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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
aaahhhh who is his asst coach? i think he has been around and won just a bit. ruff decision for sure.....
- nyislsbossy

Ruff would be a downgrade.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

Oct 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
There is one BIG issue of the Rangers fire AV!!! Who is better than him to replace him? I count NOBODY!!!!! There is nobody out there better than AV to replace him not even just for some change.
- RangerFan1110




aaahhhhh...who is his asst coach? he has been around for a while and has a winning record. ruff decision for sure......
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Ruff would be a downgrade.
- Feds91Stammer


firing AV for ruff would be a nightmare

Id rather try Messier at this point
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
firing AV for ruff would be a nightmare

Id rather try Messier at this point

- mrn22

Blashill for AV and Holden
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

Oct 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
[quote=mrn22]firing AV for ruff would be a nightmare

Id rather try Messier at this point

i really think it's more than a coaching problem with the rangers. a bunch of players not playing up to where they should be...... feel free to name them the list is at least 5 long and really hurts
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:17 PM ET
[quote=mrn22]firing AV for ruff would be a nightmare

Id rather try Messier at this point

i really think it's more than a coaching problem with the rangers. a bunch of players not playing up to where they should be...... feel free to name them the list is at least 5 long and really hurts

- nyislsbossy

Meh. They just need small tweaks to the lineup imo. I would definitely look to put the Skjei Smith pairing back together.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:41 PM ET
I highly recommend not reading anything from Staples as he is a babbling moron.

EDM is currently the best team at 5v5 in the league right now. They are just extremely unlucky by having the 2nd worst 5v5 sh% in the league. MTL is the worst. I know people hate the idea of luck but random variance is a thing.

- Feds91Stammer


I do think luck is part of it but we still have player issues. Just look at the team out side of McDavid and Draisalt who on this team would you rely on to generate offense?
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
Rangers and Oilers issues seem more related to the GMs than the coaches.

Also, the Shatty situation is turning out a lot like the Yandle one isn't it?

I agree that Maurice should definitely be on the hot seat, he's been given a very good team (maybe minus goal tending), but they are 4-3-0 now so maybe they're climbing out of that early hole
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Meh. They just need small tweaks to the lineup imo. I would definitely look to put the Skjei Smith pairing back together.
- Feds91Stammer


thats why AV is so frustrating.. he takes pairs that work well together and shoves all that poop in a blender

I mean Ruff is probably to blame just as much for the pairings but still this staff is (frank)ed
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
Rangers and Oilers issues seem more related to the GMs than the coaches.

Also, the Shatty situation is turning out a lot like the Yandle one isn't it?

I agree that Maurice should definitely be on the hot seat, he's been given a very good team (maybe minus goal tending), but they are 4-3-0 now so maybe they're climbing out of that early hole

- mgriffen


I dont care what anyone says if Shattenkirk came begging your GM to play for them and would sign a 4 year deal he would be playing for you. people act like he got 7 years 8 mil.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Oct 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
I dont care what anyone says if Shattenkirk came begging your GM to play for them and would sign a 4 year deal he would be playing for you. people act like he got 7 years 8 mil.
- mrn22


Damn straight. I'll take a defender putting up 7 points in 10 games.

I think with most offensive defenseman you have to know their D isn't dominant. And frankly with how the rest of the Ranger D was built, that didn't really look like a big problem.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
I do think luck is part of it but we still have player issues. Just look at the team out side of McDavid and Draisalt who on this team would you rely on to generate offense?
- rathagor

Yamamoto, Nuge, Strome, Lucic, Caggiula
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 24 @ 1:10 PM ET
Damn straight. I'll take a defender putting up 7 points in 10 games.

I think with most offensive defenseman you have to know their D isn't dominant. And frankly with how the rest of the Ranger D was built, that didn't really look like a big problem.

- Queenie_5_hole


theres a lot of things wrong with the rangers right now. shattenkirk isnt one of them
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 1:13 PM ET
I dont care what anyone says if Shattenkirk came begging your GM to play for them and would sign a 4 year deal he would be playing for you. people act like he got 7 years 8 mil.
- mrn22

People love to poop on D men than score points for some reason. Yandle did fine with NYR and so is Shattenkirk. Just like Green is doing fine with DET. And none of these guys are as bad defensively as they are made out to be. In fact any defensive deficiencies these guys have are more than made up by their ability to complete zone exits with possession.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Oct 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yamamoto, Nuge, Strome, Lucic, Caggiula
- Feds91Stammer


So you would really expect a 18 point guy (Caggiula), 30 point guy (Strome) or a Rookie (Yamamoto) to carry a line to generate offense?

Lucic has never been that guy to generate offense himself he needs somebody else. Hence why he is only good on the PP when McDavid and Draisalt are there.

The only one of those that even makes a little sense is RNH, however i'm pretty sure it was Hall being the driver on the line with him and Eberle earlier in his career. So I have my doubts.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Oct 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
Rangers and Oilers issues seem more related to the GMs than the coaches.

Also, the Shatty situation is turning out a lot like the Yandle one isn't it?

I agree that Maurice should definitely be on the hot seat, he's been given a very good team (maybe minus goal tending), but they are 4-3-0 now so maybe they're climbing out of that early hole

- mgriffen


No, Yandle refused to shoot the puck. The closest he ever got to putting a puck on net for the Rangers was floating one about four feet wide for Fast to redirect into the goal. Shattenkirk is defensively challenged, but he does shoot.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 24 @ 2:31 PM ET

- LordHumungous


We must of got the mellowed out version. Now he just chews gum faster when he is upset.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Oct 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
It’s hilarious when a flyer fan comes on here and labels a player overrated when they have the most overrated player in the nhl what’s his name? I think his nickname is G
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
Why are all your hot seat picks coaches for teams that are bottom 5 in PDO?
- Feds91Stammer


PDO is pretty much what determines a coach's fate and level of respect unless their GM is smart enough to know better.

The one thing I'll say though is that I think some teams are likely to always suffer from "bad luck" in terms of PDO due to any number of reasons:

Lack of talent, bad goaltending, giving up higher quality shots, taking too many low quality shots, etc.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
Yeah definitely should fire the coach for the team with the top 5v5 CF% and xGF%. A new coach will definitely change their PDO so they are no longer 3rd worst in the league...
- Feds91Stammer


Rangers need Centres desperately!!! And a better back-up to share the work load in net.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Oct 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
PDO is pretty much what determines a coach's fate and level of respect unless their GM is smart enough to know better.

The one thing I'll say though is that I think some teams are likely to always suffer from "bad luck" in terms of PDO due to any number of reasons:

Lack of talent, bad goaltending, giving up higher quality shots, taking too many low quality shots, etc.

- Nucker101


agreed. canes are consistently laggards in pdo.

confirmation of lack of forward talent to me.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
I highly recommend not reading anything from Staples as he is a babbling moron.

EDM is currently the best team at 5v5 in the league right now. They are just extremely unlucky by having the 2nd worst 5v5 sh% in the league. MTL is the worst. I know people hate the idea of luck but random variance is a thing.

- Feds91Stammer


Score effect. Oilers fancies are very misleading. They are not out playing other teams and losing.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 24 @ 6:04 PM ET
Yamamoto, Nuge, Strome, Lucic, Caggiula
- Feds91Stammer


Rookie that is ok with McDavid but does nothing without. Needs sent down.
Good two way 2 C but needs some decent wingers to be able to do something. Can't drag around Luc and Strome forever.
Sucks.
Sucks
Sucks.

They have trade away all secondary scoring drivers. Hell even Drai sucks without McD. He scored 3 even strength goals 5 on 5 last year away from McD.

Thanks Chia.
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