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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Here's the roster for tonight's game:

Archibald, Upshall and Dorsett are all in, as is Wiercioch.

No Goldobin, Rodin or Philip Holm.

https://twitter.com/kenwa...status/913449991858880513

- Carol Schram


Thanks Carol! Hard not to cheer for Archibald, brings something we need and seems a much more responsible player than Dorsett (who I'd imiagine he'll replace).
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 28 @ 2:24 PM ET
Thanks Carol! Hard not to cheer for Archibald, brings something we need and seems a much more responsible player than Dorsett (who I'd imiagine he'll replace).
- neem55


I'm not against replacing Dorsett with a similar style player but was wondering why you'd say Archibald is a more responsible player?

(I'd like the cap savings too)

Not sure why Megna and Chaput are still with the club. ffs that doesn't make any sense to me.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
I'm not against replacing Dorsett with a similar style player but was wondering why you'd say Archibald is a more responsible player?

(I'd like the cap savings too)

Not sure why Megna and Chaput are still with the club. ffs that doesn't make any sense to me.

- hillbillydeluxe


Dude... really, until Guance gets back from injury this is their team to lead.
Ffs
Sometimes I question whether you actually watch hockey or just watch the box score and analytics.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Dude... really, until Guance gets back from injury this is their team to lead.
Ffs
Sometimes I question whether you actually watch hockey or just watch the box score and analytics.

- Pres.cup


feck analytics, I just need +/-, it is all black and white.

Gaunce is going to push for a spot on the top line, everyone gets pushed down a slot.

aren't we still seeing Granlund penciled in at centre?

Chaput and Megna are bound for Utica. make it happen already.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
feck analytics, I just need +/-, it is all black and white.

Gaunce is going to push for a spot on the top line, everyone gets pushed down a slot.

aren't we still seeing Granlund penciled in at centre?

Chaput and Megna are bound for Utica. make it happen already.

- hillbillydeluxe


hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 28 @ 2:39 PM ET

- Codes1087


get off my feckin lawn, I'm not talking to you.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
feck analytics, I just need +/-, it is all black and white.

Gaunce is going to push for a spot on the top line, everyone gets pushed down a slot.

aren't we still seeing Granlund penciled in at centre?

Chaput and Megna are bound for Utica. make it happen already.

- hillbillydeluxe


Isn't +/- an analytical tool? Not to be confused with ×/÷ which is just a straight up tool.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'm not against replacing Dorsett with a similar style player but was wondering why you'd say Archibald is a more responsible player?

(I'd like the cap savings too)

Not sure why Megna and Chaput are still with the club. ffs that doesn't make any sense to me.

- hillbillydeluxe


Well because the stats say so and my eye test doesn't see Archibald coughing the puck up quite as much as Dorsett who is a complete liability in terms of possession. I know you don't like stats but
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
Isn't +/- an analytical tool? Not to be confused with ×/÷ which is just a straight up tool.
- Pres.cup


+/- is pretty much the horoscope of hockey. It's about that accurate from a statistical standpoint.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
Isn't +/- an analytical tool? Not to be confused with ×/÷ which is just a straight up tool.
- Pres.cup




don't go saying I support the analytical community or I'm analytical curious, and take sex out of the equation with that straight tool talk.

dammit, you made me flag you.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
Carol Schram: Darren Archibald fights for an NHL job as Vancouver Canucks host Calgary
After cutting seven players from their preseason roster on Wednesday, Darren Archibald becomes the potential disruptor in the Vancouver Canucks' lineup plans as the team prepares to host the Calgary Flames on Thursday night at Rogers Arena.

- Carol Schram

Archie
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 28 @ 2:53 PM ET


don't go saying I support the analytical community or I'm analytical curious, and take sex out of the equation with that straight tool talk.

dammit, you made me flag you.

- hillbillydeluxe


Did someone say "Flag"
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:00 PM ET
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:05 PM ET
Did someone say "Flag"
- Makita


Oh poop, its the cops! Everybody hide!



Run, he's not looking, quick!

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
From Twitter

Rick Dhaliwal‏ 
@DhaliwalSports
Following

More
Hearing #Canucks gm Jim Benning has called Columbus to inquire about Josh Anderson who Elliotte Friedman reports has asked for a trade.

- VanHockeyGuy


meh
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
meh
- Nucker101


young power forward, who had a breakout year, and has handcuffed his GM a little bit, why not inquire?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
+/- is pretty much the horoscope of hockey. It's about that accurate from a statistical standpoint.
- neem55


This rant isn't directed at you. Just screaming into the void.

Too many people simply regurgitate what they have been told about Corsi and +/- without having a clue about statistics. It becomes tiresome seeing sports writers with an inflated sense of self-importance lecture their readers on mathematical concepts that they are not qualified to speak on. Now I'm sure some of them have done a fair amount of research and aren't complete numpties, so I'm not entirely appealing to authority here, but again far too many of them act condescending towards others.

If you can't explain the difference between probability and likelihood, and if you don't know what an unbiased estimator is, or what the bias-variance decomposition is, then you have no business acting condescending while discussing the benefits of Corsi.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
This rant isn't directed at you. Just screaming into the void.

Too many people simply regurgitate what they have been told about Corsi and +/- without having a clue about statistics. It becomes tiresome seeing sports writers with an inflated sense of self-importance lecture their readers on mathematical concepts that they are not qualified to speak on. Now I'm sure some of them have done a fair amount of research and aren't complete numpties, so I'm not entirely appealing to authority here, but again far too many of them act condescending towards others.

If you can't explain the difference between probability and likelihood, and if you don't know what an unbiased estimator is, or what the bias-variance decomposition is, then you have no business acting condescending while discussing the benefits of Corsi.

- RonPielep


Analytics are not and should not be the only measurement tool a team/fan uses to access the importance/production of a player, but having said that, to not use Analytics when there is so much data out there today, would be dumb.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
Gudbranson won't net much with his injury history and upcoming UFA status
- VanHockeyGuy



What is not much in a market shy on D?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
Just read canucks looking at a trade for Anderson, he was a linemate with bo in junior.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
What is not much in a market shy on D?
- Nighthawk


what team is going to pay a premium for a UFA d-man who had a really poor season last season (statistically and injury wise).

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
Archie is someone we need, the guys a hard worker, big body and uses it and good with the young guys, make it happen jimbo.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
Analytics are not and should not be the only measurement tool a team/fan uses to access the importance/production of a player, but having said that, to not use Analytics when there is so much data out there today, would be dumb.
- Codes1087


Damn bro, you are rockin it today
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 28 @ 3:27 PM ET
Dude... really, until Guance gets back from injury this is their team to lead.
Ffs
Sometimes I question whether you actually watch hockey or just watch the box score and analytics.

- Pres.cup

Lol
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