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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 1 @ 2:18 AM ET
A lot of feelings again today?
- LeftCoaster

Playoffs will cause them.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:19 AM ET
Yes and will say Granlund will have more opportunities in roles he will play to keep his points up not down this season.
- Nuck4U



He played all situations under WD. PP, PK, 1st line mins with the Sedins down the stretch, etc.


To act like he's a lock to play more minutes on a deeper team is foolish. Could it happen? Sure. But you're acting like it's some sort of a foregone conclusion.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:19 AM ET
Its really tough to predict lines.
Granny is looking great.
Depth upfront looking good.
D needs work & the pairings need better ideas. Yes EG seems to be a tough one.
Maybe...

Edler EG
Hutton Tanev
MDZ Stecher

Either of Pedan or Weircioch as the 7th
14 F's is expected IMO

- Nighthawk


Look at previous page post response to Belcher for forward lines. I'm leaning they stick with 8 D still. As for pairs pretty good just switch Guddy with Stecher for puck moving balance.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:19 AM ET
A lot of feelings again today?
- LeftCoaster


Lack of reading comprehension and passing off opinion as fact.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 1 @ 2:24 AM ET
Playoffs will cause them.
- manvanfan

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:25 AM ET
He played all situations under WD. PP, PK, 1st line mins with the Sedins down the stretch, etc.


To act like he's a lock to play more minutes on a deeper team is foolish. Could it happen? Sure. But you're acting like it's some sort of a foregone conclusion.

- Nucker101


His minutes went up later in the season and especially with Hansen and Burr out. He'll get more from the get go and average out over season if healthy.

But really saying more opportunities, not ice time per say, as far as deployment. Sedins aside, enigma how TG handles, Granlund seems to be TG's go to guy after Bo. Sutter was WD's last season. That's my difference on why his production won't tumble this season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 1 @ 2:25 AM ET
Thought you could take a bit of adversity and not get ruffled personally.

Yes you do like Ganger JV and Burmistrov line as I do. Why I just couldn't understand the don't want him to stay up to play with Sutter and DD posting counter numerous times. I think TG knows him well enough not to do that and based on deployment will stick to it.

As for Granlund the stat you give is sound. The reason doesn't stand because he will be used a heck of lot more and get more opportunities. It's been evident all pre-season deployed as center. With Bo back I see less time for Sedin line not Granlund. Who will get both PK and PP too.

Not getting into contract on Guddy at this point. But you yourself have said he needs a puck moving D and MDZ looks good for him.

As for lines I fixed what I liked from Belcher's post. TG can prove me wrong or not.

- Nuck4U

If Granlund stays at center. Having Gagner, burmy, virtanen as a line would most lilely be a 4th line. Sheltered minutes and Van wouldnt have the checking line of Sutter, Dorsett, Archibald, Megna. I would rather sprinkle burmy and gagner about the line up then any of those other 4 guys.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 1 @ 2:26 AM ET
Lack of reading comprehension and passing off opinion as fact.
- Nucker101

That sounds a lot like Nuck4U and Donna
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:30 AM ET
His minutes went up later in the season and especially with Hansen and Burr out. He'll get more from the get go and average out over season if healthy.

But really saying more opportunities, it ice time per say, as far as deployment. Sedins aside, enigma how TG handles, Granlund seems to be TG's go to guy after Bo. Sutter was WD's last season. That's my difference on why his production won't tumble this season.

- Nuck4U


Sooo..more offensive zone starts is what you're saying?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:31 AM ET
If Granlund stays at center. Having Gagner, burmy, virtanen as a line would most lilely be a 4th line. Sheltered minutes and Van wouldnt have the checking line of Sutter, Dorsett, Archibald, Megna. I would rather sprinkle burmy and gagner about the line up then any of those other 4 guys.
- manvanfan

Only issue is that you then have Eriksson with Sutter I'm guessing? And that means LE is gonna have another bad year at 5v5. Eriksson with the Sedins at 5v5 is too slow as well.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:32 AM ET
That sounds a lot like Nuck4U and Donna
- LeftCoaster

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:32 AM ET
Have to head out but before I do I just have to say, I fcuking hate Toronto, Toronto anything. The Leafs coach is good but holy majorly over rated, refs are doing everything to help them win. I hope the entire team crashes and burns.

Oh and my apologies to post and run but I'll check in later tonight and take care of any trolls that take exception to my post.

- Makita

hate leads to the dark side
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:34 AM ET
If Granlund stays at center. Having Gagner, burmy, virtanen as a line would most lilely be a 4th line. Sheltered minutes and Van wouldnt have the checking line of Sutter, Dorsett, Archibald, Megna. I would rather sprinkle burmy and gagner about the line up then any of those other 4 guys.
- manvanfan


I get it but my theory on a checking line with this club is that it will play the most minutes 5x5 because the opposition will have better stacked lines. Look at today for example Sutter DA and Megna were always out against Mcdavid & co.

Why I say then go with LE, Bo Sutter as a checking and scoring line. They can steal puck and break up ice to drive net for goals. But they don't have to score in every game with the rest of the lines balanced.

Look at my post response, previous page, to Belcher on lines. The rest of the balanced lines are middle six types that will get scoring by group consistency. Why if all healthy don't need Sutter with DD & DA. Let scoring support of Ganger Burm JV do the talking.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:39 AM ET
That sounds a lot like Nuck4U and Donna
- LeftCoaster


Lefty logic = fake news.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 1 @ 2:40 AM ET
That sounds a lot like Nuck4U and Donna
- LeftCoaster

You are fat
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:41 AM ET
Only issue is that you then have Eriksson with Sutter I'm guessing? And that means LE is gonna have another bad year at 5v5. Eriksson with the Sedins at 5v5 is too slow as well.
- Nucker101


Not with Bo between them. Styles and drive to net plays will produce for them. But more importantly they will check stacked top lines well and win faceoffs.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:45 AM ET
Sooo..more offensive zone starts is what you're saying?
- Nucker101


More starts period right behind Bo.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:52 AM ET
You are fat
- CanuckDon

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 2:56 AM ET
Hope NB changes up PP units.

Two rules. Take Edler off period. Never start with the Sedins if together.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:57 AM ET
Hope NB changes up PP units.

Two rules. Take Edler off period. Never start with the Sedins if together.

- Nuck4U


Agreed on both points. I think splitting them up on the PP is more plausible than on 5v5. That unit with Henrik out there with the 4 others looked really dangerous.

Burmistrov also looks in over his head as the C on the 2nd unit, he's always fumbling the puck or trying to do too much. Don't see why he or Sutter should see any PP time when the roster is healthy. Sedins, Boeser, Horvat, Sven, Vanek, Granlund and Eriksson are all better options.

MDZ and Stecher should get the most PP mins on the back end. I'd just roll with 4 forwards and 1 of them on each unit.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Oct 1 @ 2:59 AM ET
As long as he gets minutes and a decent playmaker, I agree.
- Nucker101

I liked how he looked the other day when playing with gagner. they read each other pretty well
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 1 @ 3:00 AM ET
I liked how he looked the other day when playing with gagner. they read each other pretty well
- SMBDragon

For sure, they have some chemistry going.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 3:03 AM ET
You are fat
- CanuckDon

sorry but that was funny
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Oct 1 @ 3:04 AM ET
Bo is a center and by default he found himself in key situations. Playing PK, occasional PP and late game situations.

JV is a winger. There are 6-7 other guys he has to be better than to get into those spots. Sitting and waiting on the 4th line vs first in the AHL and getting a call up for that spot shouldn't be so much of a discussion.

It was a preseason game at home tonight and he didn't break 9 minutes playing on the "4th" line. Every coach says they're gonna roll lines but when its a close game, they're on the road, a losing streak, he made a bad pass, or any number of things that pinch the coaches coaching nerve and he won't be rolling lines or playing.

Willie said he would and kinda did for a year even too much, when times were good. Once the losing hit, he stopped and started doubling down on vets. Every coach does.

Green barely had Boeser playing tonight, let alone Virtanen, but Megna got like 15 minutes by Trying hard despite fumbling the puck and merely getting in the way defensively despite not being able to really make a play defensively.

- Lindenis#1

ya likely theyve already made decisions on most players and play a guy like megna more minutes to evaluate better
what pre season is for
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 1 @ 3:07 AM ET
Agreed on both points. I think splitting them up on the PP is more plausible than on 5v5. That unit with Henrik out there with the 4 others looked really dangerous.

Burmistrov also looks in over his head as the C on the 2nd unit, he's always fumbling the puck or trying to do too much. Don't see why he or Sutter should see any PP time when the roster is healthy. Sedins, Boeser, Horvat, Sven, Vanek, Granlund and Eriksson are all better options.

MDZ and Stecher should get the most PP mins on the back end. I'd just roll with 4 forwards and 1 of them on each unit.

- Nucker101


Agreed on D and player options. Totally on Sutter as well no PP. But Burm on PP looked good as wing option paired up with Bo as C. It's an option if Sven is fracking up.

I doubt they split the Sedins though they should. But hope they start them less as they tend to hog too many minutes even when other players have changed. They are always looking for that deft set up play. Put Bo & Co out first who drive fast and hard. If they can't set up or score then send in Sedins to work on tired/softened PK.
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