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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 30 @ 4:21 PM ET
That's exactly what I was implying....jesus christ you guys get defensive.


I guess you guys would never question an employee at any job, ever dispute a ticket or a decision a boss/manager makes.

- Nucker101

I stock shelves for a living, what the (frank) do I know
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:22 PM ET
I stock shelves for a living, what the (frank) do I know
- CanuckDon



And I still work at a lumber yard so I get to call Sutter soft
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
That's the thing, JV will be hard pressed to create offense on that line and won't get PP time either.
- Nucker101


well i wouldn't say those configurations are set in stone. You could just as easily play him with someone who can dish the puck (don't laugh) like Gagner, Granlund, etc.

i think JV makes the roster at least to start, if he falters, send him down again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
I stock shelves for a living, what the (frank) do I know
- CanuckDon



I knew you were Benning
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
poll question time.

Who would you rather see make the Canucks, JV or Archie?

if you assume the rest is fairly set, despite where they slot in:

Sedin-Sedin-Granlund
Sven-Bo-Brock
Vanek-Gagner-Erikson
Dorsett-Sutter-??
Burmistov

- dbot


Archie.... but that being said, Benning cannot afford a single public (frank)up in the eyes of the fans... and I think the fans want JV.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
And I still work at a lumber yard so I get to call Sutter soft
- Nucker101

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:24 PM ET
well i wouldn't say those configurations are set in stone. You could just as easily play him with someone who can dish the puck (don't laugh) like Gagner, Granlund, etc.
- dbot


Yeah, I'd keep him up if he gets to play with a more creative linemate(s)


I like Archibald over Dorsett at this point, but just hope Archibald's lack of speed(which he's improved over the years) won't stop him from being a good forechecker at the NHL level.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:25 PM ET
I stock shelves for a living, what the (frank) do I know
- CanuckDon

You got promoted?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:27 PM ET
And I still work at a lumber yard so I get to call Sutter soft
- Nucker101


"Fixin’ up my house, now whoops! I need a hand…Lumberland"

(Dedicated to the old schoolers)




(Nominated for post of the year)
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 30 @ 4:30 PM ET
You got promoted?
- Marwood

And I got .75c per hour raise
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:33 PM ET
Yeah, I'd keep him up if he gets to play with a more creative linemate(s)


I like Archibald over Dorsett at this point, but just hope Archibald's lack of speed(which he's improved over the years) won't stop him from being a good forechecker at the NHL level.

- Nucker101


Dorsett just brings a level of toughness that is known by opponents. He can stop something through intimidation. That being said, I think Archie is hungrier.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 30 @ 4:33 PM ET
poll question time.

Who would you rather see make the Canucks, JV or Archie?

if you assume the rest is fairly set, despite where they slot in:

Sedin-Sedin-Granlund
Sven-Bo-Brock
Vanek-Gagner-Erikson
Dorsett-Sutter-??
Burmistov

- dbot


JV can do everything DA can do but faster while contributing offence and having way more upside. It's simple. JV.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Comets game starts at 2 p.m. PT.

Here's that lineup. Brett McKenzie getting a good look!

https://twitter.com/OD_Co...status/914226942131494912
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
Dorsett just brings a level of toughness that is known by opponents. He can stop something through intimidation. That being said, I think Archie is hungrier.
- Beatle_john






Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:42 PM ET





- Nucker101



Ok, thats all well and good but after 400+ minor league games this should be expected. I am not sure how much that junior level of 'truculence' --- and respect to him for it --- translates to the NHL.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Comets game starts at 2 p.m. PT.

Here's that lineup. Brett McKenzie getting a good look!

https://twitter.com/OD_Co...status/914226942131494912

- Carol Schram



Wow. Thanks. Any online link to the game? Radio even?


Gotta love those Utica Uniforms.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Ok, thats all well and good but after 400+ minor league games this should be expected. I am not sure how much that junior level of 'truculence' --- and respect to him for it --- translates to the NHL.
- Beatle_john



AHL has way more goonery than the NHL, and more enforcers in general that are big boys. It's not like this is CHL video. A lot of AHL teams have at least 1 to protect their NHL club's prospects.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
Agree I do skim through posters or at least try to . I am honestly feeling guilty that others have to read our in house bickering . Yesterday was a joke of a day . Not again today.
- VANTEL


Yes.
Positivity Saturday


I can walk today, i can even sit up for 15 minute stretches and it appears there isn't any nerve or permanent damage!

I'm looking forward to see what the lines look like in game one!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
And I got .75c per hour raise
- CanuckDon

You must have been an exceptional Greeter. Right on!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
That's the thing, JV will be hard pressed to create offense on that line and won't get PP time either.
- Nucker101


Like last year, last pre season game means squat. Remember the outrage over Horvat on the 4rth? He actually only spent 3 or 4 minutes with 4rth liners in the opener but people still go on about Horvat being used as a 4rth liner. Even after 81.75% the games he was top 6...

If JV makes the team, he'll get used in different situations pretty quick. Coaches love guys with foot speed that are hungry for minutes. I expect JV will see time on all of the bottom 3 lines this season. Archie doesn't have the versatility to be that guy.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 30 @ 4:50 PM ET
Like last year, last pre season game means squat. Remember the outrage over Horvat on the 4rth? He actually only spent 3 or 4 minutes with 4rth liners in the opener but people still go on about Horvat being used as a 4rth liner. Even after 81.75% the games he was top 6...

If JV makes the team, he'll get used in different situations pretty quick. Coaches love guys with foot speed that are hungry for minutes. I expect JV will see time on all of the bottom 3 lines this season. Archie doesn't have the versatility to be that guy.

- boonerbuck


Difference is that Horvat had Sutter/Vey ahead of him on the depth chart at center. The oath to top 6 minutes + PP time was easier.

JV is behind Daniel, Eriksson, Vanek, Baertschi, Boeser, Granlund/Gagner(whichever one is playing wing) for top 6 mins and PP time.

I have no issues with him making the team or sending him down since I can see the positives in making either choice. The only way I'm against it is if he's with Dorsett and Sutter and playing 8-9 minutes per game. I don't think that's the best for his offensive confidence/development.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:50 PM ET
AHL has way more goonery than the NHL, and more enforcers in general that are big boys. It's not like this is CHL video. A lot of AHL teams have at least 1 to protect their NHL club's prospects.
- Nucker101


Agreed, (wow, thats rare on here, huh?) but I don;t see how the best of minor league reputations is better than a good NHL one. In that respect, I think Archie is a long way off of replacing Dorsett. Not to say he is not one tough SOB.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 4:51 PM ET
Like last year, last pre season game means squat. Remember the outrage over Horvat on the 4rth? He actually only spent 3 or 4 minutes with 4rth liners in the opener but people still go on about Horvat being used as a 4rth liner. Even after 81.75% the games he was top 6...

If JV makes the team, he'll get used in different situations pretty quick. Coaches love guys with foot speed that are hungry for minutes. I expect JV will see time on all of the bottom 3 lines this season. Archie doesn't have the versatility to be that guy.

- boonerbuck



I hate it when you make an excellent point. ....................
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 30 @ 4:51 PM ET
Despite what the "professionals always knows more than us" crowd says, GM's do a lot of stupid poop and a lot of it is obvious from the moment the move/signing happens, it's not just hindsight.
- Nucker101


The closer you are to a tree the less you see the forest behind it.
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Sep 30 @ 4:52 PM ET
Problem facing any decision right now is, who kills penalties after Sutter Granlund and Erickson? Maybe Bo and Dorsett.
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