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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:10 AM ET
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Lundqvist on for #NYR practice. Boo Nieves b/w Grabner, Buchnevich. Nash-Zib-Mill, Kreid-Desh-Zucc, Vesey-Hay-Fast. Same D, Carey extra

- jimbro83


Was wondering if that would be the 4th line. Kreider with the midgets
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Was wondering if that would be the 4th line. Kreider with the midgets
- mdw7413


Maybe that's to make him look scarier to the opposition??
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
I got so much work done on my week sabatical, my boss thought I was doing steroids or something
- jimbro83


or some kikain
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:12 AM ET
Was wondering if that would be the 4th line. Kreider with the midgets
- mdw7413


Well, Kreider has been playing like a midget, so I guess it fits
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Maybe that's to make him look scarier to the opposition??
- Tonybere


I would change Zuke and Miller.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
Well, Kreider has been playing like a midget, so I guess it fits
- climbdenali12

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:15 AM ET
I got so much work done on my week sabatical, my boss thought I was doing steroids or something
- jimbro83

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:15 AM ET

- mdw7413



If the Rangers keep going down this path that could be me.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
If the Rangers keep going down this path that could be me.
- JRR1285


can i come?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:30 AM ET
can i come?
- mrn22



Misery loves company.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
Misery loves company.
- JRR1285

Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 25 @ 11:42 AM ET
Finally a cognitive breakdown or a state of the union ...
histronics aside ..A V cost us 2 games with his last minute line ups ? lil strong
dont need to relive the past as detailed as Jan BUT
I have found a common thread in our outcomes with certain players
we have traded for or tried to use and havent gotten the results
Theory: A V 's system demands 2 way responsibilities and man to man
type covers... most failures or guys who get cups of coffee must show zero aptitude in getting the system,costing terrible mistakes and T O's
K Yandle .. what we found out is he is a terrible defensemen
for all his Offensive type prowess he stunk in own zone and his + _ always reflected it ... he was a long shot to fix the PP .. band aid didnt work ...

Duke is not gonna a big name ..EVER didn t risk much

move along with todays bunch J T is there ever more of a fog type guy who trances on the ice makes T O's look like the play supposed to go on???
AGAIN for all his O type skills he is a mess as a 2 way constant.. he will fog out
lose his man , make the ill advised small % pass ..should i go on...

BiGGEST issue is leadership vacuum ..G man & STEP both had a lot of pop in locker room ... our soft spoken bioys better find a voice to kick ass & take names
Put that broadway hat away and get a f'in hard hat ..period....
A V is simply puttin the best product out to for now protect from blowouts
flawed is a strong word but we have no 2nd line center or maybe a real 1st liner
said it last yr ...Z bad would be better off with a top line center to feed off and take load off him... trying to use the centers he has & not the imposters ( Chytl-Craknell-) will wear them down for sure

Hayes is gonna be our Logan Couterier on Philly but he has 2 top centers in front of him...to be a shut down possession type center means your nor gonna be pushed to find O just take what given in transition or T O's ... he's trying to find O ad is sacrificing the other end...

Trade ... 1st we have Boo and he better not even go 1 boo hoo or his coffee
will be poured and back down to Conn.

Galenchuk is a simpler but at least a possible center .. but 2 way ..Oh my god
give em Holden for Galenchuk or prospect and salary help

I D k .. cant fathom them not protecting Oscar ot trading sum propsect /pick to keep him..something must have fallen thru as far as a center to come here
dont believe NYR brass would buy 18 yr olds to come & and play ... no way
especially not deemed franchise types (matthews or close knock offs )?

Gorts has hung A v out to dry ? gotta believe all A V is doin is workin with what is working even sumwhat .. when you see guys getting pulled and sat its caus e they are lost on the ice ... watch Buchny sumtimes he just drifts and always out of D zone (prematurely) never out of O zone ... he's one of the last out of the O zone when he goes deep behind goal line to work for puck...

not much on the beam with this team.....YET time is a deadly beat..Ariz loss could spell DOOM for the team OR be the poison needed to trade so called top assets to fill a gaping hole that NEVER should have been there in the 1st place

NHL centers have become like the quarterbacks of football
cant really COMPETE unless you have a top one ......
2 top centers..... you are the elite zone and stand a strong chance in the P O's

we NYR missed the boatin getting top centers the last yrs and still competed strong ..BUT looking back we trade for Nash and never found him the top center he deserved to play with??Richards was the only real attempt..
Now we have a team with talented wingers ? and no one to set them up or maintain defensive integrity and control ....

go around the lg ..our 2 to centers have to be the WORST TOP 2 IN THE LG...?

thanks gorts and slats for selling us a flawed bill of goods
I said it in summer I'm such a die hard fool i know not to invest in such a product
i canhelp myself but to watch in horror as we get hosed every nite up the middle which erodes any d integrity you can muster ...

WAKE UP AND MAKE THE MOVES TO GET THE STRENGHT WHERE IT HS TO BE
U P THE MIDDLE ....JT ..tradem if he + other guys will geta top man to start the
build back up but make moves ..status quo sucks ....L G R

- Dundee13

I have hit a cognitive state, yippee. Good summary of issues Dundee
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 25 @ 11:44 AM ET
https://www.barstoolsport...time-he-politely-declines

that is so (frank)ing good
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:44 AM ET
Misery loves company.
- JRR1285



One of the saviors. Teammate of Andersson's. Make it happen Gorts.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
Listing of PP units and lines from SNY:

The PP units the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Kevin Shattenkirk, JT Miller, Mika Zibanejad, Rick Nash, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh, Mats Zuccarello, Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Kevin Hayes

Boo Nieves is skating with the PK group. (Zipay)

The lines the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Rick Nash, Mika Zibanejad, JT Miller
Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, Kevin Hayes, Jesper Fast
Michael Grabner, Boo Nieves, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh-Brendan Smith
Brady Skjei-Nick Holden
Marc Staal-Kevin Shattenkirk

Free Buch. Move Vesey down, move Fast down and close one eye when looking at D pairings.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:45 AM ET
https://www.barstoolsport...time-he-politely-declines

that is so (frank)ing good

- mrn22

Idk what's better, Karlsson laughing or Brown being like, "Nope, you can have him."
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:46 AM ET
Listing of PP units and lines from SNY:

The PP units the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Kevin Shattenkirk, JT Miller, Mika Zibanejad, Rick Nash, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh, Mats Zuccarello, Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Kevin Hayes

Boo Nieves is skating with the PK group. (Zipay)

The lines the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Rick Nash, Mika Zibanejad, JT Miller
Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, Kevin Hayes, Jesper Fast
Michael Grabner, Boo Nieves, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh-Brendan Smith
Brady Skjei-Nick Holden
Marc Staal-Kevin Shattenkirk

Free Buch. Move Vesey down, move Fast down and close one eye when looking at D pairings.

- airjan23

While, he's been better recently, David Deshairnais being the 2nd line center is still a huge problem.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
https://www.barstoolsport...time-he-politely-declines

that is so (frank)ing good

- mrn22

Also, Dustin Brown is on pace to have big bounce back year. He and Kopitar alike.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 11:50 AM ET
Listing of PP units and lines from SNY:

The PP units the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Kevin Shattenkirk, JT Miller, Mika Zibanejad, Rick Nash, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh, Mats Zuccarello, Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Kevin Hayes

Boo Nieves is skating with the PK group. (Zipay)

The lines the Rangers are using today are (Cyrgalis):

Rick Nash, Mika Zibanejad, JT Miller
Chris Kreider, David Desharnais, Mats Zuccarello
Jimmy Vesey, Kevin Hayes, Jesper Fast
Michael Grabner, Boo Nieves, Pavel Buchnevich

Ryan McDonagh-Brendan Smith
Brady Skjei-Nick Holden
Marc Staal-Kevin Shattenkirk

Free Buch. Move Vesey down, move Fast down and close one eye when looking at D pairings.

- airjan23


Vesey is fine. Works his ass off every game. Some other players should take note.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
I have hit a cognitive state, yippee. Good summary of issues Dundee
- airjan23

Jan, if you prefer reading that is a bit less wordy...I have a copy of War and Peace you can borrow.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Jan, if you prefer reading that is a bit less wordy...I have a copy of War and Peace you can borrow.
- eichiefs9



I call bullpoop. Field & Stream, maybe.

...maybe.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
Jan, if you prefer reading that is a bit less wordy...I have a copy of War and Peace you can borrow.
- eichiefs9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqS1Ty79mOE
Gravy869
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.20.2017

Oct 25 @ 12:07 PM ET
The Team has quit on AV. We never had the bodies to play his wide open style and frankly the East doesn't play that way. It's more of a bump and grind hockey style. This team gets lost once the other team clogs up the neutral zone. This team lacks identity or any kind of spark we had in the past. Say what you want but this team needs Dorsett or Glass back. Michael Ferland would be a descent pickup. ADA has bounced around since his Draft year for a reason. Why was a kid with limited play in the past ( couldn't stay up with AZ) looked as the second coming of Leetch? I'm a huge Krieder fan but it's time to start benching some players. I'd say give the kids a chance but AV nails them to bench.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
The Team has quit on AV. We never had the bodies to play his wide open style and frankly the East doesn't play that way. It's more of a bump and grind hockey style. This team gets lost once the other team clogs up the neutral zone. This team lacks identity or any kind of spark we had in the past. Say what you want but this team needs Dorsett or Glass back. Michael Ferland would be a descent pickup. ADA has bounced around since his Draft year for a reason. Why was a kid with limited play in the past ( couldn't stay up with AZ) looked as the second coming of Leetch? I'm a huge Krieder fan but it's time to start benching some players. I'd say give the kids a chance but AV nails them to bench.
- Gravy869


it all depends on how u feel about benching players

AV benched Brendan Smith for a couple of games when he looked horrid and disinterested and everyone called for AV's head

if they benched Kreider, there would be a bunch of people calling for AV's head

the Rangers just need to start scoring goals and everything will settle down
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
it all depends on how u feel about benching players

AV benched Brendan Smith for a couple of games when he looked horrid and disinterested and everyone called for AV's head

if they benched Kreider, there would be a bunch of people calling for AV's head

the Rangers just need to start scoring goals and everything will settle down

- jimbro83



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