away from them. Music absolutely has color, because different cultures make different music.

Western music is predominantly white, and harmonic.

Eastern music is predominantly Asiatic and dissonant.

African music is predominantly black and rhythmic.

There are in-betweens and cross-overs but music absolutely has different roots in different ethnicities, therefor, it has an origin in different colors.

Not to mention music theory supposes that tones have actual color values and certain ethnicities are prone to using certain tones, and would also represent music in the form of color.

Music is an expression, humans are the vessel through which it travels. It comes from somewhere else and we're lucky to have it but don't take away people's ethnic roots because you got self-righteous over it.

https://sports.yahoo.com/...th-society-191859032.html


- Wetbandit1

It should surprise me, but it just doesn't ...

Yes it does.

Jimmy Hendrix was black. He's regarded as a black man and the greatest guitar player ever.

Jazz is black music.

Hip-hop is black music.

Stop taking it away from them. Music absolutely has color, because different cultures make different music.

Western music is predominantly white, and harmonic.

Eastern music is predominantly Asiatic and dissonant.

African music is predominantly black and rhythmic.

There are in-betweens and cross-overs but music absolutely has different roots in different ethnicities, therefor, it has an origin in different colors.

Not to mention music theory supposes that tones have actual color values and certain ethnicities are prone to using certain tones, and would also represent music in the form of color.

Music is an expression, humans are the vessel through which it travels. It comes from somewhere else and we're lucky to have it but don't take away people's ethnic roots because you got self-righteous over it.
- BeadyEyedDouche

But at the end of the day, I'm not going to give anybody less credit because of their color

https://sports.yahoo.com/...th-society-191859032.html


- Wetbandit1

I was doing my fanduel lineups with gr in background and heard them talk about it

But at the end of the day, I'm not going to give anybody less credit because of their color
- chilliard77

we have the same level of differences with various clowns

But at the end of the day, I'm not going to give anybody less credit because of their color
- chilliard77

You got me on that one, but when their skin color compromises people's critical perceptions of the music, you have to call a spade a spade and an Eminem a Sixlet. Kekekekeke.

I think Eminem being white absolutely causes people to over-rate him within his genre, which is born from African-Americans and dominated by them.

Oppositely, just like how Bobby Caldwell is called "Blue-Eyed Soul" or "Smooth Jazz" because he's white, he's almost being discredited for making fantastic Soul music; he isn't allowed to just be a soul-musician for some reason. Yet Lou Rawls, he's never called smooth jazz, even though his music borders on it more than Bobby Caldwell, he gets MORE credit because he's black within the genre.

I mean, especially with the start of the 20th century, race played a huge part in music and by the middle of the century, blacks were dominating it. So the record companies took handsome, young white males and manufactured music in the image and sound of blacks, because let's face it, black people have natural swag/coolness.

From this we got Elvis, The Beatles, etc.... manufactured pop.

And this is when music became compromised and strictly for-profit and why I discredit the Beatles, not for any other reason than being the first truly manufactured pop band. They were made to sell records to young women and given the keys to the recording studio kingdom.

You give yourself and I unlimited access to a studio, millions of dollars to spend on top of the line equipment and a producer like Nigel Godrich or Dave Fridmann, I guarantee you we would make at least one fantastic recording that would be an anthem for generations to come. It would be hard NOT to with resources and time like some bands have gotten.

Modern music has a color. It's green, specifically.

You got me on that one, but when their skin color compromises people's critical perceptions of the music, you have to call a spade a spade an an Eminem a Sixlet. Kekekekeke.

I think Eminem being white absolutely causes people to over-rate him within his genre, which is born from African-Americans and dominated by them.

Oppositely, just like how Bobby Caldwell is called "Blue-Eyed Soul" or "Smooth Jazz" because he's white, he's almost being discredited for making fantastic Soul music; he isn't allowed to just be a soul-musician for some reason. Yet Lou Rawls, he's never called smooth jazz, even though his music borders on it more than Bobby Caldwell, he gets MORE credit because he's black within the genre.

I mean, especially with the start of the 20th century, race played a huge part in music and by the middle of the century, it was dominating it. So the record companies took handsome, young white males and manufactured music in the image and sound of blacks, because let's face it, black people have natural swag/coolness.

From this we got Elvis, The Beatles, etc.... manufactured pop.

And this is when music became compromised and strictly for-profit and why I discredit the Beatles, not for any other reason than being the first truly manufactured pop band. They were made to sell records to young women and given the keys to the recording studio kingdom.

You give yourself and I unlimited access to a studio, millions of dollars to spend on top of the line equipment and a producer like Nigel Godrich or Dave Fridmann, I guarantee you we would make at least one fantastic recording that would be an anthem for generations to come. It would be hard NOT to with resources and time like some bands have gotten.

Modern music has a color. It's green, specifically.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I honestly don't have an opinion on greatest rapper of all time. It's a very broad spectrum and I don't know enough about rap to make that opinion. I just rate Eminem over Kendrick Lamar, which I feel he has on track record alone

I honestly don't have an opinion on greatest rapper of all time. It's a very broad spectrum and I don't know enough about rap to make that opinion. I just rate Eminem over Kendrick Lamar, which I feel he has on track record alone
- chilliard77

Eminem may have made a larger impact on the genre, but it's absolutely because he's white. That's why he changed the game for a minute. don't get me wrong, hes important to music and the genre, but it makes people jaded in their opinions of him.

It's so easy for white people to like a white rapper, and he in turn, exposes white people to a genre they normally wouldn't have sought out. He's very important to the history of Hip-Hop, don't misunderstand me.

But Kendrick's output and the quality and content of his lyrics, let alone the fantastic production values on his tracks, he's been absolutely slaying it for going on 6/7 years now and he's untouchable at the moment. He's on the top and at this point, he can be mentioned in the same breath as Tupac, something Eminem will NEVER have.

You don't have to like Kendrick, and it's possible he isn't as ground-breaking as Eminem. But he's so much better as a 'rapper' it's sacrilege to mention Eminem in the same breath as him. Cartoons and Cereal alone is better than all of Eminem's music combined.

True story: I joined a fantasy football league in oh, idk, about 2001/2002?

Anyway, my mother got breast cancer and I stopped following it very soon into the season, then told them before the halfway point, that I couldn't do it and they can have my team to give to someone else or delete me and draft my players...

And the dude who started the league accused me of making it up, told me to kill myself and hated me for all eternity after that.

The point is, people take this fantasy sports stuff way too seriously.

I like you for the most part but like some others have said, that's what you get for joining a league Gerbe made, no offense to him, either.

But you sound like a child right now, TBH.
- BeadyEyedDouche

If there was no fantasy football, no one would give a fvck about the NFL. People care more about their fantasy team/s than they do about the team they "actually" root for. Sorry to say it but that's a fact. I have watched maybe a full game of live Bills or NFL action in the last 19 years. I can tell you what though over the last 3 years, I'm 120 games over .500 with the spread. I'm consistently in the money in my pickem leagues. It's all about the cash for people when dealing with the NFL.

Why do you think it's going to Vegas(NHL included)? The league is 10 yrs away from a "Rollerball" scenario.

Yes it does.

Jimmy Hendrix was black. He's regarded as a black man and the greatest guitar player ever.

Jazz is black music.

Hip-hop is black music.

Stop taking it away from them. Music absolutely has color, because different cultures make different music.

Western music is predominantly white, and harmonic.

Eastern music is predominantly Asiatic and dissonant.

African music is predominantly black and rhythmic.

There are in-betweens and cross-overs but music absolutely has different roots in different ethnicities, therefor, it has an origin in different colors.

Not to mention music theory supposes that tones have actual color values and certain ethnicities are prone to using certain tones, and would also represent music in the form of color.

Music is an expression, humans are the vessel through which it travels. It comes from somewhere else and we're lucky to have it but don't take away people's ethnic roots because you got self-righteous over it.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Only to ignorant people it does.

Music has no color.

Blues is as African American as it gets, tell me Clapton and Stevie aren't the blues through and through..... Tell me Led Zepplin and The Stones are influenced by the Blues. Tell me Floyd and the Beatles weren't influenced? Jerry Lee Lewis either, fvck how about Elvis or Cash? What about Dylan? Sh!t if not for the Dead there's a whole list of songs from the 1800's we'd not be privy'd to for fvcks sake. All are blues based (slave music).

Music has color to racist a$$holes who are more the n word than any color is because of their ignorance.

Music having a color is like saying Religion has a color(and I'm far from a religious person). Neither has a color. Both are spiritual and should be embraced.

Music having color is about as racist as saying only black people eat fried chicken.

Neither are close to being true.

People sure seem to have very short memories when it comes to rap.

I'll take Rakim at his peak and Genius/Gza or the entirety of the Wu-Tang Clan over any of the stuff of the modern more recent stuff.

People sure seem to have very short memories when it comes to rap.

I'll take Rakim at his peak and Genius/Gza or the entirety of the Wu-Tang Clan over any of the stuff of the modern more recent stuff.
- kingcong39

Rap was groung breaking as it opened the minds (for those that wanted to listen) to the struggles of the intercity people.

There isn't much out their in all genres that's ground breaking anymore. The fresh sound is dead.

I have 20 terabytes of music spanning from classical to today and the last 15-20ish years is rubbish IMO. Nothing really eye popping or mind expanding. Can't remember the last time I heard anything original. Heard many artist play in a way to bring me back to the 60's music and how I feel it would've felt to hear that era for the 1st time (Sheep Dogs, The Deep Dark Woods, Dr Dog, Delta Spirit, Buffalo Killers, ect). Again it's been 15-20 years since we've heard ground breaking music IMO.

Rap was groung breaking as it opened the minds (for those that wanted to listen) to the struggles of the intercity people.

There isn't much out their in all genres that's ground breaking anymore. The fresh sound is dead.

I have 20 terabytes of music spanning from classical to today and the last 15-20ish years is rubbish IMO. Nothing really eye popping or mind expanding. Can't remember the last time I heard anything original. Heard many artist play in a way to bring me back to the 60's music and how I feel it would've felt to hear that era for the 1st time (Sheep Dogs, The Deep Dark Woods, Dr Dog, Delta Spirit, Buffalo Killers, ect). Again it's been 15-20 years since we've heard ground breaking music IMO.
- dadeadhead

Totally agree, as even moderately decent rappers back in the day would tell full stories in their songs. That's a long lost art.