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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
sabres have no real hitters up front on the top 3 lines

kane, bailey and gus sometimes


that's why IMO bailey needs to stick on top 3 line

- homiedclown



Girgensons-Eichel-Pominville
Pouliot-O’Reilly-Bailey
Kane-Reinhart-Okposo
Nolan-Josefson-Larsson
Moulson
Griffith

Until we can get some kids up here to replace Pouliot (trade for a pick at the deadline) and bump down Girgs

Next year, our 4th line could be
Nolan-Larsson-Girgensons
or switch Larsson & Girgensons
Either way,
could be a really tough line to play against who we should be able to use in our own zone
Esp if one of those guys can get good at faceoffs
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
I’m 50 up/down.

Might spend 20 more to get to 100 up/down

- dadeadhead


Do u use fire stick as well?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
Girgensons-Eichel-Pominville
Pouliot-O’Reilly-Bailey
Kane-Reinhart-Okposo
Nolan-Josefson-Larsson
Moulson
Griffith

Until we can get some kids up here to replace Pouliot (trade for a pick at the deadline) and bump down Girgs

Next year, our 4th line could be
Nolan-Larsson-Girgensons
or switch Larsson & Girgensons
Either way,
could be a really tough line to play against who we should be able to use in our own zone
Esp if one of those guys can get good at faceoffs

- jdfitz77


We’re those the lines at the morning skate today?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
Looks like I need to make a phone call to Time Warner / Spectrum

What speed internet do u run?

- jdfitz77

I have the fastest available


150 Mbps
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Oct 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
Year 4 since his draft. He’s also 22.

People keep treating him like he’s a 19 year old rookie

And what he said is bang on. A #2 puck should be the talent that makes his linemates better (he does marginally at wing)

He hasn’t

- sbroads24


Not sure anyone here is disputing the fact that Sam has not lived up to expectations so far, but saying that its not like he put up 25-30 points his first two years, he had a very good rookie year and followed that up with an increase in points.
I would expect a 2oa make those around him better, and he has not done that, not even close, cant just forget about the good times as well tho.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
I’m 50 up/down.

Might spend 20 more to get to 100 up/down

- dadeadhead

100 gets it done with no issues
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
Not sure anyone here is disputing the fact that Sam has not lived up to expectations so far, but saying that its not like he put up 25-30 points his first two years, he had a very good rookie year and followed that up with an increase in points.
I would expect a 2oa make those around him better, and he has not done that, not even close, cant just forget about the good times as well tho.

- Sabres1523

the big thing, he is on the 3rd line

as long as he is on the 3rd line, anything more than 35 points is so unrealistic

Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Oct 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
the big thing, he is on the 3rd line

as long as he is on the 3rd line, anything more than 35 points is so unrealistic

- homiedclown


He looks much better on ROR or Eichel's wing
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 25 @ 12:55 PM ET
Do u use fire stick as well?
- jdfitz77



I will be
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
the big thing, he is on the 3rd line

as long as he is on the 3rd line, anything more than 35 points is so unrealistic

- homiedclown



Seriously. I think people would be shocked if they saw the average output, line-by-line, 1-4. The average numbers for a second liner are shockingly low

I'm too lazy to dig for it, but it's out there
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
I’m not thrilled with how Sam has developed. I also feel this organization has mishandled him from the start.
- dadeadhead


Just saying it’s not the end for him
Hell...
Pominville got brought up
He wasn’t even in the NHL at this point
Didn’t become an NHL regular till 5.5 years after he was drafted

If Sam was picked #20 instead of #2,
would anyone be b!tching?

The thing is...
not all high draft picks become “stars”
And some develop more slowly than others
(I referenced Sedin as an example)

Would I like more from him?
Sure
I also don’t think we need to throw in the towel

And no one had Nylander or Ehlers ranked near #2, so comparing them pointless

Most of this isn’t directed specifically at u
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
We’re those the lines at the morning skate today?
- HonkFortheGoose


Just what I’d like to see

Girgensons was playing well,
so it’s conceivable we see something like this when he gets back
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
I will be
- dadeadhead

mobdro is a good free app to add for live streaming, not the greatest picture but quick load and gets you a lot of stuff
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
I have the fastest available


150 Mbps

- homiedclown



Thanks
Appreciate the info sir
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Not sure anyone here is disputing the fact that Sam has not lived up to expectations so far, but saying that its not like he put up 25-30 points his first two years, he had a very good rookie year and followed that up with an increase in points.
I would expect a 2oa make those around him better, and he has not done that, not even close, cant just forget about the good times as well tho.

- Sabres1523


I agree, he had a good 2nd rookie year. I thought he was a core guy. Just wondering what type of $ his agent is looking at . Bridge deal? I think the management wants him to distinguish himself, separate from eich.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
Seriously. I think people would be shocked if they saw the average output, line-by-line, 1-4. The average numbers for a second liner are shockingly low

I'm too lazy to dig for it, but it's out there

- jcragcrumple

I think 55 points to 60 is high end for second line

30 to 35 for 3rd line

15 for 4th line
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
I agree, he had a good 2nd rookie year. I thought he was a core guy. Just wondering what type of $ his agent is looking at . Bridge deal? I think the management wants him to distinguish himself, separate from eich.
- Boss34

when girgens and josefson come back, skunk will be on the second line putting up his typical points from last year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
the big thing, he is on the 3rd line

as long as he is on the 3rd line, anything more than 35 points is so unrealistic

- homiedclown


Move sam down to the 4th line, lower our expectations more.

Love to see him get that kick start from playing with kane and okposo?
skibum4451
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2009

Oct 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
Been hearing from Hamilton and others that many sabres do not start well or are unprepared for the game. Who are the players they are referring too.
Hamilton suggests to get them out of town. Who are the players ??????????????
Are they the core, new, old, or ????????
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Oct 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
I agree, he had a good 2nd rookie year. I thought he was a core guy. Just wondering what type of $ his agent is looking at . Bridge deal? I think the management wants him to distinguish himself, separate from eich.
- Boss34


Hes not off to a good start for any kind of decent contract, at this point it would be a hard sell for more than 2.5-3 per even that's a stretch, think he would get it just based on his possible potential.
He picked the worst year to have a slump, I don't think hes even close to the level Eichel is on, but maybe he saw Jack's deal and got all down, who knows.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 25 @ 1:09 PM ET
I have the fastest available


150 Mbps

- homiedclown



One of my biggest hesitations about cutting cable and going with Kodi (I have an Nvidia Shield, which is basically Fire Stick but runs on Android TV platform) is that you are the mercy of the feeders/streamers when it comes to live sports. I was thinking of doing an NHL.TV subscription with a VPN though to minimize that for Sabres games.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
I think 55 points to 60 is high end for second line

30 to 35 for 3rd line

15 for 4th line

- homiedclown


A 3rd line can put up points if there’s talent on it
Pens in the playoffs the last couple years as an example
Obviously Sam isn’t Kessel...
but even if it’s eventually something like
Nylander-Reinhart-Baptiste
I could see Sam getting 20-35-55pts (assuming he still gets PP1 time as well)
Then Nylander with something like 10-15goals & 20+ assists, & Baptiste netting in the ballpark of 15-15-30pts
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
mobdro is a good free app to add for live streaming, not the greatest picture but quick load and gets you a lot of stuff
- homiedclown



I bet you say that to all the boys.........
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Been hearing from Hamilton and others that many sabres do not start well or are unprepared for the game. Who are the players they are referring too.
Hamilton suggests to get them out of town. Who are the players ??????????????
Are they the core, new, old, or ????????

- skibum4451

Hamilton is not as connected to the sabres as he would lead on

the days of leaks ended when Murray got canned



true story

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
One of my biggest hesitations about cutting cable and going with Kodi (I have an Nvidia Shield, which is basically Fire Stick but runs on Android TV platform) is that you are the mercy of the feeders/streamers when it comes to live sports. I was thinking of doing an NHL.TV subscription with a VPN though to minimize that for Sabres games.
- buffalofan19


Do u live in WNY?
I heard that Sabres games are blacked out on NHL.tv if u live in the broadcast region
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