Who is more likely to get a scratch or sat for a period for a mistake?

Sanheim/Morin/Konec/Laughton/Leier?

Or Weise/Mac. Truth be horrific.
- flyer_nutter

Weise got healthy scratched 15 times last season.

You just nailed it.

I expect to see D pairs on Wednesday night of

Provy-AMac
Sanheim-Gudas
Hagg-Morin
with Manning in the presser.

then Provy runs PP1 and Sanheim runs PP2.

Once Ghost is back they'll figure out the Sanheim/Manning/AMac dilemma
- dragonoffrost

I'd put Sanheim on the top PP and have Hagg on the right side of Morin but I agree with everything else you have there.

Weise got healthy scratched 15 times last season.
- Feanor

It's amazing some of the stuff you read. Weise is the coaches favorite, which is why Lindholm didn't make the team. Ignoring Weise spent considerable time in the press box last season. The Flyers won't play young players yet they put a 19 year old defenseman on the team last season straight out of junior level hockey and played the crap out of him as well as Konecny.

When we signed Hatcher and traded for Pronger, I think it's always been clear the Flyers have always wanted a defensive monster on the back end. I think Morin will be a defensive threat right away.

The match ups I wanna see tomorrow is Thornton/Morin, Provorv/Pevelski. I assume Couture will play with one of them.

Speedy two way tenacious forward who can score the odd goal. In his call ups in the past he was late on plays which was odd based on his speed. Him and Laughton have a history playing together so we will see how the 4th line chemistry looks.
- Baxter27

Thank you!

It's amazing some of the stuff you read. Weise is the coaches favorite, which is why Lindholm didn't make the team. Ignoring Weise spent considerable time in the press box last season. The Flyers won't play young players yet they put a 19 year old defenseman on the team last season straight out of junior level hockey and played the crap out of him as well as Konecny.
- MJL

And they would never waive a veteran to the Phantoms to make room for a rookie.

And they would never waive a veteran to the Phantoms to make room for a rookie.
- Feanor

Never, ever!

I for one am elated that this franchise didn't commit the cardinal sin of hockey: starting 3 rookie along with 2 young defensemen. Truly, this team would be doomed from the start without the likes of steady veterans Andrew MavDonald and Brandon Manning. An iced defense featuring Sanhiem, Morin, and Hagg lacks the intangibles required to perform well on the ice.
- Giroux_Is_God

thank god your'e here.

If he's truly ready to be the NHL impact player Hextall wants him to be, he's going to show that pretty quick in the AHL. The rookie D situation is much more concerning to me. I don't see Manning providing more value to a line up than Morin. Sanheim is still a bit of a Catch 22 who could benefit from more AHL time but I think they'll need him on the PP if Ghost is out.
- Baxter27

So him scoring at the AHL level will prove to Hextall that he is ready to score at the NHL level? He already has, btw.

It is literally the exact same situation, the perception is just different because Sanheim scored a few goals and Lindblom didn't. Both rookies have attributes that are missing form the team and have the ability (and deserve) NHL roster spots based on how they played vs. competition. If Morin gets sent down, what are we going to say he needs to work on? (I am going to guess it is whatever Hextall claims was the reason)

The AHL isn't going to hurt any of the rookies they have a choice of sending down.

Amac is playing to showcase his minute eating ability to st louis who lost Bowfingermeister.

if morin doesn't play this weekend, i will be a 1 man riot in LA.

It's amazing some of the stuff you read. Weise is the coaches favorite, which is why Lindholm didn't make the team. Ignoring Weise spent considerable time in the press box last season. The Flyers won't play young players yet they put a 19 year old defenseman on the team last season straight out of junior level hockey and played the crap out of him as well as Konecny.
- MJL

All 3 [drafted] rookies they played last year proved they were ready to play in the NHL once they were given the chance to do so.

if morin doesn't play this weekend, i will be a 1 man riot in LA.
- hammarby31

so it was 1 guy on the bus this whole time?

So him scoring at the AHL level will prove to Hextall that he is ready to score at the NHL level? He already has, btw.

It is literally the exact same situation, the perception is just different because Sanheim scored a few goals and Lindblom didn't. Both rookies have attributes that are missing form the team and have the ability (and deserve) NHL roster spots based on how they played vs. competition. If Morin gets sent down, what are we going to say he needs to work on? (I am going to guess it is whatever Hextall claims was the reason)

The AHL isn't going to hurt any of the rookies they have a choice of sending down.
- YuenglingJagr

I'm concerned we are nearing a point with Morin where more AHL time will be hurting his long term outlook.

So him scoring at the AHL level will prove to Hextall that he is ready to score at the NHL level? He already has, btw.

It is literally the exact same situation, the perception is just different because Sanheim scored a few goals and Lindblom didn't. Both rookies have attributes that are missing form the team and have the ability (and deserve) NHL roster spots based on how they played vs. competition. If Morin gets sent down, what are we going to say he needs to work on? (I am going to guess it is whatever Hextall claims was the reason)

The AHL isn't going to hurt any of the rookies they have a choice of sending down.
- YuenglingJagr

The biggest mistake here is comparing situations with each player. Each player is an individual with a unique situation. It was clear in the lesser level of play in the pre season that Lindblom did not assert himself offensively. Not just goals and assists. His play away from the puck is fine but he showed he's not ready to play offensively at the NHL level. Sending him to the AHL to work on his game is the right call and a smart move from the Flyers.

I'm concerned we are nearing a point with Morin where more AHL time will be hurting his long term outlook.
- JFlyers00

I agree with Hextall. AHL time has never hurt a player. I do feel that Morin should be in the NHL though.

All 3
- YuenglingJagr[drafted] rookies they played last year proved they were ready to play in the NHL once they were given the chance to do so.

So we know the Flyers made the right call with those players last year?

And they would never waive a veteran to the Phantoms to make room for a rookie.
- Feanor

Read was the lowest risk and is the 14th (at best) forward on the roster. That's why he was waived. Nothing to do with his possible playing time over a younger player.

Read was the lowest risk and is the 14th (at best) forward on the roster. That's why he was waived. Nothing to do with his possible playing time over a younger player.
- mickel25

Did the Flyers waive any veterans in the past to make room for young players?

so it was 1 guy on the bus this whole time?
- YuenglingJagr

i think so. although i think mono asked the other day if there was room on the bus, and i said yes. i'm unclear if he has boarded.

So we know the Flyers made the right call with those players last year?
- MJL

Yes they scratched Konecny at the exact right times and keeping Jordan Weal out of the lineup proved to be an incredible step forward in his career, proving everything the Flyers choose to do is always correct.

Did the Flyers waive any veterans in the past to make room for young players?
- MJL

My point is they waived Read because he had virtually no chance of being claimed. Not because he outplayed or was outplayed by anyone. More asset management than anything.

Define past.

Yes they scratched Konecny at the exact right times and keeping Jordan Weal out of the lineup proved to be an incredible step forward in his career, proving everything the Flyers choose to do is always correct.
- YuenglingJagr

Watching Weal play last year and so far this year, it sure looks like the Flyers did a solid job in developing him into an NHL forward. Konecny has looked great this pre season also. I think he's going to have a strong season.

Yes they scratched Konecny at the exact right times and keeping Jordan Weal out of the lineup proved to be an incredible step forward in his career, proving everything the Flyers choose to do is always correct.
- YuenglingJagr

VDV is lighting it up with his new team. 81 games from that franking guy.

Did the Flyers waive any veterans in the past to make room for young players?
- MJL

I thought they only sent MacDonald down because of the salary cap?