5 Years
- VanHockeyGuy

lol

You sure are optimistic this morning. we are picking 5th
- CanuckDon

6th

Tickets are affordable, but unless you live downtown there's also parking. Then there is food and beverages. Even when I had tickets it always cost me at least $100 to go to a game.
- golfingsince

i get that.

lowering the ticket prices does not affect that though. when you can already get tickets for the price the team would theoretically lower them to, there would be no net change in the price of attending a game.

social entertainment is expensive in cities.

lowering ticket prices would not do anything except for the mentally gifted who are still buying their single game tickets through the team.

6th
- LordHumungous

Does Virtanen have a younger brother or cousin we can draft?

as don mentioned earlier, you can get very affordable tickets in the secondary market.

anyone can buy tickets for less than $50 each. go on craig's list, there are enough season's tickets holders who will unload tickets below face value.

i'm sure a mid-week game against columbus or carolina will be dirt cheap.

the point being that it is affordable to go to games. the high priced tickets argument is an excuse for the empty building.

vancouver will not watch losing hockey. the game experience is largely created from the winning atmosphere not from the product in this town.

this city has canucks fans... not hockey fans.
- RealityChecker

I definitely wasnt using it as an excuse for an empty building, just noting that it could be beneficial to certain demographics of the fanbase.

Totally agree on the lack of hockey fans. Vancouver is not really a sports city either, they like teams that are winning and lose interest when they arent

do not lower ticket prices.

you put up with the poor attendance but don't discount the product.

no freaking giveaways either. papering the place is bad practice!

take the losses. build the right way and regrow the brand.
- RealityChecker

But then the burden is on the season ticket holders who have just paid a premium price for a sub par product. Door prices shouldn't change but you got to throw a bone to the folks who have been your longest and most loyal supporters. Loads of people have been there since the 70's. Can't piss off those folks.

6th
- LordHumungous

Nah. not unless we finish 4th or 5th from the bottom. We finish dead last and it's more likely to be top3 than 5 or 6 by a large margin. Unless you're superstitious or a conspiracy nut, in which case hockey is the least of your problems.

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- Carol Schram

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- Matthews_Auston

I want to thank Austin Matthews for saving hockey in North America. As we all know, not having a viable hockey team in the centre of the universe spelled certain death for the NHL. It's been dying for decades now.

But then the burden is on the season ticket holders who have just paid a premium price for a sub par product. Door prices shouldn't change but you got to throw a bone to the folks who have been your longest and most loyal supporters. Loads of people have been there since the 70's. Can't piss off those folks.
- bloatedmosquito

i can go along with this. i meant more in the single game ticket prices.

lowering season ticket prices should definitely be explored. especially if sign up/renew for multiple seasons. but we're not talking about huge slashes.

a rebuild will be a money loser. that's why they should have planned better for a total rebuild. also, when the team was making $10's of millions in profits every year, they should have known that it would be somewhat cyclical.

my rationale to not lowering prices is that any significant discount lowers the perception of entertainment value. if the nhl is the biggest sports/entertainment ticket in the city, the price should reflect such.

on the flip side, a small decrease in ticket prices does not really materially affect the cost of a game ($5 per ticket discount is not much to the total cost of a game). the perception that the team is getting desperate about attendance would drown out a small spike in attendance.

bottom line: put up with the empty seats. stick to the plan. rebuild the right way. the team will go from red to black shortly. no need to panic.

Sedin Sedin Granlund
MDZ Hutton
PP1

Baertschi - Burmistrov - Boeser
Stecher - Pouliot
PP2

Vanek - Horvat - Gagner practicing as extra/3rd PP.

#veteranmovement

Small sample size, but there is absolutely no shred of evidence that leads me to believe that this team is trending in the right direction, or improve on last years totals, based on what we have seen (again, small sample size).

Edler hurt. Markstrom shaky. very high Veteran deployment.

I remember looking at some of the boxscore results from the last few games, seeing Boeser play under 8 minutes, Virtanen under 8 minutes, Stecher the least of all defenseman with Hutton right ahead of him. All the while MDZ playing near 29 minutes a night after Edler was hurt, Sutter and Dorsett playing nearly 4 mins more than Horvat and Baertschi and the Sedins and "4th" line playing next to none. I know Green likes to line match, but he essentially eliminated a line the other game and sat 2 players for the entire period (LE and Virt)
- Codes1087

I’m not sure what box scores you were looking at, Boeser did have low minutes in the first game, but played like 17 the other night. Gudbranson must be averaging 14 minutes a night. Stecher and Hutton are train wrecks, sure they’re young, but they are terrible at playing defense. I’ve don’t believe I’ve seen Dorsett play more than Horvat or Granlund.

In the last game, the most went to Horvat, Baertschi, Boeser and Granlund on offence, with Del Zotto and Hutton on defense.

Does Virtanen have a younger brother or cousin we can draft?
- CanuckDon

HA!

Nah. not unless we finish 4th or 5th from the bottom. We finish dead last and it's more likely to be top3 than 5 or 6 by a large margin. Unless you're superstitious or a conspiracy nut, in which case hockey is the least of your problems.
- neem55

basically just based on Canuck luck.

why is this such a contentious issue for a rebuilding team?

rebuilding teams lose. they don't need rookies to lose if those rookies aren't ready.

rebuilding teams suck and the product on ice usually sucks.

suck it up butter cup.
- RealityChecker

Your username says all that has to be said.

i can go along with this. i meant more in the single game ticket prices.

lowering season ticket prices should definitely be explored. especially if sign up/renew for multiple seasons. but we're not talking about huge slashes.

a rebuild will be a money loser. that's why they should have planned better for a total rebuild. also, when the team was making $10's of millions in profits every year, they should have known that it would be somewhat cyclical.

my rationale to not lowering prices is that any significant discount lowers the perception of entertainment value. if the nhl is the biggest sports/entertainment ticket in the city, the price should reflect such.

on the flip side, a small decrease in ticket prices does not really materially affect the cost of a game ($5 per ticket discount is not much to the total cost of a game). the perception that the team is getting desperate about attendance would drown out a small spike in attendance.

bottom line: put up with the empty seats. stick to the plan. rebuild the right way. the team will go from red to black shortly. no need to panic.
- RealityChecker

That's my perspective too and that's what I thought you meant... But the conversation was turning around to 'you can get fee seats no problem".

I think those fee corporate seats are one of the biggest problems at major sporting events, especially at Rogers. For the most part, those people are the ones killing the atmosphere in the building. They have no vested interest in the game and their behaviour demonstrates that. Most, not all, are distracted or disinterested.

The only time they show any sign of life is leaving early and getting to their car to avoid traffic after the game.

Do away with those lame corporate fans. Schmucks.

i can go along with this. i meant more in the single game ticket prices.

lowering season ticket prices should definitely be explored. especially if sign up/renew for multiple seasons. but we're not talking about huge slashes.

a rebuild will be a money loser. that's why they should have planned better for a total rebuild. also, when the team was making $10's of millions in profits every year, they should have known that it would be somewhat cyclical.

my rationale to not lowering prices is that any significant discount lowers the perception of entertainment value. if the nhl is the biggest sports/entertainment ticket in the city, the price should reflect such.

on the flip side, a small decrease in ticket prices does not really materially affect the cost of a game ($5 per ticket discount is not much to the total cost of a game). the perception that the team is getting desperate about attendance would drown out a small spike in attendance.

bottom line: put up with the empty seats. stick to the plan. rebuild the right way. the team will go from red to black shortly. no need to panic.
- RealityChecker

Did someone say panic

I’m not sure what box scores you were looking at, Boeser did have low minutes in the first game, but played like 17 the other night. Gudbranson must be averaging 14 minutes a night. Stecher and Hutton are train wrecks, sure they’re young, but they are terrible at playing defense. I’ve don’t believe I’ve seen Dorsett play more than Horvat or Granlund.

In the last game, the most went to Horvat, Baertschi, Boeser and Granlund on offence, with Del Zotto and Hutton on defense.
- Makita

In their game against WPG I think Virtanen played 7 minutes, Stecher played under 16 and MDZ played 29 or something crazy

I just know that Dorsett and Sutter are leading the Canucks amongst forwards in even strength ice time. I may have been confused with them playing more overall with them playing more at even strength

In their game against WPG I think Virtanen played 7 minutes, Stecher played under 16 and MDZ played 29 or something crazy

I just know that Dorsett and Sutter are leading the Canucks amongst forwards in even strength ice time. I may have been confused with them playing more overall with them playing more at even strength
- Codes1087

is it too early to fire Green?

Sedin Sedin Granlund
MDZ Hutton
PP1

Baertschi - Burmistrov - Boeser
Stecher - Pouliot
PP2

Vanek - Horvat - Gagner practicing as extra/3rd PP.

#veteranmovement
- Codes1087

I’m confused, your top point producer last year and newly signed to an offensive type contract and he can’t crack the top 2 PP units? WOW!

In their game against WPG I think Virtanen played 7 minutes, Stecher played under 16 and MDZ played 29 or something crazy

I just know that Dorsett and Sutter are leading the Canucks amongst forwards in even strength ice time. I may have been confused with them playing more overall with them playing more at even strength
- Codes1087

It will take Green awhile to find balance amongst the lines with LE and Edler out...I'm sure Tanev is soon to follow.

I'm not saying we will be better, just hopefully the players can get a sense of each other before the line-shuffling starts. Maybe have Granlund back on the Sedin line and Give Vanek to Horvat. From what I've seen so far Sutter has been way more effective than Gagner so may give Sutter some decent LW-RW instead of plugs.

Let Gagner deal with the 4th line with Baerthchi which where they deserve to be right now.

You sure are optimistic this morning. we are picking 5th
- CanuckDon

is it too early to fire Green?
- CanuckDon

not at all. Take the entire year and experiment with different lines for all I care. But to continue playing Dorsett and Sutter with continuous failure would not be smart. If they give results, than great, but why give those specific players more ice time at 5v5 if we continue to lose

is it too early to fire Green?
- CanuckDon

Sedin Sedin Granlund
MDZ Hutton
PP1

Baertschi - Burmistrov - Boeser
Stecher - Pouliot
PP2

Vanek - Horvat - Gagner practicing as extra/3rd PP.

#veteranmovement
- Codes1087

Great idea here! Why play Bo on the powerplay at all, you know? I like what I see.
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