Boeser has such a wicked wrist shot you would think that would be a no brainer.
- Makita

Old time hockey code. He's got to earn it. Can't put a kid in a position to succeed right away. That would spoil him. Got to break him down before he can be rebuilt into a solid two-way player.

Granlund's starting to grow on me. I like his versatility. When needed, you can sub him in on most lines. Seems to be able to play with most players on this roster.
- bloatedmosquito

totally agree. he's not going to be great but he's good enough especially on a team like the canucks.

...but like the vast majority of the lineup, if you can get a good price for him, i'd sell high. if not, i'd definitely re-sign him.

I’m trying hard to not get too excited for this yrs version of the Nucks, but it’s hard. The real differences I see the hard work and attack mentality. This was missing over the last few yrs. for the way we are playing, I don’t see a drop off.....not a big one anyway.

As for the game against Dallas, best 1-1 game I’ve watched in a long time. Good exciting hockey will put more people in the seats. We will see the lower bowl fill up the longer the Nucks can sustain this style of play.

totally agree. he's not going to be great but he's good enough especially on a team like the canucks.

...but like the vast majority of the lineup, if you can get a good price for him, i'd sell high. if not, i'd definitely re-sign him.
- RealityChecker

For me you just identified the real trick in all of this rebuild stuff. Through the rebuild who do you keep and who do you jettison? Real mine field in my opinion.

Are the loser talking heads eating crow yet about the Nux??!!

I’m trying hard to not get too excited for this yrs version of the Nucks, but it’s hard. The real differences I see the hard work and attack mentality. This was missing over the last few yrs. for the way we are playing, I don’t see a drop off.....not a big one anyway.

As for the game against Dallas, best 1-1 game I’ve watched in a long time. Good exciting hockey will put more people in the seats. We will see the lower bowl fill up the longer the Nucks can sustain this style of play.
- Kaynine

while i appreciate your enthusiasm and commend you for your rosy outlook, i most respectfully and demurely disagree.

unfortunately, my pessimistic and narrow minded, dour disposition doesn't see this play lasting through the long term. if it doesn't happen before, january and february will kill this team. same as it ever was.

For me you just identified the real trick in all of this rebuild stuff. Through the rebuild who do you keep and who do you jettison? Real mine field in my opinion.
- bloatedmosquito

Ya, that's always an interesting question. Draft picks are great, but they're all just gambles with varying odds. Trading for prospects is a bit different, though, as JB has shown a pretty good knack for that: Goldobin, Dahlen, Baer, Granlund...

I think on players like Granlund, who is still young and improving, or Baer even, you try to keep them around as they can grow still with the team. Unless, that is, you get an amazing offer for them. Players like Vanek, on the other hand, you hopefully flip at the TDL.

I’m trying hard to not get too excited for this yrs version of the Nucks, but it’s hard. The real differences I see the hard work and attack mentality. This was missing over the last few yrs. for the way we are playing, I don’t see a drop off.....not a big one anyway.

As for the game against Dallas, best 1-1 game I’ve watched in a long time. Good exciting hockey will put more people in the seats. We will see the lower bowl fill up the longer the Nucks can sustain this style of play.
- Kaynine

Youth and potential. It's hard to resist. That's why I don't believe the whole 'if you totally rebuild the fans leave' argument.

Yes some will leave but, like a hockey roster, sometimes a change in the old guard is a good thing.

OMG, two references on the same page!

For me you just identified the real trick in all of this rebuild stuff. Through the rebuild who do you keep and who do you jettison? Real mine field in my opinion.
- bloatedmosquito

absolutely!
it should all come back to what the over all strategy is concerning the re-build.
that's been one of my problems with this regime. there didn't seem to be a clear strategy to all their moves... or rather they tried to re-tool on the fly which some of us thought was bs all along.

Youth and potential. It's hard to resist. That's why I don't believe the whole 'if you totally rebuild the fans leave' argument.

Yes some will leave but, like a hockey roster, sometimes a change in the old guard is a good thing.
- bloatedmosquito

Fans want hope, even winning with a roster full of vets that everyone knows has no shot at the cup won't bring back enough fans. Canucks are off to a great start this year by their standards/expectations and are playing a more entertaining style yet there's still a lack of ticket sales and hockey buzz(teehee) in the city

Ya, that's always an interesting question. Draft picks are great, but they're all just gambles with varying odds. Trading for prospects is a bit different, though, as JB has shown a pretty good knack for that: Goldobin, Dahlen, Baer, Granlund...

I think on players like Granlund, who is still young and improving, or Baer even, you try to keep them around as they can grow still with the team. Unless, that is, you get an amazing offer for them. Players like Vanek, on the other hand, you hopefully flip at the TDL.
- NewYorkNuck

2 points i'd make:
1) goldobin and dahlen while seemingly full of promise cannot be put in the same category as baer and granlund;
2) the only players that i would be "married" to are those that i consider part of the new core. those players are very few so i don't mind trading most on the team.

i think this team is 3-5 years away so i envision a lot of players coming in and out in the next few seasons as it transitions.

Game Day!

It's a rookie showcase of sorts at Rogers Arena tonight as Nico Hischier and the New Jersey Devils take on Brock Boeser (presumably) and the Vancouver Canucks.

Here's the new blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...w-Jersey-Devils/194/88577

Fans want hope, even winning with a roster full of vets that everyone knows has no shot at the cup won't bring back enough fans. Canucks are off to a great start this year by their standards/expectations and are playing a more entertaining style yet there's still a lack of ticket sales and buzz.
- Nucker101

Of course there is. that is expected and good business plan for it. But it's fleeting and the end result is a new, energized, ticket purchasing crowd that fills your building. It takes time to build trust again.

It was no different when Burkie took over this team. Same circumstances. There is no mystery to this. It's rather typical in most business cycles.

Of course there is. that is expected and good business plan for it. But it's fleeting and the end result is a new, energized, ticket purchasing crowd that fills your building. It takes time to build trust again.

It was no different when Burkie took over this team. Same circumstances. There is no mystery to this. It's rather typical in most business cycles.
- bloatedmosquito

aq thought he could ride the wave and avoid the down cycle.

how'd that turn out big guy?

while i appreciate your enthusiasm and commend you for your rosy outlook, i most respectfully and demurely disagree.

unfortunately, my pessimistic and narrow minded, dour disposition doesn't see this play lasting through the long term. if it doesn't happen before, january and february will kill this team. same as it ever was.
- RealityChecker

Enjoy your ban ... disagreement fosters discontent, discontent fosters hurt feelings, hurt feelings lead to insults.

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Ps. I respectfully agree.

aq thought he could ride the wave and avoid the down cycle.

how'd that turn out big guy?
- RealityChecker

AQ, the mother of all fan boys.

Isn't he a restaurateur? Of all people he should know about the ups and downs of cash flow.

For me you just identified the real trick in all of this rebuild stuff. Through the rebuild who do you keep and who do you jettison? Real mine field in my opinion.
- bloatedmosquito

I think it is simpler than that. Horvat (and anyone younger) is the future. 🐻🧀, Granlund, Sutter, etc are all placeholders until the next “core” players come of age. When they do, the GM will work to surround them with a supporting cast of veterans and depth players. If a contending team is willing to give you a prospect and a second, or a first, you make those deals. Not all at once, but a couple players at a time and you fill their spots with the Rodin, Boucher et al.

AQ, the mother of all fan boys.

Isn't he a restaurateur? Of all people he should know about the ups and downs of cash flow.
- bloatedmosquito

i think his business card reads:
restaurateur, developer, bluberry farmer, hockey team builder.

****totally unverified gossip**** i've heard through the downtown grapevine that the construction/building business was severely leveraged about 5-6 years ago. they needed the money from the team to cover losses in construction. that was a major part in his rebuilding view.****

i think his business card reads:
restaurateur, developer, bluberry farmer, hockey team builder.

****totally unverified gossip**** i've heard through the downtown grapevine that the construction/building business was severely leveraged about 5-6 years ago. they needed the money from the team to cover losses in construction. that was a major part in his rebuilding view.****
- RealityChecker

Well that's nuts.

If that's the case he's (frank)ed himself because if the team is tied so directly to the development deals then how could he sell the team independent of Roger's or the surrounding attached condominiums if he had to cover his losses (if the losses are big enough)?

I can't see him selling off all of his other interests just to keep the canucks. I would imagine the canucks would be the first thing to go if he's taking on too much personal debt.

Fans want hope, even winning with a roster full of vets that everyone knows has no shot at the cup won't bring back enough fans. Canucks are off to a great start this year by their standards/expectations and are playing a more entertaining style yet there's still a lack of ticket sales and hockey buzz(teehee) in the city
- Nucker101

Thanks!