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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:26 AM ET
I'm wondering if the sabres trade for shipachyov today
His contract is terminated if not traded by 12

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Why not wait for it to be terminated and just sign him without giving up any asset?
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Oct 30 @ 10:26 AM ET
Were you standing there listening in when they negotiated his contract? Because unless you were, you have no idea what he was promised.
- HonkFortheGoose


It is not unreasonable to assume that a guy who scored 76pts in 50g in the KHL was promised a roster spot on an expansion team.

I believe Antipin has a one way contract, and that was part of his deal to coming here was it not?
Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Oct 30 @ 10:29 AM ET
I think its a pretty low risk/high reward scenario for the sabres, if they can use it to pry someone else out of vegas also
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:31 AM ET
It is not unreasonable to assume that a guy who scored 76pts in 50g in the KHL was promised a roster spot on an expansion team.

I believe Antipin has a one way contract, and that was part of his deal to coming here was it not?

- ieetbred



It's an ELC he's eligible to be sent down without waivers.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
It is not unreasonable to assume that a guy who scored 76pts in 50g in the KHL was promised a roster spot on an expansion team.

I believe Antipin has a one way contract, and that was part of his deal to coming here was it not?

- ieetbred



For the 1000th time (not just for you)

A one way contract is all about what a player gets paid

A one way contract means a player would get paid the same in the AHL as he would in the NHL.

Nothing about where a player will play.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think its a pretty low risk/high reward scenario for the sabres, if they can use it to pry someone else out of vegas also
- Shadman306



I'd do it if Vegas would take Moulson...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
For the 1000th time (not just for you)

A one way contract is all about what a player gets paid

A one way contract means a player would get paid the same in the AHL as he would in the NHL.

Nothing about where a player will play.

- Stripes77


Correct.

There is some sort of strange clause in his contract though that says if he gets sent down to the AHL the contract can be terminated I think....

Can't find anything on it at the moment though.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
I'd do it if Vegas would take Moulson...
- Stripes77


what about Okposo? His contract might be worse than Moulson.... UGH..
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
Correct.

There is some sort of strange clause in his contract though that says if he gets sent down to the AHL the contract can be terminated I think....

Can't find anything on it at the moment though.

- HonkFortheGoose



Many of the KHL guys request that upon agreeing to come over.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
what about Okposo? His contract might be worse than Moulson.... UGH..
- gordong



After this year his NMC becomes a modified NTC.

Moved after July 1st 2018 the team aquiring him would only be on the hook for $23 mil over 5 years.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:46 AM ET
I'd do it if Vegas would take Moulson...
- Stripes77




Shipachyov has already been paid $2,522,177 thus far this season. Let them terminate the deal and try to pick him up for 2.5 mil for the rest of the season.

If not let him return to Mother Russia.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:51 AM ET
Shipachyov has already been paid $2,522,177 thus far this season. Let them terminate the deal and try to pick him up for 2.5 mil for the rest of the season.

If not let him return to Mother Russia.

- dadeadhead


I'm more or less interested in getting rid of Moulson's contract
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Oct 30 @ 10:53 AM ET
I'm more or less interested in getting rid of Moulson's contract
- Stripes77



I am curious what his attitude is around the team.

If it's anything like Dareus' situation, then ship him off to the lowest bidder.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
I am curious what his attitude is around the team.

If it's anything like Dareus' situation, then ship him off to the lowest bidder.

- thatsapickle



The biggest different between Dareus and Moulson is that Dareus still has all-star caliber talent.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
(frank) off
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:26 AM ET
Why not wait for it to be terminated and just sign him without giving up any asset?
- dadeadhead

Does that mean we can give him a different contract ?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:32 AM ET
Were you standing there listening in when they negotiated his contract? Because unless you were, you have no idea what he was promised.
- HonkFortheGoose


They signed him for 4.5m and you don’t think he was promised a spot lol

That rule (frank)ed everything up
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
Does that mean we can give him a different contract ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I'd assume a player with a terminated contract means he's free to sign elsewhere, unless it's just so he can go back to Russia.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:39 AM ET
what about Okposo? His contract might be worse than Moulson.... UGH..
- gordong


Agreed
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
14 mins till we find out if he gets moved to the Sabres lol
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 11:54 AM ET
14 mins till we find out if he gets moved to the Sabres lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Not happening.

It would have been leaked.

I haven't heard much about any rumors of a trade on him other than Ek...
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
Not happening.

It would have been leaked.

I haven't heard much about any rumors of a trade on him other than Ek...

- Stripes77


Not much more reliable than Gerbe.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 12:02 PM ET
Not much more reliable than Gerbe.
- Der Kaiser


I am going to attempt (key word) to ease up on Gerbe for the time being.

You all do such a wonderful job for me anyway!

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 30 @ 12:03 PM ET
it's noon... (frank) off again.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 12:04 PM ET
it's noon... (frank) off again.
- jochfr



What is the rule for players on the suspended list?

Did Vegas suspend him with the intent to terminate his contract?

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