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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
Add White too
- Nighthawk

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:41 PM ET
Archie Goldy Chatty Subby MacEwey and Cull
- VANTEL


Not your boy chat 😳
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
Virtanen is the only real candidate as far as I can see unless green decide he wants to bring in Upshall and White.
- belcherbd


JV will probably be on that bubble regardless of PTO crew. White is out on concussion. UP has to show something tonight if he's in the line up.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
Virtanen is the only real candidate as far as I can see unless green decide he wants to bring in Upshall and White.
- belcherbd


Your probably right ...have to imagine JV sticks to start the year if he plays good this preseason
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
They need to change the rule so guys like OJ can play in the ahl ...he'll do good in Europe but not the same
- Redmile247


I disagree. I think OJ can still prove lots in the OHL, it's debatable that he was London's best defenseman last year let alone one of the best in the league. Until a prospect is doing that, they can continue to develop in Junior IMO.

There are lots of examples of talented high picks going back to junior and being just fine.

Nurse is a pretty good example of that. Josh Morrissey as well.

The AHL is a tough league and I don't think teenagers are physically or mentally ready for it in most cases.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 22 @ 6:44 PM ET
Not your boy chat 😳
- Redmile247


He has looked good to date.
An embarrassment of riches we now have😂

Now we only need the top 7 to get their poop together. Thats a dream btw so give me that much pls lol
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Sep 22 @ 6:45 PM ET
I think Boucher goes on waivers and Upshall gets cut
- VANTEL

boucher def waivers. Upshall doesnt seem to have earned anything at all, but then why is he on china trip? There just might be a plan for him even though I think there shouldnt be
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
Not your boy chat 😳
- Redmile247


Chat will be called up after we trade EG for a first

Treliving also called Benning about Sven but you guys don't have a first so it was nixed
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
I think Boucher goes on waivers and Upshall gets cut
- VANTEL


I don't want Upshall brought in but would be surprised if it happens, especially if the team is concerned about Dorsett.

I think there are plenty of grinder 4th line guys available via trade or waivers this time of the year to worry about it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
I disagree. I think OJ can still prove lots in the OHL, it's debatable that he was London's best defenseman last year let alone one of the best in the league. Until a prospect is doing that, they can continue to develop in Junior IMO.

There are lots of examples of talented high picks going back to junior and being just fine.

Nurse is a pretty good example of that. Josh Morrissey as well.

The AHL is a tough league and I don't think teenagers are physically or mentally ready for it in most cases.

- belcherbd



In the end its OJ is a 19yr old & we all know D take a lot more time to develop. We cannot have high hopes & expectations too soon but let him develop on a realistic timeline. Yes i don't see his going back to London as a hinderance to his development.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:48 PM ET
Another small round of cuts just announced:

Carter Bancks Left Wing
Wacey Hamilton Forward
Jaime Sifers Defence

According to this article, Utica training camp starts 'next week,' but an exact date hasn't been announced. Their first preseason game is next Saturday, Sept 30.

http://www.uticaod.com/sp...tica-comets-training-camp
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 22 @ 6:49 PM ET
I think Boucher goes on waivers and Upshall gets cut
- VANTEL


Does that mean you have Rodin in the NHL ? He hasn't shown enough for me yet but is really the only guy of the bubble players I'm interested in seeing more of.

Goldobin doesn't look nearly as promising as I had hoped and I've never been impressed by Boucher.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
Does that mean you have Rodin in the NHL ? He hasn't shown enough for me yet but is really the only guy of the bubble players I'm interested in seeing more of.

Goldobin doesn't look nearly as promising as I had hoped and I've never been impressed by Boucher.

- belcherbd


I can see Rodin as a spare
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
boucher def waivers. Upshall doesnt seem to have earned anything at all, but then why is he on china trip? There just might be a plan for him even though I think there shouldnt be
- SMBDragon



Preseason as fodder for full rosters.
Nothing more so when cuts happen & players sent back to Jr's or Utica etc we can use the last few games for serious assessment & form up rosters fir the real season.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
In the end its OJ is a 19yr old & we all know D take a lot more time to develop. We cannot have high hopes & expectations too soon but let him develop on a realistic timeline. Yes i don't see his going back to London as a hinderance to his development.
- Nighthawk


For sure, I don't read anything into his preseason performance so far, Kid needs time. I can understand the debate about juniors vs pro league in europe and likely doesn't matter one way or the other.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 22 @ 6:54 PM ET
Another small round of cuts just announced:

Carter Bancks Left Wing
Wacey Hamilton Forward
Jaime Sifers Defence

According to this article, Utica training camp starts 'next week,' but an exact date hasn't been announced. Their first preseason game is next Saturday, Sept 30.

http://www.uticaod.com/sp...tica-comets-training-camp

- Carol Schram


Thanks Carol.

Have you heard anything about Brett McKenzie? I'm pretty sure he isn't with the preseason crew but assume he will be at the Utica training camp. I don't think he has been signed to an ELC yet so not sure how that works.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 22 @ 6:55 PM ET
Does that mean you have Rodin in the NHL ? He hasn't shown enough for me yet but is really the only guy of the bubble players I'm interested in seeing more of.

Goldobin doesn't look nearly as promising as I had hoped and I've never been impressed by Boucher.

- belcherbd


Rodin has NHL skating & Boucher is a one trick pony aka sniper. One gets a longer look to see how his offence pans out & the other is a casualty.

Goldy can skate & can be waived & can replace anything Boucher can do.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:55 PM ET
I disagree. I think OJ can still prove lots in the OHL, it's debatable that he was London's best defenseman last year let alone one of the best in the league. Until a prospect is doing that, they can continue to develop in Junior IMO.

There are lots of examples of talented high picks going back to junior and being just fine.

Nurse is a pretty good example of that. Josh Morrissey as well.

The AHL is a tough league and I don't think teenagers are physically or mentally ready for it in most cases.

- belcherbd


Good points ...D are so Odd ...they all develop at a different rate than the rest

Kylington was able to go to Stockton as a teen and had a pretty good year as a 20 year old so my bias is that I like being able to send them
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 22 @ 6:56 PM ET
Another small round of cuts just announced:

Carter Bancks Left Wing
Wacey Hamilton Forward
Jaime Sifers Defence

According to this article, Utica training camp starts 'next week,' but an exact date hasn't been announced. Their first preseason game is next Saturday, Sept 30.

http://www.uticaod.com/sp...tica-comets-training-camp

- Carol Schram


Thanks Carol that was expected from them not dressing tonight. What's your take on OJ not in vs Oil?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
Agree pretty much with all u said other than 5.5/7yrs. He has never played that good to deserve that yet but its if possible he can but thats a HUGE IF at present. He is not a top 2 D nor will get paid for it either.
- Nighthawk


In what world do legitimate top 2 defenceman get 5.5 per, that's 2nd pairing money?

Top pair defenceman get 7.5 million plus per year.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:57 PM ET
Chat will be called up after we trade EG for a first

Treliving also called Benning about Sven but you guys don't have a first so it was nixed

- VANTEL


You can keep Sven ....I like Andersson
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 22 @ 6:58 PM ET
For sure, I don't read anything into his preseason performance so far, Kid needs time. I can understand the debate about juniors vs pro league in europe and likely doesn't matter one way or the other.
- belcherbd



Heh even next season if OJ doesn't crack our roster going to Utica is fine. At 20 thats perfectly good for him to go thru the stages towards being a fulltime NHLer
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 22 @ 6:59 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

Have you heard anything about Brett McKenzie? I'm pretty sure he isn't with the preseason crew but assume he will be at the Utica training camp. I don't think he has been signed to an ELC yet so not sure how that works.

- belcherbd


I spotted McKenzie in a pic from practice this morning, so he's still around:

https://twitter.com/Canuc...status/911279897489809409

It looks like you're right, that he hasn't been signed to a contract yet. I imagine they could ink him to an AHL or ECHL deal if they choose, or he could play an overage year back in the OHL?

He got a bit of first-line ice time at one of the Young Stars games. No one seems super excited about him, but I would think they'll try to keep him around.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 22 @ 7:00 PM ET
You can keep Sven ....I like Andersson
- Redmile247


Louie Anderson?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 22 @ 7:00 PM ET
I can see Rodin as a spare
- VANTEL


My money is on him going to Utica
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