Leafs have stronger save percentage with Marincin on the ice, in comparison to Rielly....so

Marincin > Rielly

https://www.hockey-refere.../2017.html#all_team_stats
- DamnBrasKiss

Cold Hard Facts right there

Go Marincin!

Leafs have stronger save percentage with Marincin on the ice, in comparison to Rielly....so

Marincin > Rielly

https://www.hockey-refere.../2017.html#all_team_stats
- DamnBrasKiss

I see you've been to James Tanner's school of hockey facts. Nice.

Can you please elaborate on this? Thanks
- RickJames77

No problem Rick, avec plaisir.

Pastrnak season one 27 points in 46 games, season 2 26 points in 51 games, last year 70 points. Points per game to date is .715 (marginally higher than Nylander)

Nylander 13 points in 22 games 1st year, 61 points last year .711 points per game.

Pastrnak production significantly increased last year, as one can expect the same for Nylander this year. Both play on very good lines, Nylander would have to score 49 points in his first 69 games to match Pastrnak - IMO he does better than that.

I see you've been to James Tanner's school of hockey facts. Nice.
- Scabeh

now imagine Gardiner and Marincin as a first D pair......damn, they will fight for the Norris, leaving everyone else far behind

Cold Hard Facts right there

Go Marincin!

Trade Rielly!

- Symba007

fixed

Basically he plays for Toronto therefore he is better than players that have produced similarly or better than him.
- Feds91Stammer

No, he doesn't play for the Wings so he won't be eliminated from playoffs in February.

No problem Rick, avec plaisir.

Pastrnak season one 27 points in 46 games, season 2 26 points in 51 games, last year 70 points. Points per game to date is .715 (marginally higher than Nylander)

Nylander 13 points in 22 games 1st year, 61 points last year .711 points per game.

Pastrnak production significantly increased last year, as one can expect the same for Nylander this year. Both play on very good lines, Nylander would have to score 49 points in his first 69 games to match Pastrnak - IMO he does better than that.
- winsix

Oh so Pastrnak made it to the NHL when he was 18 and didn't perform as well as a 20 or 21 yo Nylander did in his first years. Got it

This is classic

No, he doesn't play for the Wings so he won't be eliminated from playoffs in February.
- winsix

Ahh I see you have subscribed to the "your team sucks therefore your opinion is invalid" debate strategy. Congrats on being an asshat.

Ahh I see you have subscribed to the "your team sucks therefore your opinion is invalid" debate strategy. Congrats on being an asshat.
- Feds91Stammer

Better than the Vancouver "my team sucks therefor your opinion is invalid" debate strategy.

Better than the Vancouver "my team sucks therefor your opinion is invalid" debate strategy.
- markmark

Oh so Pastrnak made it to the NHL when he was 18 and didn't perform as well as a 20 or 21 yo Nylander did in his first years. Got it

This is classic
- RickJames77

no place for logic here

Oh so Pastrnak made it to the NHL when he was 18 and didn't perform as well as a 20 or 21 yo Nylander did in his first years. Got it

This is classic
- RickJames77

i hate this debate.

fact is, we should both be laughing at vancouver for not taking nylander and pastrnak.

thanks @ nucks

i hate this debate.

fact is, we should both be laughing at vancouver for not taking nylander and pastrnak.

thanks @ nucks
- Tumbleweed

I've actually never had this debate with you guys. I just wanted clarification on why Nylander's numbers project higher than Pastrnak's.

They're both great players.

I knew he was going to us PPG and you can't do that with young players when one was in the league at 18 and the other wasn't - it's not apples to apples

Oh so Pastrnak made it to the NHL when he was 18 and didn't perform as well as a 20 or 21 yo Nylander did in his first years. Got it

This is classic
- RickJames77

For those keeping score at home:

Career even strength points per 60:

Nylander: 1.84
Ehlers: 1.91
Pastrnak: 2.25

Clearly Nylander is better

No problem Rick, avec plaisir.

Pastrnak season one 27 points in 46 games, season 2 26 points in 51 games, last year 70 points. Points per game to date is .715 (marginally higher than Nylander)

Nylander 13 points in 22 games 1st year, 61 points last year .711 points per game.

Pastrnak production significantly increased last year, as one can expect the same for Nylander this year. Both play on very good lines, Nylander would have to score 49 points in his first 69 games to match Pastrnak - IMO he does better than that.
- winsix

Who cares what Pastrnak did developing as an 18 year old? It's what both players should/will do in the future that will determine their value. Not their career PPG..

Imo both players should post similar numbers next season.... you can't expect Nylander to have a similar jump in production than Pastrnak did because he's already posting top winger numbers...... while Pastrnak had room for improvement posting only 26 points.

My guess they both get in the 70 range points this season.

i hate this debate.

fact is, we should both be laughing at vancouver for not taking nylander and pastrnak.

thanks @ nucks
- Tumbleweed

Or DET for taking Larkin over Pastrnak

For those keeping score at home:

Career even strength points per 60:

Nylander: 1.84
Ehlers: 1.91
Pastrnak: 2.25

Clearly Nylander is better
- Feds91Stammer

God I hate your stats Stammer. Even though I like ya.

Why would powerplay points matter less than even strenght points?

For those keeping score at home:

Career even strength points per 60:

Nylander: 1.84
Ehlers: 1.91
Pastrnak: 2.25

Clearly Nylander is better
- Feds91Stammer

Clearly you are trolling...

For those keeping score at home:

Career even strength points per 60:

Nylander: 1.84
Ehlers: 1.91
Pastrnak: 2.25

Clearly Nylander is better
- Feds91Stammer

Or DET for taking Larkin over Pastrnak
- Feds91Stammer

At least he's pretty good.

Clearly you are trolling...
- bixll

I'm not bixy - I was just triggered.

Sorry

Or DET for taking Larkin over Pastrnak
- Feds91Stammer

For what it's worth, I thought Larkin looked really good last Friday? (The 1st TOR/DET preseason game)

I'm not bixy - I was just triggered.

Sorry
- RickJames77

Not You..

Oh so Pastrnak made it to the NHL when he was 18 and didn't perform as well as a 20 or 21 yo Nylander did in his first years. Got it

This is classic
- RickJames77

We will have to wait and see, Nylander did reasonably well last year, playing on an all-rookie line. The fact that Pastrnak played in the NHL at age 18 had more to do with team situations and philosophy than ability. It would be a nice pipe-dream to hope that the 25th pick will turn out better than the 8th pick - it was a strange draft and if there was a do-over Pastrnak gets picked in the top five probably. I just think Nylander is better - you don't have to agree, nor do you have jump overboard with mocking it.

Or DET for taking Larkin over Pastrnak
- Feds91Stammer

or for trading away chychurn so you could sign neilsen