You are talking exclusively about challenges, and ignoring the rules about offsides. The goal should not have counted. It should have been blown dead, as the player was clearly offside. The Avs didn't get screwed in the sense that the end result was exactly what it should have been for the plays that occurred. The linesman screwed the Blues, not blowing the clearly offside play dead, and then screwed the Avs as well, not following the rules correctly for offside challenges. Bad, but fair officiating.

The fact the challenge should not have overturned the goal does not mean the goal should have counted. In this situation, 2 wrongs did make a right. Pretending the Avs somehow came out worse because the linesman screwed both teams equally instead of just screwing the Blues is ridiculous.
- Antilles

I get what you are saying. I was just referring to the official challenge that happened with play stopped. They should be able to follow their rules and not make mistakes during that time, when there isn't players in the way/running into them/etc.

I agree with you though. The end result is what should have happened in the first place. It definitely didn't get there in the correct way though.

No, it never should have counted in the first place. They didn't call the rules correctly when not calling the obvious offsides, then also didn't cal the rules correctly during the challenge. The result was what it should have been in the first place, and complaining that they blew two calls making the game fair instead of just blowing one and favoring Avs would be a little ridiculous.
- Antilles

Rants goal 100% should have counted, infact that play shouldn't have even been reviewable. Read rule 78.7 regarding coaches challenges. Specifically Note 1.

Verbatim;

NOTE 1: Goals will only be reviewed for a potential “Off-side” infraction if: (a) the puck does not come out of the attacking zone again; or (b) all members of the attacking team do not clear the attacking zone again, between the time of the “Off-side” play and the time the goal is scored.

Avs got the shaft. Blues escape possibly a 5-4 loss. GG



edit: My last comment on a potential ending score is false. If it weren't allowed to be challenged the blues obviously wouldn't get a penalty. So at the very least, a 4-4 game and the Avs pick up a much needed point.

It should have been blown dead in the first place but it wasn't. The rules say you can only challenge the offsides coming into the zone. They looked at the play before he cleared the zone and then re-entered which they can't do. Plays get missed by officials all the time but you can't because you think it's fair. Doesn't matter if it was out of the zone for 2 seconds or 2 minutes.

The Avs got screwed on a goalie interference call last game after they already lost their challenge. They can't and didn't bend the rules allowing it to be challenged just because it's fair. You just have to stay consistent with the rules and and hope the bad calls against and in your favor even out over the course of the season.
- westonie

The bad calls against and in your favor evening out is exactly what happened here. A bad call, missing the offside, went in your favor. Then a bad call, overturning the goal on challenge, went in Blues favor.

Rants goal 100% should have counted, infact that play shouldn't have even been reviewable. Read rule 78.7 regarding coaches challenges. Specifically Note 1.

Verbatim;

NOTE 1: Goals will only be reviewed for a potential “Off-side” infraction if: (a) the puck does not come out of the attacking zone again; or (b) all members of the attacking team do not clear the attacking zone again, between the time of the “Off-side” play and the time the goal is scored.

Avs got the shaft. Blues escape possibly a 5-4 loss. GG



edit: My last comment on a potential ending score is false. If it weren't allowed to be challenged the blues obviously wouldn't get a penalty. So at the very least, a 4-4 game and the Avs pick up a much needed point.
- LlamaLord

Mistake 1: Not blowing the play dead immediately when Avs were off-sides.
Mistake 2: Overturning the goal via coaches challenge.

All your quote does is explain Mistake 2. That doesn't change the fact that if neither mistake is made, the score is still 4-3. Two mistakes, correct results.

Mistake 1: Not blowing the play dead immediately when Avs were off-sides.
Mistake 2: Overturning the goal via coaches challenge.

All your quote does is explain Mistake 2. That doesn't change the fact that if neither mistake is made, the score is still 4-3. Two mistakes, correct results.
- Antilles

See but the difference is that offsides and whatever play that should be an infraction go unnoticed countless times a game, even to our eye. But when Toronto (franks) up on a review, something that they can clearly repeat, and should be well versed on what should fly and what shouldn't is the bigger issue here. Forget the offsides... If the Avs didn't score, no harm no foul. But they did, and Toronto laid a colossal egg on the ensuing call.

Missed offsides call, meh, watch any game tonight and you will probably see at least one. But Toronto robbing a team of what more than likely would have been at least a point in the standings by not knowing their own (franking) rulebook is a much bigger problem, the Avs just so happen to be the ones to take the hit.

See but the difference is that offsides and whatever play that should be an infraction go unnoticed countless times a game, even to our eye. But when Toronto (franks) up on a review, something that they can clearly repeat, and should be well versed on what should fly and what shouldn't is the bigger issue here. Forget the offsides... If the Avs didn't score, no harm no foul. But they did, and Toronto laid a colossal egg on the ensuing call.

Missed offsides call, meh, watch any game tonight and you will probably see at least one. But Toronto robbing a team of what more than likely would have been at least a point in the standings by not knowing their own (franking) rulebook is a much bigger problem, the Avs just so happen to be the ones to take the hit.
- LlamaLord

The game would have been tied only because it was so offside that the Blues D stopped playing.

The goal was directly tied to the offside, even if by rule it shouldn't have been reviewable.