Demko named AHL goalie of the month


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- Nucker101

Is aiming for even keeled acceptable?

with more and more players coming into the league at a younger age, i would imagine that their peaks would skew downward? probably not much but i could see the peak range move slightly lower.

interesting point though is how the nhl is evolving. in the last 20 years or so, it seemed that with training changes, medical advancements etc., more players were playing to an older age.

however, with the league skewing younger and faster, i think this trend is reversing and the average retirement age will come back down a bit.

#evolution
- RealityChecker

All of these peak statistic trends tend to be in regards to point production.

Tanev never produces points, he's a mobile defencive defencemen. His points peak will never be a factor because he isn't a point producer.
Defensively, he's been impeccable for years, therefore even if he pals in two years offensively, hell still be playing defence at an elite level into his mid 30's.

Like a tryamkin he should only be traded for a McDavid(25 percent retained) or Dre (50 percent retained). That's his value, set by the hall for Larson trade, anything less is larceny.

He is as valuable if not more valuable to this team then our potential jack Adams winning HOF coach.

Eh, not my shtick either, but some people were wondering so thought I'd find something for the math nerds.

(I do think it's useful at times, just another tool in the toolbox.)
- NewYorkNuck

All of these peak statistic trends tend to be in regards to point production.

Tanev never produces points, he's a mobile defencive defencemen. His points peak will never be a factor because he isn't a point producer.
Defensively, he's been impeccable for years, therefore even if he pals in two years offensively, hell still be playing defence at an elite level into his mid 30's.

Like tryamkin he should only be traded for McDavid(25 percent retained) or Dre (50 percent retained). That's his value.

He is as valuable if not more valuable to this team then our potential jack Adams winning HOF coach.
- Pres.cup

that take is so hot, you're breathing fire.

I'm not saying he is.

I'm still getting over some people's description of his play. His game never screamed difference maker to me but if you are a top level defensive defenseman in the league I would think that your skill level and play would be noticeable above and beyond deep statistical analysis.

To me, the folks calling him the best are the ones doing the subtle trolling. Statistically yes, Tanev has the great numbers to make an argument but his overall influence on the game is ho-hum IMO.
- bloatedmosquito

If you have a chance to watch the game tonight, watch closely how unbelievably calm Tanev is at chasing dumped pucks back into his zone with a fore-checker barreling down on him. 95% of the time he retrieves the puck, makes a smart play whether its a tight pass to his winger on the boards or chipping it out to center when he has no other option. As a defender, these are extremely difficult plays to make, yet he makes it look easy. Another thing he's great at is coming up with the puck on the boards, especially when he's killing penalties or in trouble down low. If he doesn't have time to wire it out, he'll freeze the puck on the boards or take the hit to make a short pass to someone that has a better chance of clearing it out. I don't know if there are stats to measure these things, or if they'd just be called intangibles.

that take is so hot, you're breathing fire.
- RealityChecker

I'm on fire!

Hello people, whaz up?


If Boeser is in, Megenta is out? Are they gonna sneak Rodin in some where?

i actually like watching his game. he takes/absorbs more punishment than i would like but the subtle things like a clean first pass or not panicking may not be difference makers when looking at them individually. but, when you add those subtle things up in a game; they are absolutely difference makers.

he's the type of dman that i'd love to be on the ice with. you know you can just worry about your own sh!t b/c he's usually on lock down.
- RealityChecker

I got to make a troll statement or I'll burst...

Any NHL player under 30 who is the best at the position he plays should command a respectable return on the trade market. I believe the going rate for any top tier player is generally a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player.

Is that what people were expecting when his name was tossed back and forth on trade lists? I recall most proposals on here involved a 2nd and...

That wouldn't be a very good return on a top tier player of tanev's stature.

I got to make a troll statement or I'll burst...

Any NHL player under 30 who is the best at the position he plays should command a respectable return on the trade market. I believe the going rate for any top tier player is generally a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player.

Is that what people were expecting when his name was tossed back and forth on trade lists? I recall most proposals on here involved a 2nd and...

That wouldn't be a very good return on a top tier player of tanev's stature.
- bloatedmosquito

There's another thread for that........oh wait.

I got to make a troll statement or I'll burst...

Any NHL player under 30 who is the best at the position he plays should command a respectable return on the trade market. I believe the going rate for any top tier player is generally a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player.

Is that what people were expecting when his name was tossed back and forth on trade lists? I recall most proposals on here involved a 2nd and...

That wouldn't be a very good return on a top tier player of tanev's stature.
- bloatedmosquito

No one thinks he's the best at the position he plays.
He's not the best Defenseman, just really good at one aspect of playing D.

like a defensive forward.

He is basically the Derik Dorsett of D.

I got to make a troll statement or I'll burst...

Any NHL player under 30 who is the best at the position he plays should command a respectable return on the trade market. I believe the going rate for any top tier player is generally a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player.

Is that what people were expecting when his name was tossed back and forth on trade lists? I recall most proposals on here involved a 2nd and...

That wouldn't be a very good return on a top tier player of tanev's stature.
- bloatedmosquito

why are you concerned about that and why are you asking me?

i guess it's b/c you think that the "narrative" has changed.

it hasn't. you're just talking to different people from among the fan base.

how come there is a selke award for forwards, but not defenseman.

there should be a defensive defenseman award.
i'd call it the lidstrom.

No one thinks he's the best at the position he plays.
He's not the best Defenseman, just really good at one aspect of playing D.

like a defensive forward.

He is basically the Derik Dorsett of D.
- dbot

the ability to play defense is just one aspect of playing d.

the ability to play defense is just one aspect of playing d.
- RealityChecker

yes.

there are Dmen that excel at different aspects of the position.

how come there is a selke award for forwards, but not defenseman.

there should be a defensive defenseman award.
i'd call it the lidstrom.
- dbot

lidstrom was so multidimensional. he was regularly a 50 pt+ dman.

i agree that there should be a defensive dman award but to name it after lidstrom diminishes lidstrom's career imo.

how come there is a selke award for forwards, but not defenseman.

there should be a defensive defenseman award.
i'd call it the lidstrom.
- dbot

If Frank Selke was a defenseman I'm sure the award would be for defensemen.

lidstrom was so multidimensional. he was regularly a 50 pt+ dman.

i agree that there should be a defensive dman award but to name it after lidstrom diminishes lidstrom's career imo.
- RealityChecker

Yeah, name it the Snepts.

yes.

there are Dmen that excel at different aspects of the position.
- dbot

but to say playing d is just one aspect of it so ludicrous.

it's the freaking foundation of the position. it is not like a defensive forward. it would be the equivalent of an offensive forward.

and derek dorsett? really?

Heres to a win tonight and Sat. but I don't expect it to happen. I hope I don't get banned for being negative.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Is that a thing now?

Is that a thing now?
- VANTEL

I don't think you have to worry about it you're always positive.

but to say playing d is just one aspect of it so ludicrous.

it's the freaking foundation of the position. it is not like a defensive forward. it would be the equivalent of an offensive forward.

and derek dorsett? really?
- RealityChecker

I said that Tanev is really good at one aspect of his position.
I don't know what's so ludicrous about that.

Sure, it's like an offensive forward if you want.
Those exist too.

I'm not sure what your point is tbh.

If you don't understand the other worldly abilities of DD, well...you're too far gone for me to help you on that one.

I don't think you have to worry about it you're always positive.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I've been told as much

I said that Tanev is really good at one aspect of his position.
I don't know what's so ludicrous about that.

Sure, it's like an offensive forward if you want.
Those exist too.

I'm not sure what your point is tbh.

If you don't understand the other worldly abilities of DD, well...you're too far gone for me to help you on that one.
- dbot

right on!

the new hockeybuzz! faaaaaantastic!

right on!

the new hockeybuzz! faaaaaantastic!
- RealityChecker

oh lordy.

oh lordy.


- dbot

exactly.