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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 28 @ 11:16 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Beat Leafs, 4-2; Phantoms and Prospect Updates
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Oct 28 @ 11:26 PM ET


That was a very solid game by the Flyers. I am impressed. Very impressed.

The defense played very well and didn't give up much against a very potent offense.

Losing Ghost SUCKS!!!

How that wasn't a penalty let alone a 5 minute major is beyond understanding!!!, if you didn't already understand that the officiating in this league is mickey mouse.
Brandon Smillie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.07.2017

Oct 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
That was a brutal hit by Komarov. Dirty.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 29 @ 12:23 AM ET
HNIC panel believe that Komorov will get a phone call and should be suspended.

Boy can’t but be happy to see Martel doing so well, maybe he could be a sleeper draft pick that turns into something special. Nice to see Lindblom starting to get his offensive game going.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Oct 29 @ 12:38 AM ET
the hit on Ghost was outrageous. Absolutely incredible that two officials can watch that and keep their arms down. While I know he's got a reputation, Gudas was tossed for a hit that was about a quarter of the viciousness.

When one of your top guys is now injured from something like that, I think the team is owed an explanation. This whole infallible officials crap is old. We as fans are owed an explanation.

Great game, but possibly at a huge cost.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 29 @ 12:53 AM ET
da fuq is a Wyatt Kalynuk
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 29 @ 2:15 AM ET
how was komorov not given a 5 and a game for that hit he should be suspended
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Oct 29 @ 5:08 AM ET
Provorov is already so responsible, what an amazing player. He can win more Norris trophies than Karlsson if he keeps progressing the way he has.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 29 @ 5:23 AM ET
how was komorov not given a 5 and a game for that hit he should be suspended
- 2Real


Come on, I thought you guys were the Broad Street Bullies! I figured Gostisbehere would've went to the bench, chugged a beer, let a out a big WOOOOOOOOOO like Ric Flair and then would have went and started punching Komarov's face in!!
On a serious note though, it was not a pretty hit and even though no penalty on the play, I figure he's going to get 2-5 game suspension. Hope the Ghost is not out too long.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 29 @ 7:13 AM ET
how was komorov not given a 5 and a game for that hit he should be suspended
- 2Real



If his nameplate had read "Gudas", you could guarantee 5 and a game and a week's vacation. But its Komarov, so everything's cool. Nothing to see here. Move along.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 29 @ 7:32 AM ET
If that was Gudas its a major and suspension.

I'm also annoyed their was no real reaponse from the Flyers ..
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Oct 29 @ 7:54 AM ET
That was a very solid game by the Flyers. I am impressed. Very impressed.

The defense played very well and didn't give up much against a very potent offense.

Losing Ghost SUCKS!!!

How that wasn't a penalty let alone a 5 minute major is beyond understanding!!!, if you didn't already understand that the officiating in this league is mickey mouse.

- ggunky


Officiating in all sports is getting worse and worse. These guy' s can miss calls if their assigned to watch only one player
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 7:59 AM ET
the hit on Ghost was outrageous. Absolutely incredible that two officials can watch that and keep their arms down. While I know he's got a reputation, Gudas was tossed for a hit that was about a quarter of the viciousness.

When one of your top guys is now injured from something like that, I think the team is owed an explanation. This whole infallible officials crap is old. We as fans are owed an explanation.

Great game, but possibly at a huge cost.

- FloHaake


What explanation is needed. They missed the call.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 29 @ 8:01 AM ET
Hope Komorov enjoys his suspension and that Ghost is ok soon.

Stuff like this just makes me want Morin in the lineup that much more.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 29 @ 8:29 AM ET
Couturier leads the entire NHL in even strength scoring over the last 31 games
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:34 AM ET
Hope Komorov enjoys his suspension and that Ghost is ok soon.

Stuff like this just makes me want Morin in the lineup that much more.

- BiggE


He'll probably get a game or two which won't do much as a deterrent. Gostisbehere's back was to him the entire time.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:37 AM ET
Hope Komorov enjoys his suspension and that Ghost is ok soon.

Stuff like this just makes me want Morin in the lineup that much more.

- BiggE


That and his physical play...I get the three rookie argument but at this point I think he could really help. Guess we will see.
Givemethedamcup
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.16.2017

Oct 29 @ 8:45 AM ET
Hahahaha!! Suck it, coots haters!!
Coots is the man and now none of you can say a (frank)ing bad things about the kid anymore.
Love coots πŸ˜πŸ’™
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 29 @ 8:55 AM ET
I missed the hit during the game. All I can say is holy crap.

The league is a joke if there isn't a suspension.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:03 AM ET
That and his physical play...I get the three rookie argument but at this point I think he could really help. Guess we will see.
- landros 2


I understand the game has changed quite a bit from the 70s and 80s and the day of the goon is gone and good riddance. However, there is still a physical element to the game and at least a small degree of physical intimidation. The Flyers best fighter currently happens to be one of their best players and he weighs all of 185 pounds. Gudas can somewhat be intimidating with his hitting, but, due to his reputation, he's a marked man by officials and will almost always end up in the box.

The Flyers don't need someone to immediately respond by jumping Komorov and picking up 2, 5 and a game. What they need is an intimidating 6'7 Dman who at some point later in the game can lay a hard, legal hit on one of the Leafs young stars, and, if another Leaf wants to come at him for it, our guy can beat the crap out of him.

Morin, besides the physical element, is also a pretty good player and there is no reason, especially if Ghost is injured, not to bring him up and get him into the lineup. Even if Ghost is ok for the next game, I'd still bring up Morin and get him in. Before last night's game, I would have wanted them to sit Manning. However, the goal aside, I actually thought Manning had a pretty solid game. The guy I would sit for a game if Ghost is good to go is Hagg. He's played ok of late, but not as well as he was at the start of the season. Spending a game or 2 in the Cote suite won't do him any harm.

So depending on the availability of Ghost, my pairings for the next game would be:

Provorov-Ghost
Manning-Gudas
Sanheim-Morin

or

Provorov-Gudas
Manning-Hagg
Sanheim-Morin

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
I missed the hit during the game. All I can say is holy crap.

The league is a joke if there isn't a suspension.


- MBFlyerfan


I think he will get a suspension, but probably no more than 2 games. The league however, is still a joke. There are 4 officials on the ice. Now I understand linesman can't call penalties, but they can certainly say to the refs, "hey that guy just got blatantly boarded from behind by Komorov, he needs to get 5 and a game". Christ, even the inept NFL officials confer all the time about calls. For all of the on ice officials to have missed that call is just outrageous.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 29 @ 9:07 AM ET
I missed the hit during the game. All I can say is holy crap.

The league is a joke if there isn't a suspension.


- MBFlyerfan



Literally, the league should use this hit in videos giving examples of what is an illegal hit..
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:12 AM ET
Literally, the league should use this hit in videos giving examples of what is an illegal hit..
- opeth_pa


It's just unconscionable that every on ice official blew that call. I can hear Ed Snider now, "typical (frank)ing Toronto refs!!"

3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Oct 29 @ 9:23 AM ET
"Typical Toronto Refs".... I believe that they do indeed exist. Watched game with Leaf fans last night. Bet both of them before game started Leafs would have more PP and sure enough it was an easy 40bucks.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 29 @ 9:24 AM ET
It's just unconscionable that every on ice official blew that call. I can hear Ed Snider now, "typical (frank)ing Toronto refs!!"
- BiggE


That is exactly what I was thinking. even the announcers were surprised.



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