I think you've made my argument several times in the past. I think you're probably being a hypocrite now, and I think you probably are self-aware enough to realize that. If you want to move on..I suggest you do that. We both know you won't, because you aren't capable.
- SoCalPucks

My god, man. The conversation has now moved on and YOU'RE keeping it going

Honestly, I think the protests boil down to this: if we all stopped assuming that millionaire athletes cared as much for (or against) the issues that we care about, people would be bothered by this a lot less. This is not even a knock on them. They're millionaires. They take part in situations most of us never will, they interact with people we never will, they will face problems we never will, and vice versa. To assume that they are as close to, and therefore care about, the issues that are mean the most to us is illogical.

I said this last year, and it eventually was the same thing when it came to 9/11 years after the fact. By November of last year, the majority of players (though definitely not all) kneeling for the national anthem were grandstanding. They couldn't even even tell you exactly what they were protesting. Hell, the media couldn't even agree on what exactly it was that Colin Kaepernick was protesting. I believe that Sunday was different, but it wasn't as much of a protest of any one particular issue so much as it was simply the members of the NFL, which has always been somewhat of a tight-knit "good old boys" club, not letting someone, especially someone as high profile as the President of the United States, talk down to them. The players, coaches, owners, management, etc. all take a great deal of pride in "The Shield", and you hear them talk about it all the time. It wasn't so much of a protest of issues as much as it was "I don't agree with what you say but I will fight for your right to say it". In this case, it was a fight for a member of their club, one which common middle class people like us are not, and never will be a part of.

Anyways, how is your sex life?
- BeadyEyedDouche

Do dreams count ?

Do dreams count ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I cannot tell you it's confidential.

I cannot tell you it's confidential.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You just did.

http://buffalosabresnow.blogspot.com/

Wow, Mike. (frank)ing NAILED IT.

Thank god you pointed out the upper-middle class background of hockey AND Colin Kaepernick. He isn't free from that criticism, being a privileged male from an affluent family. He speaks out toward an injustice he has largely been able to avoid because of his economic status. Adopted or not.

THAT is my and has been my biggest gripe with Kaepernick. He doesn't represent the people he says he does and he's been more privileged than 99% of people in the country. Charity work is great, speaking out is great, but you have to hand that torch to a member of the suffering community and fund their voice, not use your spotlight as a pedestal to promote your own brand.
- BeadyEyedDouche

This is so wrong on so many levels.

Also just read Pachla's blog. It wasn't really controversial. What was the problem with it?

I saw someone post on FB the other day that their dead grandfather that was a soldier would be really upset about people kneeling during the anthem.

Now, this person may very well be right. But to assume that he would be is a bit crazy IMO. He's not here to give his opinion, so let's leave him out of it.
- HonkFortheGoose

In my opinion it is much more disrespectful to assume the opinions of vets than it is to knee during the anthem.

The only ones getting worked up about it seem to be non-vets......

......the irony of it all.

When you forget to put Jordan Howard in your line up but still score the most points of the week.

In my opinion it is much more disrespectful to assume the opinions of vets than it is to knee during the anthem.

The only ones getting worked up about it seem to be non-vets......

......the irony of it all.
- Mentalorgasm5

In my opinion it is much more disrespectful to assume the opinions of vets than it is to knee during the anthem.

The only ones getting worked up about it seem to be non-vets......

......the irony of it all.
- Mentalorgasm5

I know vets who are on both sides of the fence.

I just hate that the actual issue that was being protested in the first place is never the topic of discussion

I'm down in San Diego. You're in LA somewhere, yea?
- SoCalPucks

Yeah in West Hollywood I have to pick up my friend in two weeks in San Diego so maybe I can come visit you no Homo

Yeah in West Hollywood I have to pick up my friend in two weeks in San Diego so maybe I can come visit you no Homo
- GERBE!!!75PTS

opinions vary

When you forget to put Jordan Howard in your line up but still score the most points of the week.


- bluengold12

lol my man

opinions vary
- Der Kaiser

You got me there

Guess I spoke too soon.





So anyway, back to hockey...

When's the next preseason game?
- HonkFortheGoose

on the mcCabe thing a few pages back.. i thought i saw he was week to week and his ability to start the season next week was in question

the flag is about this country , one nation


it's not about an athletes right to protest



do your unity crap before the anthem and once the anthem starts respect the flag


it's that simple

no athlete is above the flag

I know vets who are on both sides of the fence.

I just hate that the actual issue that was being protested in the first place is never the topic of discussion
- sbroads24

Agreed. The real issue at hand, is sort of a big one too.

This pretty much sums it up

For those that missed the blog it's still here


https://buffalosabresnow....out-kaepernick-trump.html

Agreed. The real issue at hand, is sort of a big one too.

This pretty much sums it up


- Mentalorgasm5

I'd say this country was good to Kap

Also just read Pachla's blog. It wasn't really controversial. What was the problem with it?
- buffalofan19

the impending shat storm that ended up happening in here anyways.. but it would have been worse in there bringing in trolls from all over the place.. this is not the place for that conversation. and any conversation like that on the interweb tends to turn nasty quickly due to the fact that its not face to face and people get interweb muscles

I'd say this country was good to Kap



- homiedclown

Just because someone is well off, doesn't mean they are not allowed to bring up racial inequalities in the country.

That truly is one of the dumbest arguments I hear people bring up. I would argue its more of their responsibility to bring it to the forefront, simply because they can afford to.

the flag is about this country , one nation


it's not about an athletes right to protest



do your unity crap before the anthem and once the anthem starts respect the flag


it's that simple

no athlete is above the flag
- homiedclown

That flag was built on genocide and slavery.

Can someone take a knee in Puerto Rico? I think they need some attention.

That flag was built on genocide and slavery.
- BeadyEyedDouche

the better arguement might be that the flag was created by people who stood up and fought against those that were oppressing them.. if slavery had something to do about it they would have knelled during both antehms in europe and not just the USA..