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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 15 @ 3:44 AM ET
True and really he's not a dominant skater so hard for him to do that. But BB plays D well and backchecks. Always looking to create or get a shot in. Surprised Bo hasn't been able to click with him yet. Maybe trying to figure out all the tight checking. Also Bo keeps missing the net!
- Nuck4U



BB could use a dynamic skater who cuts across the zone & finds him. Neither BO nor Hank is that. A Kane is ideal or D who can skate great which we don't have.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 15 @ 3:46 AM ET
This team needs Dahlin.
- phyllee



That would be an instant fix for 1 problem but at C we still need playmakers eventually or wingers simply don't get fed
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 15 @ 3:48 AM ET
Imagine how different we could look with McCann and those 2nds he traded.
Edit: Also, taking Nylander over Virt.

- golfingsince



A 3rd line W/C ain't helpin us much
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 15 @ 3:49 AM ET
They are 4 years away. He will be gone by then
- VANTEL



Thats very possible.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 15 @ 3:53 AM ET
Past 2 drafts i said trade down.

Nobody agreed & were stuck on higher the pick the better. My reasoning was assets & let JB have more darts & draft smarter vs a top 5. Eg if we pass on Sergachev & took OJ trading down could've still worked. As for EP idk but still i like him whether a trade down or not. The JV draft Ehlers or Nylander was in our range in hindsight.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 15 @ 3:53 AM ET


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 4:04 AM ET
So then only ice Horvat and Boeser as forwards, and have the net empty.
- Makita

I like it! maky for head coach!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 15 @ 4:04 AM ET
Pvr'd the game as I was at work. So much for exciting hockey.
Liked Pullout, in his limited minutes, Hutton should be in minors, Vanek is....well whatever.
Really like 3d... Del Zotto has been impressive, Gudbranson has looked good and of course Tanev.
Baertschi... Well, enough Mason Raymond types. Sitter Granlund Dorset were fine, Horvat needs to stop being puck hog, Boeser is not quite ready, the rest...meh
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 15 @ 4:22 AM ET
BB could use a dynamic skater who cuts across the zone & finds him. Neither BO nor Hank is that. A Kane is ideal or D who can skate great which we don't have.
- Nighthawk


Hank distributes better then Bo but Hank can't cut across like you said. Bo should learn to do that instead of just play a power forward game. But probably JV is better for Bo as he grows his game. Where EP probably could blend with BB.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 4:56 AM ET
So —�- apparently part of the reason Pouliot was available is because he has a “party” problem. The Canucks are hoping they can get him off the sauce and extras. Sorry Nucker, I won’t share this source
- CanuckDon

Nah, I can buy this one. Guy has been accused for being out of shape and not taking training seriously while in Pitt.
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Oct 15 @ 6:28 AM ET
It is interesting how people watch the same game or team and point out opposite issues. You got people complaining that the team is vet loaded and kids aren't playing. Then you saying the kids play but suck as an example.

But when a team is in a rebuild everyone seems to think they know the answers. It's the GM's fault. It's the coaches fault. It's the players fault. It's the owners fault. And finally it's the fans fault for not supporting the team. Perhaps all play a role.

But the real answer is none of the above. Nothing seems to work in a rebuild until it does. Most often the critics miss the process. It's not some simple recipe to follow. Probably because it's more fluid and complicated with no surity. The variables are many and in constant flux not only internally with the organization/team but externally with the league and competition.

Which means more often then not the outcome is failure. That's why it's a bottom line measure which keeps getting recycled until it works.

- Nuck4U


Do you always have to write a novel?
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Oct 15 @ 6:31 AM ET
BB could use a dynamic skater who cuts across the zone & finds him. Neither BO nor Hank is that. A Kane is ideal or D who can skate great which we don't have.
- Nighthawk


Are you suggesting that we try build around a kid who is being gifred garbage ninutes and pp minutes that doesn't score?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:41 AM ET
I believe I have for the last few years been saying this exact same thing. There are so many here that their entire theme is to whine the exact same poop every day 5-7 times a day. It really is tiresome to read, Benning is an idiot, Linden should be fired, too many vets taking up minutes, Sedins should play 3rd line minutes, if the play the youth more there will be no complaints (BS).

I will say the youth suck because in my opinion they are complementary pieces that are not talented enough to hold down top minutes. The vets are long in the tooth and should be pushed by the youth to a lesser role, but these aren’t the ones to do it.

So as long as people continue with the same BS shtick over and over, I’ll continue to post my BS shtick.

- Makita

JB isn't an idiot.

I still don't know what TL does.

The vets do take up too many key minutes together.

The youth are complimentary pieces but they have youth on their side. Speed, and energy. Find the right mix and the right combo.

Youth doesn't need to take over right now but they have to be allowed to help out.

The Sedin's with 8 minutes of ice time on the PP.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:53 AM ET
Wow did Van miss out on Will Butcher. 8 assists in 5 games. Hutton who?

Victor Mete zero points in 5 games.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 9:32 AM ET
Home games with under 16,000 attendance:
97/98: 11
98/99: 26
99/00: 30
00/01: 10
01/02: 4
02/03-16/17: 0
17/18: 1 so far#Canucks#DarkDays

97/98 - 64 points
98/99 - 58
99/00 - 83
00/01 - 90- made playoffs first time in 4 years.
01/02 - 94- made playoffs.

So the low attendance is normal for this fan base. Either make the playoffs or they don't show up.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 15 @ 10:32 AM ET
So —�- apparently part of the reason Pouliot was available is because he has a “party” problem. The Canucks are hoping they can get him off the sauce and extras. Sorry Nucker, I won’t share this source
- CanuckDon


BFD. Even if this was true. You don't think there are other kids in the NHL that do/have/did the same thing at that age?
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
why because he had a good start to the year now he will go 20 without a point and the mood changes, teams figure guys out how to stop them, mcdavid will even struggle at times, its his character that got him shipped out.
- Bettmanhatesus

I think he'll have a decent career and by the time he's 30 we can look back and say McCann was the better player of Gudbranson and himself.....that's why.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Home games with under 16,000 attendance:
97/98: 11
98/99: 26
99/00: 30
00/01: 10
01/02: 4
02/03-16/17: 0
17/18: 1 so far#Canucks#DarkDays

97/98 - 64 points
98/99 - 58
99/00 - 83
00/01 - 90- made playoffs first time in 4 years.
01/02 - 94- made playoffs.

So the low attendance is normal for this fan base. Either make the playoffs or they don't show up.

- manvanfan

It's normal for a most every fanbase, unlike some would have you/us believe. It's certainly not unique to Vancouver. That's a crook of poop!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
It's normal for a most every fanbase, unlike some would have you/us believe. It's certainly not unique to Vancouver. That's a crook of poop!
- LeftCoaster

Wasn't my tweet. Some other guys. I believe that most fan bases have down periods when the team isn't doing good. Van's fans are more like a Cali team fans. Edmonton, Toronto and the rest of the Cdn teams during their down periods were still near full. Even with bags over their heads.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
It's normal for a most every fanbase, unlike some would have you/us believe. It's certainly not unique to Vancouver. That's a crook of poop!
- LeftCoaster

Not Toronto or Edmonton. They still seem to fill their building pretty well white they were sh!t.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 15 @ 11:12 AM ET
Wasn't my tweet. Some other guys. I believe that most fan bases have down periods when the team isn't doing good. Van's fans are more like a Cali team fans. Edmonton, Toronto and the rest of the Cdn teams during their down periods were still near full.
- manvanfan

Almost every US based team, 80% of teams, do not blindly support a losing team. They have other options. I think Edmonton and Toronto are the exception not the rule.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 15 @ 11:13 AM ET
Not Toronto or Edmonton. They still seem to fill their building pretty well white they were sh!t.
- thundachunk

See above....exception not the rule. We make fun of them for their undying loyalty to a failure of a franchise and then turn around and say we should be more like them
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
Wasn't my tweet. Some other guys. I believe that most fan bases have down periods when the team isn't doing good. Van's fans are more like a Cali team fans. Edmonton, Toronto and the rest of the Cdn teams during their down periods were still near full. Even with bags over their heads.
- manvanfan

I'm still going to hit up one game with the boys. Night away from the wives and kids. Go on a bit of a runaway in the city. Good beer, good food, mediocre hockey. Whats not to like. I will get the food and beer not at the arena of course.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
Wasn't my tweet. Some other guys. I believe that most fan bases have down periods when the team isn't doing good. Van's fans are more like a Cali team fans. Edmonton, Toronto and the rest of the Cdn teams during their down periods were still near full. Even with bags over their heads.
- manvanfan


I wonder what other factors are involved though -- weather, lifestyle, cost, etc.

I'm sure if they really cut prices at the canucks games more people would show up.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
See above....exception not the rule.
- LeftCoaster

I did. I was just throwing in my 2 cents seeing as how they are in a Canadian market.
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