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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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SRam19
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Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain Joined: 02.12.2015
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Let the hysteria begin
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Robio
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Location: Dalian Joined: 02.16.2007
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Ya Carol!!!! - LordHumungous
Thanks Carol!
3-2 Nucks |
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Makita
Referee Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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Codes1087
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Thank you Carol
5-2 Jets. Jets top line combining for 4 of those goals.
Boeser with zero points and this place erupts |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Thanks Carol.
I'ma go 4-2 Canucks... Edler, LE, BB, and Bo with the goals. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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What's up with the team's powerplay?
Is it purely lack of skill because for the longest time the PP was a strength. For the last 3+ seasons this franchise seems have forgotten how to play it. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Dude...don't go trying to change the 'draftists' mind..they just don't get it.
ANA won the cup in 2007 with only 4 players actually drafted by the Ducks...
- LordHumungous
That's but one example of winning, that is not the norm as you would have everyone believe
As a general rule of thumb you don't win without drafting your core, even Anaheim drafted Getzlaf and Perry when they won it in 2007, Getzlaf was their leading scorer in the playoffs that year and Perry was tied for second.
A lot of things went right for them that year, Scott Neidermayer wanted to play with his brother and Burkie took Lowe to the cleaners trading for Pronger. |
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Codes1087
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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What's up with the team's powerplay?
Is it purely lack of skill because for the longest time the PP was a strength. For the last 3+ seasons this franchise seems have forgotten how to play it. - bloatedmosquito
newell brown is still watching 2011 clips |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I'd say it is better to stay competitive and pass a winning tradition down to the next generation instead of purposefully losing in hopes of lucking into a McD or Crosby at the draft. - Robio
They're not staying competitive though, most middling teams aren't. So how do you pass down a winning tradition when you're losing and not making the playoffs?
Also...you don't need a generational talent to win, both Los Angeles and Chicago won five Cups without a generational talent like Crosby or McDavid. Toews and Kane are not generational talents, neither is Crawford or Keith or Seabrook but they won three Cups with that core.
LA won with Kopitar, which was luck in the 2005 draft, and Doughty and Quick, and Voynov and Martinez and a number of depth players they drafted. But they were not competitive, that's a fallacy.
Detroit is the ONLY team that remained competitive for two decades because of drafting several players that no one else drafted. Well the Zetterberg and Datsyuk run is over and they're no longer competitive. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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What's up with the team's powerplay?
Is it purely lack of skill because for the longest time the PP was a strength. For the last 3+ seasons this franchise seems have forgotten how to play it. - bloatedmosquito
No skill, no PP success/ |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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John Farrell sacked by the RedSox? |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Thanks Carol.
I'ma go 4-2 Canucks... Edler, LE, BB, and Bo with the goals. - NewYorkNuck
4-2 Jets.
Marky Pulled.
#reality. |
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4-2 Jets.
Marky Pulled.
#reality. - LordHumungous
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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What's up with the team's powerplay?
Is it purely lack of skill because for the longest time the PP was a strength. For the last 3+ seasons this franchise seems have forgotten how to play it. - bloatedmosquito
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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newell brown is still watching 2011 clips - Codes1087
But you still have two very smart, skilled guys on your team that should be able to come up with some suggestions of their own. Hell, the twins were there during the heyday. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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#Salo - LordHumungous
Now that makes sense. I'm assuming you are a believer that PP success is driven from the back-end. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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No skill, no PP success/ - LeftCoaster
I'd say break up the Sedins for the PP. Daniel has become much less aggressive, and both him and Henrik are look more pass. It'll force Henrik to find other players, and then PP2 can have a great passer on it as well.
Hank, Vanek, BB, Edler, Baer
Bo, LE, Ganger, Hutton, Daniel
Or whoever... just based off what they have going so far this year. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I'd say break up the Sedins for the PP. Daniel has become much less aggressive, and both him and Henrik are look more pass. It'll force Henrik to find other players, and then PP2 can have a great passer on it as well.
Hank, Vanek, BB, Edler, Baer
Bo, LE, Ganger, Hutton, Daniel
Or whoever... just based off what they have going so far this year. - NewYorkNuck
Works for me. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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I just want the kid to succeed or fail. Nothing in between so a concrete decision can be made on development direction and our own questions as fans can be answered. - bloatedmosquito
You trying to start something with me now? |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I just want the kid to succeed or fail. Nothing in between so a concrete decision can be made on development direction and our own questions as fans can be answered. - bloatedmosquito
There's zero failure in drafting at the top of the draft for a few years, nothing bad can come of it unless you totally pooch the pick, which is extremely uncommon...unless you're Kevin Lowe
Even drafting 5th overall could/could have brought us some great young players. Pettersson and Juolevi are great building blocks! Ehlers, Pettersson and Tkachuk would have been better, but that's what happens when you have an idiot for a GM |
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Robio
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Location: Dalian Joined: 02.16.2007
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It will be interesting to see how Det rebounds from its one down year as that will provide evidence for the "culture" theory.
The thing about middling teams is so many were so close with a few radical outliers. Parity has been reached with 18 teams over 90 points and 23 over 80. Having strong parity will allow teams to build without having to be awful for long stretches (as I feel we are doing)
Philly finished 19th and got the 2nd overall pick. What amazing luck. Maybe being middling will afford us the same luck while trying to maintain a winning culture. Best of all worlds... |
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