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onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Oct 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
do not lower ticket prices.

you put up with the poor attendance but don't discount the product.

no freaking giveaways either. papering the place is bad practice!

take the losses. build the right way and regrow the brand.

- RealityChecker

this and allow the true fans to get the seats in the lower bowl again , the place has been filled with to many cell phone staring wannabees for to long .
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Oct 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
not at all. Take the entire year and experiment with different lines for all I care. But to continue playing Dorsett and Sutter with continuous failure would not be smart. If they give results, than great, but why give those specific players more ice time at 5v5 if we continue to lose
- Codes1087


If Green is using Sutter and Dorsett as shut down guys, they will always see the most icetime 5on5. Others teams play their best player the most so Van counters that with Sutter and Dorsett.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
That's my perspective too and that's what I thought you meant... But the conversation was turning around to 'you can get fee seats no problem".

I think those fee corporate seats are one of the biggest problems at major sporting events, especially at Rogers. For the most part, those people are the ones killing the atmosphere in the building. They have no vested interest in the game and their behaviour demonstrates that. Most, not all, are distracted or disinterested.

The only time they show any sign of life is leaving early and getting to their car to avoid traffic after the game.

Do away with those lame corporate fans. Schmucks.

- bloatedmosquito

the move from the pacific coliseum to the new arena was a cultural as well as a physical shift.

from hockey family to corporate.

metaphor for the league in some respects.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
Great idea here! Why play Bo on the powerplay at all, you know? I like what I see.
#GreenJackAdams

- neem55


I should have probably added that these are the lines that Green is practicing with currently, and that this is in no way my idea lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 1:50 PM ET
this and allow the true fans to get the seats in the lower bowl again , the place has been filled with to many cell phone staring wannabees for to long .
- onesmallleap

Last few times I've been so unimpressed by the lack of passion. Just so quiet for a hockey game. I don't get it at all. In the 90's it was go home with a hangover and a hoarse throat from yelling and heckling. Not sure when we became so polite, but I'm not a fan.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
I should have probably added that these are the lines that Green is practicing with currently, and that this is in no way my idea lol
- Codes1087

That's why I put Green for Jack Adams instead of Codes for mayor
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
If Green is using Sutter and Dorsett as shut down guys, they will always see the most icetime 5on5. Others teams play their best player the most so Van counters that with Sutter and Dorsett.
- Kaynine


my issue, from an analytical standpoint, is that neither Dorsett or Sutter are either shot generating or shut suppression forwards. They create little in terms of offense or defensive over the history of the last X amount of years. To use players such as them as designated shut down players is not something I would have envisioned, but I guess there is a reason I am not a coach and Green is.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's why I put Green for Jack Adams instead of Codes for mayor
- neem55


Can I still be mayor though?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 1:54 PM ET
Can I still be mayor though?
- Codes1087

I don't know, what's your view on nacho cheese?
I think if your platform involves bringing the nacho hat to Royals games, you've got a shot.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
I don't know, what's your view on nacho cheese?
I think if your platform involves bringing the nacho hat at Royals games, you've got a shot.

- neem55



onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Oct 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
Last few times I've been so unimpressed by the lack of passion. Just so quiet for a hockey game. I don't get it at all. In the 90's it was go home with a hangover and a hoarse throat from yelling and heckling. Not sure when we became so polite, but I'm not a fan.
- neem55

i get to a few games every year that stand out for me , and i end up paying fair dollar for good seats. I go and i feel like i am disturbing those around me for cheering my team and jeering the competition , riding the zebras for bad calls. it almost like they should dim the lights in stands so the people worried about being seen cheering could hide in the dark
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
this and allow the true fans to get the seats in the lower bowl again , the place has been filled with to many cell phone staring wannabees for to long .
- onesmallleap

There does need to be a balance and lowering of prices though to get true fans to the lower bowl. Even CAL and EDM went through it the past ten years. You can't keep charging $310ea for 10th row lower bowl seats on the red line. They eventually had to drop prices to get asses in the seats like they should be doing in Van. It's the blue-collar types that will spend vast amounts on beer and pizza and such...but they can't do that if they can't get to the game. By the time a father of two wants to take his family to the game and sit in the lower bowl it could be a $1500 dollar night...ridiculous. Prices have to come down to realistic levels.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Oct 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
my issue, from an analytical standpoint, is that neither Dorsett or Sutter are either shot generating or shut suppression forwards. They create little in terms of offense or defensive over the history of the last X amount of years. To use players such as them as designated shut down players is not something I would have envisioned, but I guess there is a reason I am not a coach and Green is.
- Codes1087


No I agree with you. You would do a better job. What is it that a true fan sees that the coaching doesn’t? This is the exact same style of coaching that the last guy got fired for, it’s actually really comical. I was, and currently still am, a fan of a coaching change......but not to replace someone and have the new coach do the same things.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 2:00 PM ET
i get to a few games every year that stand out for me , and i end up paying fair dollar for good seats. I go and i feel like i am disturbing those around me for cheering my team and jeering the competition , riding the zebras for bad calls. it almost like they should dim the lights in stands so the people worried about being seen cheering could hide in the dark

- onesmallleap

too true
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 16 @ 2:01 PM ET
No I agree with you. You would do a better job. What is it that a true fan sees that the coaching doesn’t? This is the exact same style of coaching that the last guy got fired for, it’s actually really comical. I was, and currently still am, a fan of a coaching change......but not to replace someone and have the new coach do the same things.
- Kaynine


I guess there is a reason Green is a coach, and we are all here critiquing his actions lol. I don't really know the thought process behind Dorsett/Sutter being shutdown players. It worked for 1 game, and we all thought he was a genius, it hasn't worked since and now we all think he is an idiot lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 2:02 PM ET
There does need to be a balance and lowering of prices though to get true fans to the lower bowl. Even CAL and EDM went through it the past ten years. You can't keep charging $310ea for 10th row lower bowl seats on the red line. They eventually had to drop prices to get asses in the seats like they should be doing in Van. It's the blue-collar types that will spend vast amounts on beer and pizza and such...but they can't do that if they can't get to the game. By the time a father of two wants to take his family to the game and sit in the lower bowl it could be a $1500 dollar night...ridiculous. Prices have to come down to realistic levels.
- LordHumungous

Definitely. And I think they will, there's already less scalpers becasue they cant afford the risk. Prices will go down I think, just not for big teams.
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Oct 16 @ 2:03 PM ET
Sedin Sedin Granlund
MDZ Hutton
PP1

Baertschi - Burmistrov - Boeser
Stecher - Pouliot
PP2

Vanek - Horvat - Gagner practicing as extra/3rd PP.

#veteranmovement

- Codes1087


Great for the tank, not so much for the entertainment value.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 16 @ 2:06 PM ET
i get to a few games every year that stand out for me , and i end up paying fair dollar for good seats. I go and i feel like i am disturbing those around me for cheering my team and jeering the competition , riding the zebras for bad calls. it almost like they should dim the lights in stands so the people worried about being seen cheering could hide in the dark

- onesmallleap


My wife calls the lower bowl at Rogers 'The Valley of the Stalagmites'.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
i get to a few games every year that stand out for me , and i end up paying fair dollar for good seats. I go and i feel like i am disturbing those around me for cheering my team and jeering the competition , riding the zebras for bad calls. it almost like they should dim the lights in stands so the people worried about being seen cheering could hide in the dark

- onesmallleap


This sums up the Rogers Arena experience perfectly
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Oct 16 @ 2:08 PM ET
a few simple things to try and gain some momentum would be , go back to setting up a point shot on the pp , role the lines for PP's for a bit just send out guys and let them work for the advantage. rotate the goalies after loses , you lose , the other guy plays .

a message to the coaching staff less is more and KISS...
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
i get that.

lowering the ticket prices does not affect that though. when you can already get tickets for the price the team would theoretically lower them to, there would be no net change in the price of attending a game.

social entertainment is expensive in cities.

lowering ticket prices would not do anything except for the mentally gifted who are still buying their single game tickets through the team.

- RealityChecker


I think they'd do much better lowering concessions for the next few years. People will then get drunk enough they'll have fun regardless of the product and the rink will be full.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 16 @ 2:11 PM ET
a few simple things to try and gain some momentum would be , go back to setting up a point shot on the pp , role the lines for PP's for a bit just send out guys and let them work for the advantage. rotate the goalies after loses , you lose , the other guy plays .

a message to the coaching staff less is more and KISS...

- onesmallleap


All I want to see is them attacking the offensive zone with speed and patrolling the defensive zone with some aggression.

An opponent's fear needs to be present at both ends of the rink.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Oct 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
i get to a few games every year that stand out for me , and i end up paying fair dollar for good seats. I go and i feel like i am disturbing those around me for cheering my team and jeering the competition , riding the zebras for bad calls. it almost like they should dim the lights in stands so the people worried about being seen cheering could hide in the dark

- onesmallleap


So many lame ducks that dont want to cheer for some reason. Like why did you go to the game if you weren't gonna cheer?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
I think they'd do much better lowering concessions for the next few years. People will then get drunk enough they'll have fun regardless of the product and the rink will be full.
- golfingsince


I'd be interested to see how concession prices have affected the Atlanta Falcons' bottom line since they lowered their prices. Its ridiculous how cheap you can get things there

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
I think they'd do much better lowering concessions for the next few years. People will then get drunk enough they'll have fun regardless of the product and the rink will be full.
- golfingsince


That totally terrifies this organization. After all these years they still have a problem dealing with it. American franchises seem to handle it no problem. EPL too. Yet the canucks are baffled.

Then again I don't blame them. Vancouverites aren't known for their restraint and decorum.
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